ohkcrlho
Silver Baronet of the Realm
- 6,906
- 8,943
Star Wars: The Force Awakens (2015)
- Thread starter Aaron
- Start date
-
Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Drakain
Trakanon Raider
- 1,585
- 689
Semi off topic, but my son is turning 5 in a week, and we decided he could handle Star Wars. Finished the original trilogy last night. He asked if there was more to watch because the prequels are sitting on the shelf. I'll let him watch those at some point soon, but it was the first time I hesitated about my feelings on the prequels. It's not a love/hate, more an appreciate/dissapoint. I'm happy they were made because of the revitalization of the brand, but they were such let down. Hopefully Episode 7 blows our minds. Meanwhile, I'm going back to waching my son make lightsabers out or anything he can find. It's a proud day.
Caliane
Avatar of War Slayer
- 15,324
- 11,616
as much as I would love to. honestly its more then just the prequels. The EU is just as guilty of this.
Like, sure Knights of the Old Republic. its ok having crazy magic Jedi, and Jedi vs sith wars. its 4000 years in the past. That gives plenty of time for most of it to be "forgotten".
It's STILL a bit dangerous though.
As we've mentioned before, EU is really guilty at times of power creep and shitty writers trying to 1up each other with coolness. Light spears, light scimitars, light boomarangs light whips.. Force hadokens, force crushing star destroyers. Force galactic storms killing planets.
Plenty of youtubers pointing out how stupid cgi Yoda flipping around with a lightsaber was. But, the EU is guilty of shit even dumber.
For every 1 good EU story, there is 10 bad ones.
EU was basically fanfiction that no one read except a few people compared to the amount of people who watched the movies.
zzeris
King Turd of Shit Hill
- 20,279
- 85,886
George Lucas's evil revenge on humanity. I don't know what set him off but he should have been stoned.
Gamma Rays
Large sized member
- 4,004
- 9,585
Hoss
Make America's Team Great Again
- 27,201
- 15,339
What was your point again? That because lucas was bad at dutch his own explanation for how he came up with the name is somehow invalid? To english speaking audiences, it still had a 'dark father' sound to it, especially once we knew the big secret.
The emporer spent those 19 years trying to wipe all memory of the jedi from the galaxy. It was in a number of the books, and is even in the newest books that are still canon. Aside from hunting them down, he erased mentions of them from libraries and movies, jailed and executed people who spoke of them, and probably some other stuff I can't recall right now. It was an aggressive purging campaign.
The Edge
Lord Nagafen Raider
- 763
- 262
I'm not sure that's accurate. From what I remember off the top of my head, it was stated a few times that the Jedi order had diminished in power, and had lost much of their strength in abilities during the time of the prequels. Hence the need to bring the Force back into balance through Anakin.
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
- 43,737
- 52,285
Was it something other than this? And good god the only thing I can imagine making that episode worse was them stuffing Revan and Bane into it.
Also: ten thousand Jedi in a universe with billions of billions of people is so ridiculously rare they may as well be myths for most peopleanyway.
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
- 43,737
- 52,285
Right, this is the point that I was trying to make. Even if I was wrong about the size of the Jedi Order when the sequels begin, they're still a drop in the bucket compared to the population of the galaxy. Star Wars is on the Warhammer 40k scale, not a Star Trek or Mass Effect scale. In Star Trek they've only explored a very small part of the galaxy. In Star Wars, I would say 3/4ths of the galaxy is explored and colonized. According to a Star Wars galaxy map, only the galactic west is unexplored. Also, the Star Wars galaxy has 5 distinct arms compared to the 2 the Milky Way has, meaning their galaxy is much denser without the large voids the Milky Way has. They even seem to have a much smaller galactic core.
I mean, you can sort of assume that most worlds at least have wildly exaggerated stories and legends of the Jedi, hence Anakin's belief that nobody could kill one. And maybe Watto was well traveled in the days before he settled on Tattooine, which is how he knew that Jedi could do mind tricks.
I always assumed Jedi were sort of like Space Marines in 40k. They're actually incredibly rare and the vast majority of people in the Imperium will never see one, but you read about them all the time in novels because they're one of the more badass aspects of the setting. So obviously Jedi will feature prominently in the movies, even if they're actually quite rare throughout the galaxy.
Palum
what Suineg set it to
- 26,522
- 41,287
Plus, consider that a jedi human compared to a normal human is 'special' but compare your run-of-the-mill shit-tier jedi to say, super dextrous/fast/smart/strong random 'aliens' and the gap there probably shrinks. Obviously there are super jedi, alien jedi, etc. but seems to me if you're a jedi on a ship that gets blown to pieces by torpedoes the force matters very little. That on top of the fact that the jedi's greatest powers are manipulation, not cutting one person in half at a time and it appears that they probably wouldn't stand out as 'super' most of the time but rather more like aliens/aristocrats/assholes.