Smartphones

Probably just chasing numbers for now. It probably would take a few years before we really see any apps/games that would fully utilize all that power. Of course by that point we're going to be a couple more models of phones newer too. Seems like phone hardware is greatly outpacing the software at the moment.

Kedwyn_sl said:

People travel and use their phones in different ways. If 3 hours is enough for you great. Its not for many.

Considering what the new samsung devices get (note 2 and S3) 3 hours is pretty pathetic. My note 2 can get 10 hours of screen on with wifi and 6-7 on 4g (heavy browsing).

I don't need all that time every single day of my life. Its nice to have though when I need it. Considering there isn't a shitty battery life discount on the service or the phone I'll take the extra life.

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Sorry but you're fucking retarded as usual. Yeah, let's compare a 5.5 inch phone to a 4.7 inch phone with very similar internals. The second you mentioned wifi also completely discounts your opinion. Wifi use maybe 1/10 of the power consumption of 4G. With wifi on, my HTC One X can idle for less than 1% battery life per hour (checked when I was on vacation in Christmas). I can easily push 5+ hours SOT on pure wifi on my One X with auto brightness.

Reading some threads on XDA, the battery life is nowhere near as good as you made it out to be. Someone can pull a 6 hour SOT on their phone, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. HOX has a 1800mAh battery while the the S3 has a 2100mAh. That's a 17% increase. On average, you MIGHT get 20-30 minutes more of SOT. That's not including the fact that battery efficiency is not 100%. You can't fucking defy physics.

Alkorin_sl said:

Just curious, but your measure of productivity is... what, exactly? My phone complements my day-to-day, it doesn't replace it (or detract from it).

3 hours is ridiculous for any modern device. Most laptops will outdo 3 hours with heavy usage.

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Again, what's with people comparing different form factor? If you have a laptop pre-Sandybridge, you'd be lucky to get more than 3 hours of heavy usage. Laptop have been getting improvements for decades, while the mobile platform is still in the early stages of development. These comparisons are fucking retarded.

To your other question, if you need to use your phone 5 out of the 8 hours you work, you've got a point. My point is, most of people don't.

BrutulTM_sl said:

The question is what is the upside of all that processing power? I can't say I've ever run into anything that slows down my Galaxy Nexus. Is there a benefit or is this just chasing numbers?

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Well, in theory, quicker cpus and gpus should allow for better battery life since the hardware will be able to complete its computations quicker and return to a low power state in less time than a less powerful cpu/gpu. I have no idea how much of an effect that has in the real world, though.

I thought this Wired article was interesting. I agree with them that the S4, like the iPhone 5, is a great upgrade over its predecessor, albeit an incredibly boring one.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/...ung-galaxy-s4/

Oh, and one last thing. My Nexus 4 overheated and hard locked yesterday while I was walking around the city centre in Jakarta, Indonesia. Air temperature at the time was 32 degrees celsius. I'm going to contact Google when I get back to England and ask for a replacement. If the replacement can't handle warm temperatures.. Well, I guess I'll have to start looking for another phone.

The Dauntless One_sl said:

Sorry but you're fucking retarded as usual. Yeah, let's compare a 5.5 inch phone to a 4.7 inch phone with very similar internals. The second you mentioned wifi also completely discounts your opinion. Wifi use maybe 1/10 of the power consumption of 4G. With wifi on, my HTC One X can idle for less than 1% battery life per hour (checked when I was on vacation in Christmas). I can easily push 5+ hours SOT on pure wifi on my One X with auto brightness.

Reading some threads on XDA, the battery life is nowhere near as good as you made it out to be. Someone can pull a 6 hour SOT on their phone, but that doesn't mean it's the norm. HOX has a 1800mAh battery while the the S3 has a 2100mAh. That's a 17% increase. On average, you MIGHT get 20-30 minutes more of SOT. That's not including the fact that battery efficiency is not 100%. You can't fucking defy physics.

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Who pissed in your cheerios? Take a shit or something.

I simply pointed out there are devices that give much better than 3 hours of screen before drained. You go on bitching about me providing WIFI numbers (many people have access to WIFI at work) yet I also gave 4g time as well. Then you tell me I'm full of shit with what kind of screen times I'm getting.

Here is a thread with people getting very similar battery life and most of them are not running many tweaks.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=2160917

When i had my S3 I got at least 4 hours on 4g. About 1/3 more than the 3 on the HTC. Those two devices should be similar enough for you. People here getting 5-8+ hours of screen on.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ry+life&page=2

I'm on AT&T so if you have a CDMA carrier battery life always takes a hit.

One reason I like Samsung devices is they aren't actively trying to lock them down. So while I can usually root any device, what I can't always do is flash custom roms and more importantly custom kernels. Freezing / removing bloat is also huge battery saver.

Oh and go fuck yourself with your shitty attitude.

Yeah go fuck yourself too. I don't give a shit if you give me wifi numbers because that's apples to oranges. That's my point. Oh, next time do some math before you open your mouth because you're pretty fucking retarded. Here is some math for you.

Based on my exact numbers on 4G
HOX: 3 hours
Theoretical battery on S3: 3.51 hours

That's pretty much on par with what you got.

Based on my exact numbers on Wifi
HOX: 5 hours
Theoretical battery on Note 2: 8.5 hours

Oh... pretty much on par with your numbers too. You make it sound like HTC device have abnormally bad battery life and Samsung devices have extraordinary battery life. It is in fact, on par. You're just fucking retarded.

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So let me get this straight.

You post some theoretical limits directly out of your ass.

I've provided links (from the same website you touted) of people clearly exceeding your bull shit theoretical numbers, in the real world, by material amounts.

Get the fuck out of here with your bull shit.

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I am waiting for Samsung galaxy s4.

Is the Nexus 4 as nice as it looks on paper? I haven't really been following the smart phone market lately but may be jumping back in now/soon. I know the Galaxy s4 is coming soon but don't know what advantages it has over the Nexus.

Amzin_sl said:

Is the Nexus 4 as nice as it looks on paper? I haven't really been following the smart phone market lately but may be jumping back in now/soon. I know the Galaxy s4 is coming soon but don't know what advantages it has over the Nexus.

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I really like mine. For the price it can't be touched. The S4 and HTC One have it beat on specs though, as far as I understand it.

Amzin_sl said:

Is the Nexus 4 as nice as it looks on paper? I haven't really been following the smart phone market lately but may be jumping back in now/soon. I know the Galaxy s4 is coming soon but don't know what advantages it has over the Nexus.

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Nexus 4 is solid but I'd go with Samsung S4 or the Note 3 later in the year. You can almost always find an AOSP ROM to flash.

Ossoi_sl said:

Maybe Swype is more forgiving or I'm used to the keyboard layout more but Swiftkey hardly recognises anything that I swipe

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Swype is king for me. Unfortunately it doesn't work worth a shit with Dolphin which is the browser I use. Until that is fixed I'm using swiftkey. Its nice but no comparison on accuracy.

Kedwyn_sl said:

So let me get this straight.

You post some theoretical limits directly out of your ass.

I've provided links (from the same website you touted) of people clearly exceeding your bull shit theoretical numbers, in the real world, by material amounts.

Get the fuck out of here with your bull shit.

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Wow you're retarded.

1) The battery life for my HTC is an underestimation of what I got real world. I threw the numbers out because I don't own the device anymore.
2) I didn't pull out those numbers out of my ass. If you don't know how I got them, go to school.
3) My theoretical battery life of the Samsung devices is to show that the S3 and Note 2 can't fucking defy physics like you seem to think they do. HTC devices have a smaller battery, but not any worse battery life.
4) You're retarded if you think your screenshots mean jack shit. Even so, my numbers line up pretty close to your screenshots.

Anyway, you're pretty dumb so I'm gonna stop talking to you.

Last post on this, here are my battery stats from yesterday.

IIRC 60% or so Wifi rest on 4g. Bulk of the screen time was Wifi approximately 2 hours via 4g. About an hour streaming music as well with the screen off via 4g. Everything syncing normally.

20-30% off isn't close you retard. The difference is close to what you claim to get in total.