Loser Araysar
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Eomer
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haha, I'm not complaining about the show, like I said it's funny and I enjoyed it. It's just that I'm the kind of guy who has a very hard time watching shit like Borat or Bruno, it makes me incredibly uncomfortable and awkward, and for whatever reason Sunny sets that shit off as well.
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hodj
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That's pretty much why its the best show on TV. They're horrible people, they do horrible things, and in the end, they almost always get their comeuppances.
hodj
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No one is misrepresenting you, the entire fucking 60s movement was born of the Frankfurt school's being moved to Columbia University after the Nazis shut them down
You should care about die hard extremism, as they're the people who tend to work the hardest to make sure their world views get promoted above all others.
Sure you can.
Nah, if no one will pick you up, you just walk until the police stop you (if you're on an interstate).
Best show on TV, really.
Famm
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I meant in terms of this discussion and your insinuation that extremism is the only possible representation of Dumar's concepts. Not in general terms. More out of context absolutism.
No one's escaping to that, they were born into it. More extreme hyperbole.
hodj
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Dumar is an extremist. He openly advocates for a person who called for violent revolution as a means to an end. That's as extreme as you can get.
Ergo.
The only possible representation of his concepts is an extremist one.
Actually most uncontacted tribes remain that way out of choice. Its not like they can't walk into the villages and settle down, they can, in fact some do. But mostly they just come in at night and steal things from modern society they desire like axes and metal pots and then run off back to the village.
hodj
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Two wrongs fallacy.
thanks for proving me right though, I appreciate it
Actually let me add one more thing:
I thought the history of America was racism, prejudice, slavery, the destruction and oppression of entire cultures and people and the usurpation of their land for the benefit of whites.
I mean that's what Frankfurt school alums like Howard Zinn taught me.
Are you saying they're wrong?
You don't just violently revolt: the society and the people of a society have to be ready. I'd use a reference of course, but you'd just label it extremist again. We're not ready, but we're beginning to see the limits of what capitalism can provide for us. And once those limits appear ever closer, that's when we'll see bigger and more grandiose wealth grabs by the wealthy (such as the synthetic market nonsense). Once society is primed by the evidence of its own structural failure, it will come.
hodj
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I thought we were seeing the limits of what capitalism could provide back in the 1860s.
Not that any of the stuff you're typing right now is a refutation of the fact that you just appealed, once again, to fallacy to justify your world view.
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hodj
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Well, you know, the Native Americans committed genocide on every large animal on the continent, so they kinda had it coming. I mean, after all, they were destroying natural relationships to make commodities out of the flesh of living creatures.
Such evil must be stopped.
Because extremist communist.
The entire history of the world is a history of violent revolution. If you want structural societal change, then it almost always has to be violent. Can it possibly not be? I suppose. But to the entrenched oligarchy of a society brought about by classism, capitalism is working absolutely fantastic for ours.
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Citation required.
Pretty sure the entire history of the world is mostly lava and rocks.
added: I actually love it when people like Dumar made sweeping statements like "The history of history is class struggle" because then you just point out that the history of class struggle really only goes back maybe 5-8000 years or so.
Its like I said before, his view is limited, in scope, space and time. He is only concerned with an extremely finite view of life and human existence, anything outside of that isn't relevant because, well, because he says so, but mostly because it tends to refute his claims.
Most of even human history has nothing to do with class struggle. That's fucking retarded as shit. Class didn't even exist until after agriculture and religion and organized society and written history were developed. There's literally 120,000 years AT MINIMUM of human history that just isn't relevant to him.
But it should be.