Star Wars : Rogue One

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ValkyrieIATD

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Just saw it. Loved it. Definitely my favorite since the original 3.

With that being said, it wasn't perfect.

- First 20-30 minutes were a jumpy scattered mess.
- Tarkin and Leia were unnecessary. The facial CGI tech just isn't there yet.
- The scene between Krennic and Vader completely ruined the Vader reveal. That scene was wholly unnecessary as well. It would have been so much more badass if the Vader reveal happened at the very end as he boards the fleet command ship.
- Very dry. Without the levity from K-2S0 and Chirrut/Baze there was almost no spark or chemistry between many of the characters.

Despite that, the final 30-40 minutes make up for many of the shortcomings. Best battle scene since Hoth, by a mile.
 

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Started ok then just fell apart. I would watch the prequels before this thing and I hated those!
Wanted to like it, I really did but too many glaring problems I just dont think the director(s) and council of SW really thought about this all the way thru or it suffered the dir change and claimed it didnt.

1. Movie was too long.

2. Doing good till Tarkin, tried to explain it away like other sheep but more I think over it the more pist I get.

3. The really big thing that just pulled me right out of the movie was Vader's first scene, looks like some shitty cosplay costume, although I did like the fight scene. Lighting was completely wrong, I didnt look to see if this was CGI or just bad lighting and camera placement. Either way, Disney CASH couldnt have fixed it it seems!

4. Rebels kill on a whim now and are murders of those they conspire with? This is too long to get into, some will try to clean it up on some explaining but thats the point, it wasnt needed and neither was his handler trying to give out extra orders under the radar. Only thing it show is that the rebels lost their way on good/evil and there's the bitch complaint isnt it. Everyone is suffering and looking to do things under the empire's radar but we didnt get that with this steaming pile!

5. Leia CGI, Joan Rivers didnt have as much face stretching!

6. Mon Mothma was good, no cgi to my knowledge. Why the fuck didnt they just cast actors for Leia and Tarkin? You either cgi all of them or actor all! Now if you try to pull them into another film you have to try to decide again.

5. Temple guardian was awesome as was k-2SO.

6. This should be num1, stormtrooper licensing problems it seems still! The whole ep4-6 works when you have limited trooper styles. We have how many different types? 12? WTF!. Hated this with the prequels, rebels and ep7. You can explain all you like but the real fact is Lucas lost the court battle over it and has been a sore loser since then.
And thats the joke, the guy wasnt even going to do anything about it until Lucas thought the guy was oversteps on some extra cash flow Lucas just had to get those few dollars! He was happy to just make the helmets on his own and not get nasty with the franchise on royalties.

7. Dr Evazan, great cameo but not sure I accept his escape.

8. R2 and 3po, guessing they were in route to leia's corvette on yavin 4 that would be docked for some reason? Plausible but sloppy. Maybe I missed it but where was the whole rebel base thing on Dantooine? This would have been a great time to explain why they left the base there, maybe I missed this but doubt it.

9. They didnt even name the place where you see Vader, I was ROFL so hard. Guessing they dont want to admit the prequels? They made a point to list all the other places but that one.

This needed to rewrite murder boy and his handler for one thing, add in Dantooine and remove all the other trooper styles but what was in ep4-5. Actor up the CGI crappy stuff and allow the special group to become Rogue Squadron and link into the lore of how Lando got placed into Jabba's palace and how they got the plans again for the second DS.

Guessing this is doing what is happening with the Tranformers franchise, they got the rights for the names but never knew anything about it till they got hired and just made things up as they go?

If you liked it, great. I just not a fan anymore it seems, still happy Lucas isnt involved though. Dont think i could sit thru more kiddy crap and bad writing. This is good on its own merits but fails as part of the series cannon.
 

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Feanor

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I watched it last week. It's an excellent Star Wars movie.
Watched Force Awakens for the second time. Finn and Rey are likeable characters. A raging and rattled Kylo Ren is a nice contrast. The Starkiller plot sticks close to ANH but underneath the Star Warsness is right there. Abrams and co. did better than Star Trek.
 
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Quaid

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Watched Force Awakens for the second time. Finn And Rey are likeable characters. A raging and rattled Kylo Ren is a nice contrast. The Starkiller plot sticks close to ANH but underneath the Star Warsness is right there. Abrams and co. did better than Star Trek.

Star Trek was a travesty.
 
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Gavinmad

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The Starkiller plot sticks close to ANH but underneath the Star Warsness is right there.

I'm sorry, I think you meant to type 'basically just a remake of ANH'. Ep 7 ripped off Ep 4 even more than T3 ripped off T2, and T3 was almost a shot for shot remake of T2.
 

Quaid

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I'm sorry, I think you meant to type 'basically just a remake of ANH'. Ep 7 ripped off Ep 4 even more than T3 ripped off T2, and T3 was almost a shot for shot remake of T2.

We'll see where they go with the story in Eps 8 & 9, but it's entirely possible that the repetition you're complaining about is an intentional part of the overarching theme of the trilogy.
 

Royal

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Well we can take for granted that Ep 8 is going to take a downward turn from TFA, thematically. Whether it his the major beats of ESB (a protagonist captured, another seriously injured, a shocking revelation) is another question. I think it's safe to say that things will be looking down for the Resistance by the end of it though.
 

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I'm sorry, I think you meant to type 'basically just a remake of ANH'. Ep 7 ripped off Ep 4 even more than T3 ripped off T2, and T3 was almost a shot for shot remake of T2.
One thing I noticed is how bad they fail at names. Nobody has figured out the Lucas mojo.

Drek Porso. Genwith Eksboks. See? It ain't so hard.
 

Royal

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Senator Palpatine, it's an honor to finally meet you.

No need for such formality. Call me Sheev.
 

Gavinmad

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Well we can take for granted that Ep 8 is going to take a downward turn from TFA, thematically. Whether it his the major beats of ESB (a protagonist captured, another seriously injured, a shocking revelation) is another question. I think it's safe to say that things will be looking down for the Resistance by the end of it though.

I guarantee we're going to find out who Rey's parents are, and I bet that revelation will be a shocking one.
 

Royal

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Yeah they're going to reveal that. I can't remember who it was that said it but someone involved with the film said it would be revealed. I don't know who it could be and still be shocking though. Unless they use one of the crackpot fan theories.
 

Gavinmad

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Pretty sure Game of Thrones has rubbed a bit of shine off of Twincest.

Luke and Leia being the parents would hardly be a shocking revelation. Wouldn't even be a stretch either. They hooked up before they knew they were related, Leia got knocked up, got a placental transfer into a uterine replicator because she was too busy with the rebellion, they found out it was an incest baby and put the fetus in stasis, then some time after RotJ they were tying up loose ends and were like 'oh yeah what about our incest baby are we gonna flush it or what' and decide instead they'll just abandon her on some random desert planet because Leia is a Republican and life only matters until birth.
 
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Don't think Disney would allow their Star Wars princess to be knocked up by her brother. Would impact kid toy sales drastically with only a marginal increase in adult toy sales.
 
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I saw this for the first time a couple nights ago.

First off, I'm not a huge Star Wars fan -- I'm more of a Trek guy (TOS, TNG, DS9 -- not the new crap) but I actually really enjoyed this. Much more so than TFA. Other than the main protagonist I actually liked the characters. For me I've grown tired of seeing the same characters over and over. I'm sick of C-3PO, R2D2, Chewbaca, and the rest and I think that's one of the reasons Rogue clicked for me.

I recognize there were lots of silly things like the ridiculous video-game-like hoops the heroes had to jump through to get the plans. And CGI Tarkin was distracting. They need to cut that shit out until they can absolutely perfect it.

Loved the space battle. That was bad ass.