Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
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Gonna disengage the expectations restraints here for a second ...
Suppose Abrams delivers up exactly what a lot of the fans are afraid to hope for; something on par withEmpire(apologies to those not as emotionally attached to that installment as they are to others). What then? He's not directing the next one. Can it be successful enough in both financials and accolades to change that? If he pulls off what is considered almost impossible right now, would you want anyone else touching your Star Wars after that?
Suppose Abrams delivers up exactly what a lot of the fans are afraid to hope for; something on par withEmpire(apologies to those not as emotionally attached to that installment as they are to others). What then? He's not directing the next one. Can it be successful enough in both financials and accolades to change that? If he pulls off what is considered almost impossible right now, would you want anyone else touching your Star Wars after that?
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chaos
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I want to suck Abrams off just as much as the next guy, but these things are team affairs. Disney has top men on it. TOP. MEN. And teh guys directing the follow ups are no slouches. They will have a core writing and production staff maintain their positions through all three movies to guide them, and the director will give them his specific take within the confines of what Disney already has fleshed out.
Khalan
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Nerds just kill themselves at that point with an unblemished memory of SW left.
Jait
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This.
Kenneth Fucking Branagh (he rarely uses his middle name) did Thor. You can go ahead and put all the directors of all the other Marvel movies together and they wouldn't be able to find their collective talent in the same Galaxy as Branagh. Doesn't mean Thor was the greatest Marvel movie ever made, in fact, it was pretty much up to snuff with the rest.
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He was redeemed in the eyes of his son, after essentially fighting against the son's side in a war and killing an old man his son knew for a couple hours. It wasn't entirely unbelievable that his son believed he could be redeemed, after all, aside from being on an opposite in a war and killing soldiers Luke barely knew, there was no real personal loss to Luke with any of his friends or loved ones. Contrast that with...
A redemption Arc with Ren's sister Rey, who just watched Ren murder their long lost father in cold blood. Somehow Vader's redemption would have felt a lot more forced is Luke had forgiven Vader for straight up murdering Leia in front of him OR if in Return Luke met Padme, his long lost mother and then Vader stabbed her through the stomach. You know, shit like that makes forgiveness a much higher bar to cross
That said, Vader wasn't redeemed for everyone--he was forgiven and redeemed for Luke and somehow the Force. And we in general could believe that because Vader seemed more or less a kind of enforcer that at least mostly fought against people fighting against him (He didn't order the planet blown up, and seemed to be under someone's thumb the entire time). In general though he was just a corrupted knight that was throwing down against the rebels and killing evil Imperials for being idiots. The prequels certainly shit on that though. Vader went from a bad ass corrupted Paladin, who had lost his way and cared more about order and control than justice and all that benevolent shit...To a child murdering psychopath. So yeah, the original movie Vader? Believable he could be redeemed, prequel Vader? Lol, that's why I don't count those pieces of garbage.
Kalaar kururuc
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Not sure if its been mentioned before but the new female lead looks like agent smith (check the gif posted abive with the saber). Still cant wait until the 17th
iannis
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redletter guys have a prediction video up. I was expecting a 5 minute joke reel, but they actually go into it and make it interesting.
All they're going off of is the three trailers and the comic con reel. And booze.
And cynicism.
All they're going off of is the three trailers and the comic con reel. And booze.
And cynicism.
Oh no! Senator Binks' tomb has been desecrated! There's Bantha poop everywhere!!!
Rian Johnson is directing episode 8, who most know probably from Looper, but he also directed three of the absolute best episodes of Breaking Bad including Ozymandius. I'm excited to see what he will do with the middle episode of the trilogy, which is usually the darkest emotionally. That is if the committee gives him enough creative freedom to do so.
Caliane
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Flamethrowers have been a thing in the games/EU for a long time.
Also, SOMETHING burned Lukes parents/houses.
old joke is they are something lightsabers can't do shit against. (Granted the force push and force energy absorb both would likely work.)
Visually, I think they look too practical in the shots here though. should be space flamethrowers, not real ones.
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His movie Brick is one of my favorites. He's a good director. The Brothers Bloom was ok, but Brick was like a masterpiece.
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I was thinking about this the other day. You think about what is coming out of Disney's machine. Sure, they're not all 10's but you put the Marvel movies, Pixar, Disney Animation, and now Star Wars. Is the same posse walking around putting their stamp of approval on things or how is that working? Someone or a group of people are making sure these things are meeting expectations. Curious who that is because overall they've had a really good run over the last 5-10 years. I guess it could be they're just hiring the right people but anyway, it gives me some confidence, spoilers right or wrong, this will be pretty good just because Disney knows what is at stake... lot's and lot's of money if they get this right. They're opening up a StarWars Land, not to mention their merchandise from collectibles to toddler toys, this stands to be one of their most lucrative deals in Disney history.
Khalan
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The movie doesn't have to have a redemption arc. Anakin didn't get redeemed in the prequel trilogy, in fact he went super evil. This trilogy could be about the conflict between Ren/First Order and the Resistance ending with one side biting it. I will be disappointed if we get another bad guy "Redeeming" himself. Let him be bad and die bad.
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Caliane
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not sure I agree. I understand where you are coming from.
But this is Starwars. The mystical and philosophical nature of the Force. It can't just be able action etc. it needs that mystical aspect of fighting with good vs evil, and the moral dilemma, and temptation. I suppose there are more arguments. Palp never got a chance to redeem himself. This kindof fits in with what Lithose was saying. Vader got a chance because he was family. we barely knew the Emp.
trys to redeem, and the character chooses evil, and becomes irredeemable is an option. Making killing them a Pyrrhic victory for the sister.
But this is Starwars. The mystical and philosophical nature of the Force. It can't just be able action etc. it needs that mystical aspect of fighting with good vs evil, and the moral dilemma, and temptation. I suppose there are more arguments. Palp never got a chance to redeem himself. This kindof fits in with what Lithose was saying. Vader got a chance because he was family. we barely knew the Emp.
trys to redeem, and the character chooses evil, and becomes irredeemable is an option. Making killing them a Pyrrhic victory for the sister.
Khalan
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Sure. But there are other ways of telling it than having Kylo Ren the ultimate bad, redeem himself. Maybe Rey/Fin go slightly dark side or Luke? Or maybe they do something bad and have to live with it, or pull an anakin and go evil and are killed? Why does the main bad have to be redeemed? Let him be the evil dude that dies the epic death.
For me Star Wars is more about the heroes journey than the redemption arc. Should be the story of Rey/Finn becoming jedi and defeating evil not trying to save it.
Or better yet, maybe they try to save Him/Redeem him but realize he is too fucking evil and put him down, putting them in great conflict without necessarily "redeeming" anyone
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So for$560 bucks you can get an exact copy of Kylo Ren's helmet. Created from the same molds as the actual prop or printed out from the movie's 3D models. Apparently Adam Driver has a giant fucking cranium and you'll prolly need something to approximate that massive nose if you plan to wear it.
But since the pix came out, fans have been speculating about how piecemeal and scuffed up it looks and whether it's cobbled together from vader's and other sithlord's relics, maybe even from Max Von Sydow's collection:
But since the pix came out, fans have been speculating about how piecemeal and scuffed up it looks and whether it's cobbled together from vader's and other sithlord's relics, maybe even from Max Von Sydow's collection: