SOE Becomes Daybreak / Russian shutdown

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Silence_sl

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Full production on Next won't even begin until Landmark hits open beta. Look at how long SWTOR, ESO, Wildstar, etc. were in production for. It's unrealistic to think that an mmo that is trying to innovate should be finished after 3 years.
No one here said it should be finished after 3 years.

Not to mention that the games you listed were roaring failures.
 

Iadien

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No one here said it should be finished after 3 years.

Not to mention that the games you listed were roaring failures.
As mentioned, the game was scrapped 3 years ago, Dave Georgeson stated that the first several months was a few devs prototyping and trying to figure out if their new ideas would even be possible. They didn't assemble a full dev team until many months later. Daybreak clearly prioritized other systems before combat. EQN systems, including deeper combat, will be coming after the devs working on Landmark switch over to EQN in the coming months.

My point was that any half decent MMO takes a long ass time to develop, especially for a game trying to innovate.
 

Jackdaddio_sl

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No one here said it should be finished after 3 years.

Not to mention that the games you listed were roaring failures.
Well, GW2 took.. how long? Five years? Six? All you kept hearing is "We'll release it when it's ready" and people waiting went ballistic saying they want it now and "haven't you been working on it long enough?"

I'm just curious how long EQN will take compared to that (given it's somewhat of a direct descendant like GW2 was) because we know no matter when it comes out, people will say it's either garbage or the best thing ever like they do about GW2 now (talking about themasseshere; vet opinions don't matter to companies when discussing revenue) For as good/bad people say GW2 is, it popped nicely in China so at least the company is happy about that.

If/when this game is actually made and released, I have a sneaky suspicion that it's going to be everyone's (press) GOTY simply because no one else is going to be making a AAA mmo when it drops so none of this really matters. I mean what's going to beat it.... Warhammer 40k, lol?
 

Convo

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EQN was scraped a few times.. sounds like they basically dropped the original concept and came up with that they have now. Pretty sure they had a true EQ sequel drawn up before they went this route. :-/
 

Convo

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that's the weird part. It sounded like at some point they acknowledged the clock needed to be turned back with MMOs. Thus the true EQ sequel.. I guess that's why I'm still hopeful for EQN. Assuming they didn't abandon those core principles. They probably did, heh.
 

Jimbolini

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There was a "leak" animation sample a few years back. (Ogre I believe) that was listed for EQ3.

I remember SOE fired the animator for leaking...and for the life of me I cannot find the video of it.

The art was more traditional, and I assume it was going to be Eq2.5
 

Big Flex

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all I can find is a screenshot from the animation reel of the Orc.

The video also showcased a Skeleton and human paladin-like figure. It featured several attack and death animations and was used for the audio engineers to try out different sound fx. Honestly, the art style from that old leak and the current vision we see in Landmark was not that dissimilar. Obnoxious shoulder pads and clunky extremities punctuated by 11 ft vertical leap whirl wind attacks by people in full plate mail. Slightly less cartoony, and I'd wager this was well before the current game incarnation of utilizing voxels was even a thing.

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Iadien

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There was a "leak" animation sample a few years back. (Ogre I believe) that was listed for EQ3.

I remember SOE fired the animator for leaking...and for the life of me I cannot find the video of it.

The art was more traditional, and I assume it was going to be Eq2.5
Yeah, I posted that years ago.EQNextReel

Damn, I uploaded that to mediafire in 2011. lol
 

Big Flex

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i bet the second version of EQN that they flushed would have been an awesome game. Like a mother aborting a baby who could have been the one to cure cancer, we'll never know.

tl;dr dave georgeson had a back-alley abortion.
 

Big Flex

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Ponytail is more fun to rag on. Butler needs more distinguishing characteristics to make MS Paint satire of, like McQuaid

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Never mind.
 

Vitality

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I was kind of touched by the story of some stray cat hiding in Butlers sports car engine compartment.