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I'd put my $ on OhSeven being your 3rd.
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Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
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I'd put my $ on OhSeven being your 3rd.
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Damnitt, I just came back to type something nice and
Screamfeeder
is already engaging in fuckery and stuffing my foot in my mouth.
Anyways & first off
Screamfeeder
- you're right about reports. That's wasn't you.
As far as the rest of it goes...I think you're just explaining the same thing I said a different way...and with evidence. The point I was trying to make with the long/lost post I was typing was that strict adherence to the rules is ideal because everyone is aware of them and on the same page, but occurrences of judgement calls are just a shitty part of reality because humans are creative and constantly test the rules. You are on the boundary line often and I think the fact that there wasn't a unanimous decision in either direction is proof that the system is working? Yea, part of the reason you're on the boundary is because you're a vocal political minority on this specific place of the interwebs, but even your biggest....uh....."critics" make it a point to try to set that aside and explain their logic in a vote.
The other part of the reason is just you, man. That's fine....I think it's entertaining and I honestly enjoy reading your stuff. Everyone in your camp is just bubbling with vitriol, at least you make it fun & witty.
But a split decision on a review of a judgement call isn't a bad thing, it's a good thing and it happened at the right instance (a drama magnet) and it had the right outcome (we found "the line". Barely, imo). I think all of us are the same person we were 6 months ago as well, so hopefully that 3/2 split is representative of the people that cast votes in the mod elections.
One last thing I've really got to say is that I don't have any issue with you dumping on LLR, but I'm still behind him on this one. I was trying not to come right out and say it before because it sounds like I'm kissing ass, but I couldn't care less and would call it a fucking blessing to get fired. We weren't clocked in and he wanted that topic resolved asap, so you were part of the quick fix until we could weigh in. The flurry after that is on you.
Edit: More importantly, I wanted to express that support for LLR because I see him as typically objective and successfully staying neutral. This one doesn't contradict that because it was for two legitimate reasons that had nothing to do with bias.
Brando is just a special instance...
Screamfeeder
is already engaging in fuckery and stuffing my foot in my mouth.Uh, I don't think ending it was the objective. It was more strict enforcement if people were going to fuck around and see how close they could get without getting slapped.
Anyways & first off
Screamfeeder
- you're right about reports. That's wasn't you.As far as the rest of it goes...I think you're just explaining the same thing I said a different way...and with evidence. The point I was trying to make with the long/lost post I was typing was that strict adherence to the rules is ideal because everyone is aware of them and on the same page, but occurrences of judgement calls are just a shitty part of reality because humans are creative and constantly test the rules. You are on the boundary line often and I think the fact that there wasn't a unanimous decision in either direction is proof that the system is working? Yea, part of the reason you're on the boundary is because you're a vocal political minority on this specific place of the interwebs, but even your biggest....uh....."critics" make it a point to try to set that aside and explain their logic in a vote.
The other part of the reason is just you, man. That's fine....I think it's entertaining and I honestly enjoy reading your stuff. Everyone in your camp is just bubbling with vitriol, at least you make it fun & witty.
But a split decision on a review of a judgement call isn't a bad thing, it's a good thing and it happened at the right instance (a drama magnet) and it had the right outcome (we found "the line". Barely, imo). I think all of us are the same person we were 6 months ago as well, so hopefully that 3/2 split is representative of the people that cast votes in the mod elections.
One last thing I've really got to say is that I don't have any issue with you dumping on LLR, but I'm still behind him on this one. I was trying not to come right out and say it before because it sounds like I'm kissing ass, but I couldn't care less and would call it a fucking blessing to get fired. We weren't clocked in and he wanted that topic resolved asap, so you were part of the quick fix until we could weigh in. The flurry after that is on you.
Edit: More importantly, I wanted to express that support for LLR because I see him as typically objective and successfully staying neutral. This one doesn't contradict that because it was for two legitimate reasons that had nothing to do with bias.
Brando is just a special instance...
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Even Brando makes me hate him with stupid shit he says. And I'm fairly biased in my own right and people know it. That says a lot about him. I think Scream is a far better poster about things. As you said he stirs the pot but I think in a good way. He also doesn't let go of some things, but neither do other people (parachuting into every fucking thread on the forum any chance they get with SJW agenda conspiracy bullshit anyone?).
But I am glad Scream spoke up about the whole thing that started this off, because sure, it's free speech but it's still pretty fucked up nonetheless. I'd be hard pressed to believe that the die-hard lefties on this forum (can't speak for the insane left, or right in the real world) would say/think/want the same thing about someone and suggest someone take a bullet as the only viable solution to their opinions that they disagree with. It's more fun to keep them around for the stupid drama anyway.
But I am glad Scream spoke up about the whole thing that started this off, because sure, it's free speech but it's still pretty fucked up nonetheless. I'd be hard pressed to believe that the die-hard lefties on this forum (can't speak for the insane left, or right in the real world) would say/think/want the same thing about someone and suggest someone take a bullet as the only viable solution to their opinions that they disagree with. It's more fun to keep them around for the stupid drama anyway.
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I think Brando is a lost cause, he thinks the board is just a far right hate group nowadays. I tried engaging him in PMs a while back when he went on a reporting spree. He couldn't wrap his head around the idea that I would defend others' ability to say things the he, and even I, thought were reprehensible.
Scream seems much more reasonable to me, he just seems to push things a bit too far at times.
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"The place I disagree with is a disgrace and should be eliminated".
Can't quite break from that Hollywood, dogmatic outlook can you? Did you help write Sacha Baron Cohen's free speech for me but not for thee speech? The only disgrace here is this post, and you're lowest common denominator abandonment of the ideals you used to support just because the tenor of them have turned against you.
I'm glad you're no longer banned, that's why I've been reading through your garbage btw, to see if it was unfair. Because I still believe in you being able to speak your mind, even if you don't allow the same courtesy for others. Catch you when you come back!
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Lithose
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Brando...I think the election day post genuinely broke him. Scream is much more reasonable. The way Scream trolls is not really to defend a point to idiocy, but rather not defend it at all once it becomes hopeless and instead focus on criticism to try and get you to bite on another train of thought. Its essentially the Fabian strategy of logic. Its annoying, but it still requires a cogent argument. Brando though, he will follow a point to absolute absurdity even when he's clearly wrong. Its actually pretty fascinating to watch.
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As usual, you have no clue what you are talking about Lithose.
My statement was about sunieg removing my name from as the creator of that thread because certain CONSERVATIVE POSTERS LIKE YOU COULDN'T READ IT WITH ME IGNORED. Do you get that? Conservatives were butthurt that I was ignored and they couldn't read a thread I created, so the admin removed me from it in order to appease a small handful of CONSERVATIVE POSTERS LIKE YOU and take a clapback at me.
So let that sink in for a bit you fucking moron. It's litterally your exact argument made manifest, but your too much of a coward to acknowledge that. It's always having to hand walk you through shit isn't it? You have about a dozen examples of me explicitly saying "no more word filter" and "everyone should be able to say what they want within legal means" and here comes Professor Dumbfuck Lithose ignoring all of that in order to just make up some argument no one is having.
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Screamfeeder
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And yet here I am, defending a point that you were backwards on...How many posts before you chime in with "Scream never makes a point! Uhg!"
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Yeah, Scream was fine bringing up the concern. The issue came down to him sensing an advantage and pressing it way too far given its sensitive nature. When the Admins told him it was being reviewed, he had won--no need to salt Carthage to try and drive his point home.
And yes, I agree with you. As much shit as I give
Teekey
and
Screamfeeder
, I like them posting. I especially like
Xequecal
posting, because he's very reasonable even if I think he's wrong on a lot of issues. He handles all the shit that thread gives him and still comports himself well. I know its difficult to be in the minority but I wish other leftist posters would post, too. Its a great way to get citations from the other side of the fence and understand what that side is thinking. Its why I find this new censorship craze so frustrating, it really cuts off a lot of avenues to communicate and see the other side not just post their views but DEFEND them--which is when people really show you the evidence behind what they believe (Which is the best way to start to dig deep and understand how to counter those arguments). But it all starts with discussion and that's getting harder to find.- 1
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Ive interacted with him some and I dunno if he's simply unreachable, but I did try to explain that a lot of what goes on here amounts to kayfabe, overacting for the show of it and that people are much more chill like in discord/playing wow together and that most of them are pretty decent people.
He was pretty skeptical though.
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I have never ignored anyone on this forum, ever. Nor have I reported anyone for anything other than porn in the NSFW thread. So this was never an issue for me.
But this is a perfect opportunity to illustrate your mind set. Here the deluge of posts in this thread talking about how bad the political thread was due to the latest incident. Suin is posting in the other thread about how he regrets not just banning people who "are the problem". And then you post here about how the thread is a mistake.
When I call you on it, you immediately change contexts to a point that had a total of TWO posts (Compared to half a dozen) before this post, and somehow I'm the asshole for assuming what you were discussing directly prior is still your argument. Hah. No scream.
Let THAT sink in, your inability to account for ALL of what you say and rather argue like some fuck stick on the street corner playing a three cup game where people have to try and guess which thread from your tangled yarn ball of logic you actually believe is the pertinent one. Because that shit isn't going to be me, I'm going to respond to the broadest theme in your retard shot gun, and if you don't like it--you can actually argue a point rather than throwing feces at a wall.
Yohodj
Sorry to page you in here but I want to keep my own stuff out of your thread.
You posted in my Ban appeal Thread that...and I quote manually (since I don't have the ability to direct link quotes thanks to LLR and some guy named Denariameran or something are chickenshit, Nazi FuckBois)...
I would agree with you.
But isn't exactly the same as what was actually said. Let me repost the multiple posts in question...
This is khorum asking "Can we fix this without killing people like this?" and then he answers his own question by saying "There is no fixing it without excising the cancer." [meaning a bullet to the head as he stated literally one line above the last one].
I responded to khorum with...
To which Khorums response was...
I then responded yet again with...
To which khorum responded with...
You have a single instance of khorum saying two members of the forum can only be fixed by being shot in the head. He then adds my name to that list and closes out with "Be Dead" The "Be Dead" is the only instance that comes close to your "Die in a Fire" comparison, but when taken in context with his previous posts, it's hard to make that argument. This wasn't a "Go Die in a Fire" situation. It was a "The Only way to Fix this is Bullets to these two peoples head" and then two more instances of him doubling down on it toward myself.
This was a call to political violence and is being brushed aside as "edgelords being edgelords" and is frankly disturbing that both the Owner, Moderators and numerous posters here simply allowed it to happen with ZERO repercussions other than a "stop it bro" while the person who pointed it out is now silenced for what I can only assume is the crime of..."causing a disturbance".
There is an obvious difference here between what you stated, and what was actually said. If you disagree, I would love to know why and your reasoning for coming to that conclusion.
Also curious about your thoughts @pharmakos since you seem to lurk here and it gets so lonely in my cage...
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Lithose
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Making so many points that you never stick to one is the same as not having any, Scream. When something lacks definition, it stops being anything. Don't play coy, its easy to see that's how you argue. Shotgun a ton of points out there, quickly abandon the ones that don't work and claim the other side is stupid for not seeing THE REAL point you made. Which was really agreeing with the winning side of the argument all along!
Its old, Scream.
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What is wrong with you? Honestly?Lithose said:
I never said the Politics Thread was a mistake. You are very, VERY confused about what my statement to a_skeleton_03 was about so AGAIN I will handwalk you through it...
I MADE the Politics Thread. I made two of the original ones as well. I do NOT think they are or were mistakes and I would NEVER advocate for their removal. Clear? FUCKING CLEAR?
My statement to a_skeleton_03 was saying that HIS (being a_skeleton_03) was capitulating toward a tiny handful of conservative posters who hand me on ignore. Since they took the free choice to ignore me, they no longer got to see the Politics Thread (remember...that I created and am still proud of). That is the price they should have paid to have me on ignore. You don't want to see my content? Then you don't get to see content I created in the first place. THAT is what my post to a_skeleton_03 was about.
Right this second you are posting in a thread called "Screamfeeders Joint". Do you know what it was called a few days ago? It was called "Politics Thread" and it was my original post from the original thread. LLR changed the name because it was a glaring reminder that this board does censor.
Is that clear Lithose? Do I need to try and explain it again in a different way for you?
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What. The. Fuck.
I made one point. I was censored to capitulate a small minority and you fucked up and said I was pro-censorship and are STILL doing it. There you go. One point. Fucking argue it then you disengenious twat. Do me a favor and go look at what khorum has under his name. Now I want you to realize that I can't respond to some of your posts because if I bring up the thing that someone said in ANYWAY, I will get banned. But you can. Khorum can. You all can make jokes, crack-wise and feel all bubbly about yourself. But I can't.
And then you come here and claim I am the one all about censorship? Please.
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Political question here in the actual politics thread.
I would like a Trump supporter to name the policy or series of polices that Donald Trump put in place in 2011 that began the lowering of black unemployment. It's a pretty simple question. Black unemployment is at it's lowest. That is undeniable. That trend began in 2011 after seeing the highest rates of unemployment in decades thanks to W. Bush. So exactly what policy was it that Trump enacted in 2011 that enabled him to begin the consistent downward trend of lowering Black Unemployment.
Bureau of Labor Statistics Data
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Unemployment Rate - 20 Yrs. & over, Black or African American Men
Graph and download economic data for Unemployment Rate - 20 Yrs. & over, Black or African American Men (LNS14000031) from Jan 1972 to Jul 2024 about 20 years +, males, African-American, household survey, unemployment, rate, and USA.fred.stlouisfed.org
Immigration enforcement. One of the fastest growing sectors is tertiary work for elder and patient care, Janitors, food prep, orderlies--low skill, high hour labor. These jobs are routinely filled through staffing agencies which hire illegals to staff them as "long term temps". A lot of the illegals have dried up in huge swaths of the country, especially those parts without sanctuary cities. Those jobs are excellent for black Americans and that's precisely who is being hired--for actual, decent wages even.
Can go into Shale next.
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Trump enacted Immigration enforcement in 2011? Fucking hell that is impressive!
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