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I really wish they would have left in the space nun rave and cut the casino scene. At least then we'd see the film as campy, rather than just pure shit.
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Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)
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The thing with the prequels, despite the obvious flaws, I can think of points in those movies that I genuinely enjoy(ed). Where's the equivalent of the Darth Maul or Anakin/Obi-Wan fight? Fuck, I liked the podracing, too.
There's no payoff in these and what's left is some boardroom designed bullshit and "I am woman, hear me roar" agenda pushing.
There's no payoff in these and what's left is some boardroom designed bullshit and "I am woman, hear me roar" agenda pushing.
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Jive Turkey
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Hopefully you offered a tissue to poorJive Turkey .
Still thinking about my post? lol such faggotry.
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Jive Turkey
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About half way through this video, but he hits on a lot of good points. The self sacrifice contradictions in particular
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Two lightsabers never touched in this movie. Not once.
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kegkilla
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You realize that this is one of the major themes of the prequels right? That the Jedi council are pretentious cunts and mostly blind to the fact that they've become imperialists under the guise of "restoring order to the galaxy." This isn't some new twist on the lore by Disney.
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Chukzombi
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i'm sure this is the hundredth time this was posted, but i am lazy.
there could have been a good battle with luke and kylo, but it was all a fucking troll job
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kegkilla
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Yeah he wasn't hiding, I mean the rest of the Jedi were being hunted down and exterminated. He was only the Jedi whom Vader would have most reason to see killed.
Anne Frank wasn't hiding either, she was just watching.
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Khane
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Luke wasn't in hiding anyway. He was in bitch mode self-exile.
Pretty reasonable for a character to go into hiding to bide their time and wait for an opportunity to strike. That's not what he was doing. He was crying himself to sleep in green milk for the rest of his days because he was sad about being a loser.
And then he was found and was told he was their last hope, exactly like Leia's message to Obi-Wan. But instead of rising to the occasion he stomped his feet and plugged his ears.
Pretty reasonable for a character to go into hiding to bide their time and wait for an opportunity to strike. That's not what he was doing. He was crying himself to sleep in green milk for the rest of his days because he was sad about being a loser.
And then he was found and was told he was their last hope, exactly like Leia's message to Obi-Wan. But instead of rising to the occasion he stomped his feet and plugged his ears.
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Royal
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Yes it was part of the larger theme that the institutions you trust (the Senate, the Jedi, the Republic at large), even those that you see as having a tradition of standing for what is good, can fail their own purpose. Lucas was trying to sprinkle in a little Vietnam in a way similar to how he had drawn on WW2 for the OT but more from a lessons of perspective.
But the movies have never really dealt with that as a self-realization or admission. The Jedi were always seen as some sort of perfect example of what to strive for and many fans continuously refer to anything that Yoda has ever said as some unassailable truth within the setting. Having an authority figure like Luke holding the very order to which he belongs up and examining it's flaws sets the stage for it to be reformed going forward by those who will follow.
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i bought 60+ tickets to The Last Jedi over 2 months, using moviepass
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Miguex
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and yet the throne room scene is one of the best fight scenes in the series.
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Royal
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Yeah I find it an odd critique. Not that a_skeleton_03 was offering it up as one as much as just pointing it out, but I've seen others do so.
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No. No it wasn't. It was two fools flinging lightsabers uncontrollably, and literally lucked out, because force (reasons).
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The fights we've seen in the new trilogy so far with lightsabers have had a less polished look to them. Some of that can probably be attributed to the fight choreography not being quite as good but I think it's also something that they are going for. I remember people criticizing the prequel fights as being over choreographed and too flashy. They might have overcompensated a bit but I do like that they've dialed that back down.
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Yoda fled because he tried to take out Sideous, and failed. If he stuck around, he would have been hunted down and killed. Palps was at his peak during this time.
Having Luke run and hide because of Kylo is beyond stupid. When Anakin turned, Obi-Wan didn't run away from his student. He went and confronted him, and ultimately defeated him, and left him to die. Can you imagine if Obi-Wan had run from Anakin after he destroyed the Jedi temple? That would completely diminish his character, and make him a total coward.
Luke should have crawled out of the rubble, and schooled Kylo's bitch ass, and the rest of the Knights of Ren, like the Jedi Master he was.
Luke went out like a punk.
Having Luke run and hide because of Kylo is beyond stupid. When Anakin turned, Obi-Wan didn't run away from his student. He went and confronted him, and ultimately defeated him, and left him to die. Can you imagine if Obi-Wan had run from Anakin after he destroyed the Jedi temple? That would completely diminish his character, and make him a total coward.
Luke should have crawled out of the rubble, and schooled Kylo's bitch ass, and the rest of the Knights of Ren, like the Jedi Master he was.
Luke went out like a punk.
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kegkilla
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Starting with TPM, the council were portrayed as massive pricks in the way they deal with child Anakin. They only agree to train him when Obi Wan gives them an ultimatum. They're also openly derided by Qui Gon who tells Obi Wan he has a lot to learn when Obi Wan asks why he doesn't just do what the council says.
Then in 2, they are stupid enough to take ownership of a clone army that was procured by Count Dooku and start the Clone War. There's also the fact that Anakin's mom was tortured and killed by M̶u̶s̶l̶i̶m̶s̶ "sand people" and he wasn't able to do anything about it until it was too late because of retarded Jedi rules.
In 3, they are stupid enough to deny Anakin the rank of Master, then subsequently ask him to spy on Sheev. Then they plan to take over control of the Senate but of course are thwarted by Palpatine. It's also clear from the conversations between Anakin and Padme that at this point the Republic and the Jedi are imperialists on the wrong side of the war. Finally they manage to get themselves irradicated by their own Clone army.
Theres also the fact that a Sith Lord rose to Chancellor with total power while this was all going on.
If you came away from those movies with the impression that the Jedi were anything other than incompetent retards who are responsible for their own destruction, I don't know what movies you were watching. Yoda is generally the least retarded of them, but I'm not sure how you could consider lines like, "around the survivors, a perimeter create" to be indicative of great wisdom.
If you pull in the Clone Wars TV series, there's dozens more examples of the Jedi order being complete garbage.
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