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Considering that current projections are a 4 degree increase by 2050, and we're in 2015 almost 2016, and there is absolutely no one trying to seriously do anything to even begin curbing greenhouse gasses, much less preparing for the potential ecological and environmental changes that we are already seeing evidence of occurring, including the rapid increases in oceanic temperatures, even a slow change will seem sudden and dramatic by the time anyone gives a shit about doing anything about it.

I mean we would need to be building up the northern regions to make them habitable right now, including putting away excess resources, shifting to nuclear power, setting up desalinization plants, etc. so that we could move literally tens of millions of citizens there when the shit hits the fan.

So GOOD LUCK!
 
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Global warming would turn the taiga permafrost into the richest farmland in history...

...and it will render the middle east as uninhabitable as the sahara.

So yeah, switch to those 4mile/gallon H3's till that happens, bros.
 
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khorum_sl said:
Global warming would turn the taiga permafrost into the richest farmland in history...
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No, it wouldn't. It would turn it from permafrost to bog filled marginal terrain that would be awful for trying to grow crops in.

taiga - National Geographic Education

Climate change puts taigas in danger in different ways. Warming climate contributes to a partial thawing of the permafrost. Since this water has no place to drain, more area of the taiga is taken over by muskegs. Few trees take root.
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The rocky terrain of the northern climes, and the exceedingly thin top soil simply is not amenable to intensive crop growing.

As for a_skeleton_03, remember he's a moron who literally cannot engage in an honest discussion.
 
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Says the guy who can't understand the difference between colonizing a new planet and building habitats for safety on our own planets.
 
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a_skeleton_03_sl said:
Says the guy who can't understand the difference between colonizing a new planet and building habitats for safety on our own planets.
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[citation required]

The point of getting feet on a different planet is to ensure the species can survive terminal conditions on planet Earth.

No one expects colonization of a place like Mars to lead to a complete terraforming of that planet for generations.

Further, the most important aspect of space exploration at this point is simply to harvest large asteroids for more resources we have limited supplies of here on Earth.

But this entire digression is just a massive non sequitor, because I wasn't the person who brought up colonizing other planets in this debate in the first place.

So yeah. a_skeleton_03 gonna shit up the thread with off topic tangents.

Here's the first, and only, real reference to living on Mars in this discussion

khalid_sl said:
We have enough technology to probably survive indefinitely on Mars if we could ship things there. We could ship dirt to northern areas for example, we could build huge greenhouses, etc. We aren't going to go extinct. Well, outside of nuclear war or a huge ass meteor strike.
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Once again a_skeleton_03 is projecting other people's words into my mouth.

Because he is literally a retard.
 
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Khalid's good people. Wrong in that post, but no one can be right all the time.

Except me. And even then, I failed my own home state in the Second Battle of Southern Aggression.
 
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pharmakos_sl said:
guys, i have the solution

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For fuck's sake, at least do a proper Space Balls reference.
 
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There is something that is not very clear to me. I understand that if we don't curb global warming, what we farm, gather and hunt to eat today will not work or even exist in tomorrow's warmer Earth. I understand that melted ice caps in tomorrow's warmer Earth would put today's New York under water but... in the same way I am pretty sure the water level of the oceans will not rise faster than it takes to build a levy around New York, I am a bit perplexed that you make it sound like there is no possible changes in what we farm, gather and hunt that could accommodate for a warmer climate even after catastrophic events like the death of most flowering plants because of the death of bees. Mushrooms? Algae? Insects?
 
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Szlia_sl said:
There is something that is not very clear to me. I understand that if we don't curb global warming, what we farm, gather and hunt to eat today will not work or even exist in tomorrow's warmer Earth. I understand that melted ice caps in tomorrow's warmer Earth would put today's New York under water but... in the same way I am pretty sure the water level of the oceans will not rise faster than it takes to build a levy around New York, I am a bit perplexed that you make it sound like there is no possible changes in what we farm, gather and hunt that could accommodate for a warmer climate even after catastrophic events like the death of most flowering plants because of the death of bees. Mushrooms? Algae? Insects?
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The concern is that the changes would be so catastrophic that we would be likely to see a collapse of civilization. Mad Max type shit, with a huge fall in human population. And if humanity was reduced to a few scattered city states in the extreme Northern and Southern parts of the world, the continued survival of the human race could well become pretty precarious.

I think there's a lot of bullshit fear mongering about climate change out there. We aren't going to wipe out life on the planet entirely with runaway climate change. But we might wipe out life as we currently know it or at least a significant chunk of it, and take the better part of our civilization with it. We obviously shouldn't let it get to that point. Like your New York example, at what point does it get easier to simply avoid climate change than it is to continually build levies around all of the world's major cities?
 
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