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Tuco

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Selix_sl said:
Anyone have a guide on building a hi-tech city start to fInisj? Are they mostly oil based heavy pollution? I read they were good worker supplier cities and I keep running into late game cities where I need more workers and I have to reorganize everything just for more zoning space and I'm not always sure which density workers I need.
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If everything is unlocked in a region (Smelting, trade ports etc)
1. Get a typical city with very low/none industrial. Be sure to get a highschool/community college.
2. Build a smelter and trade ports and start importing ore/coal and exporting alloy. If you have those resources you can mine them too but three smelters is better profit than one smelter, one ore mine and one coal mine. You'll be making mad bank from smelters, get like 3-4 of them all building alloy.
3. Unlock processor plant with a few high tech industrial zones (build some around your college if you need to tech them up, but I've never had to and always place the community college/uni in a higher wealth area away from industry).
4. Start importing plastic and using your cities' alloy to build processors. This won't be a huge profit margin like smelters (smelters are like 400% profit over original material, processors are 200%).
5. Build a consumer electronics factory and start using the alloy + processors + imported plastic to build and export TVs. Keep building these factories.

At this point you've basically won the game. With a few tv factories you have an order of magnitude more income than is reasonable, and the profit margin on TV factories is so high that importing processors/alloy/plastic is better than building them. The opportunity cost of any space not being occupied by a TV factory is around 500k a month. To me this ruins the game because these factories may as well dupe gold. They need to do the following to fix this:
A. Enable whatever economy system they have to have industry compete (So if everyone is building TVs the profit will lower). Here's the disabled feature:
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Whenever they enable it alloy/electronics will plummet, though it might be kept artificially profitable by the fact that factories/trade is inherently un-simcity like and unintuitive. Frankly I think it shouldn't have been put into the game.
B. Make the economy system much more local (So even if the global price for a TV shipment is 197,000 if I make a huge TV factory city in my region the price will dramatically lower).
C. Make it much more challenging to find employees for a TV factory. Right now all you need to is a high school really, the community college just helps them get educated faster.
 
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To reinforce one of Tuco's points, you don't need your college/uni near industry. Students shop, and the distance seems to have little or no effect on whether industry will promote.
 
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March 11: We're currently on RR6 but that might be full. I started a region RR_Arcology_1 that's intended to generate 4 arcologies for the great works.
 
Tuco

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Has anyone found the deluxe bullshit tiles useful at all? Some people are saying that if you bitch to EA they'll give those tiles to your account. Frankly I think it'd be best if everyone avoided useless tiles so that we can claim each other's cities without issue, lol.
 
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Nice one Tuco.

Any who uses this be aware once you set it to borderless you can open the 'WindowedBorderlessGaming' app and set the resolution for your app/SimCity if it's still going off the screen.
 
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Dont think cheetah is gonna be re enabled anytime time soon , which sucks cause was hoping for it yesterday and now I dont think its gonna be patched in today or this week for that matter at the pace they are going.
 
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Tuco_sl said:
Has anyone found the deluxe bullshit tiles useful at all? Some people are saying that if you bitch to EA they'll give those tiles to your account. Frankly I think it'd be best if everyone avoided useless tiles so that we can claim each other's cities without issue, lol.
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The double decker does see to help with traffic more then the normal shuttle bus but I wouldn't say it is a major help. Most of the time traffic is so screwed up that it doesn't matter. I have always used the British police but I don't know how they compare to normal police. 2-3 of them work pretty well though.

I have no idea how the German train station is useful. In my tourist city I've seen it get up to 10k passengers for an event but I haven't compared it to a normal train station.

Honestly I'd rather there had beenunique fire station's and clinic's that started with two units instead of one.
 
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Just a note RR6 region is full now. If people have given up on a city or plan on being inactive for along time, remember to abandon your plot so someone else can grab it and work on it.
 
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Selix_sl said:
This may be facepalm worthy but what/where are these things? "Water well, water filtration on pumps, water treatment" I have found water towers and sewage treatment plants and when I click on them there are upgrade options for the sewage treatment plant but I have never seen an upgrade option for water towers. When I add a department of utilities I still don't see a water pump, water cleaning or upgrade options for water towers etc.
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Once you put a Department of Utilities you should have a option for the water pump station(in the same window the water towers are) that does a lot more work then the towers, can have more pumps added to it and a filtration pump added to it.

Tuco_sl said:
Has anyone found the deluxe bullshit tiles useful at all? Some people are saying that if you bitch to EA they'll give those tiles to your account. Frankly I think it'd be best if everyone avoided useless tiles so that we can claim each other's cities without issue, lol.
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The evil guy's tower, Vu's tower will literally upgrade all your industrial(if placed in the area) to high tech like that and the upgrades make them more efficient. As long as you can keep up with the crime it brings.

I thought someone said earlier that the different police stations, train stations etc each do something better then the regular versions and are supposed to influence the look of buildings in your city(ie they will change to match).
 
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Buy or wait. I have been watching the shenanigans from the backrow seats eating popcorn. I really wanted to buy this game, but something told me with this "always" online crap their would be release day problems. Diablo3 is going to Simcity
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Anywho, is it working now, or still a cluster?
 
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I bought it Saturday night...the pull was just too great. After swallowing the giant price tag, I'm actually really enjoying the game. I haven't had a single problem logging into the server I'm on, and have only had to roll back my city once. (very small roll back)

Encountered a small bug here and there, signs vanishing as soon as you place them, stuff like that. On my 2nd city and it's doing much better than the first...though for some reason this time I put the god damn industrial section upwind of the residential section AGAIN...Hopefully I'll remember that shit by my 3rd city.

Thinking of going back and turning my original city (oil rich) into an industrial wasteland...we'll see how it goes.
 
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The servers are like 95% better now, its not really an issue anymore. There are a couple quirky bugs when you get further into the game, but they seem to be patching them really quickly, so I think you're probably safe to buy the game at this point, as the worst is over, and the smaller annoyances are being addressed pretty fast.
 
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Dis_sl said:
Buy or wait. I have been watching the shenanigans from the backrow seats eating popcorn. I really wanted to buy this game, but something told me with this "always" online crap their would be release day problems. Diablo3 is going to Simcity
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Anywho, is it working now, or still a cluster?
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Agree with Gorehack and Intropy. I've had no problem logging into the game at any time all weekend, so that is definitely not an issue. There are some quirky bugs and some "features" that don't 100% work, plus things like leaderboards and cheetah speed being disabled, but otherwise the game works and is a blast.
 
Tuco

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Yeah I'm forced to disagree. If you're on the fence or don't want to play immediately it's better to wait. Virtually every aspect of the game is bugged in some small way or will likely be improved later. The developers were extremely ambitious with the scope of the simulations and weren't able to achieve acceptable results. Really, just not having cheetah mode alone is enough to wait.

The biggest reason to play now is just because this community is active and figuring things out. A couple weeks after they finish the game virtually every problem will have been solved and there's really nothing left to discover on your own, unless you, you know, are disciplined to ignore free information.

Edit: I tried to think of features that weren't bugged or working weirdly and the only thing I could come up with was parks and taxes
 
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Eyashusa_sl said:
Has anyone else had massive problems with people entering your city from the highway? I'm talking perpetual 3 lane traffic jam that goes off the screen.

I think that was part of the reason my petroleum export plan failed. My trucks couldn't get in and out of the city.
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Pathing uses shortest route.Always. It doesn't matter if you have a nice wide highway which is one tile longer than a dirt track, traffic will take the dirt track.

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Anyone have an old CDkey for SimCity 4 Deluxe?
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/24780/
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Selix

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cinge_sl said:
Once you put a Department of Utilities you should have a option for the water pump station(in the same window the water towers are) that does a lot more work then the towers, can have more pumps added to it and a filtration pump added to it.
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I thought for sure my utilities screens were screwed up so I went into my game to take screenshots to post and lo' and behold I found the water pumping station right next to the water tower. Apparently I have been putting down multiple sewage treatment centers thinking they were the water pumping stations everyone was talking about.
 
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