Star Wars: The Last Jedi (2017)

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Drakain

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So a lot of you guys keep talking about how Rian Johnson single handedly destryed Star Wars. While he did write and direct, don't fool yourselves into thinking he did this on his own. Disney/Lucasfilm fired the dudes doing the Han Solo film, reshot most of it, and also reshot at least a third of Rogue One. And pretending JJ Abrams is the 'hero we need' to "fix" anything is hilarious when 3/4 of you hated him for TFA. TLJ is exactly what they wanted it to be.
 
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Gavinmad

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So a lot of you guys keep talking about how Rian Johnson single handedly destryed Star Wars. While he did write and direct, don't fool yourselves into thinking he did this on his own. Disney/Lucasfilm fired the dudes doing the Han Solo film, reshot most of it, and also reshot at least a third of Rogue One. And pretending JJ Abrams is the 'hero we need' to "fix" anything is hilarious when 3/4 of you hated him for TFA. TLJ is exactly what they wanted it to be.

I didn't say Abrams is the hero we need, I said he would be a hero if he pulled the 'it was all a dream' shtick as a response to ep 8. Obviously that will never happen.
 
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Maybe mix it in with the Rogue One vader scene.
Yea, I cut that scene to the credits, with a few cuts if the fight where they zoom in and focus the faces, it's a distraction.

Also when IP Man first encounter the storm troopers there's a lot of cutting out closes up jyns and Mexican faces too

And then just pure spaces battles wo singular shots of command decisions or showing a face shot of a xwing guy blowing up.
 

Royal

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And pretending JJ Abrams is the 'hero we need' to "fix" anything is hilarious when 3/4 of you hated him for TFA. TLJ is exactly what they wanted it to be.

Expecting any extensive retconning to occur in 9 would be foolish but it is worth noting that Abrams did bang some heads at Lucasfilm, specifically with the Story Group, while he was making TFA. There have never been any specifics come out about it just some faint admissions that it wasn't always harmonious working with him. Him being asked back to direct 9 was a little surprising to me for that reason alone but I guess it shows how averse Kennedy has become to relatively unproven quantities where directors are concerned.
 
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Gavinmad

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unproven quantities where directors are concerned.

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Xarpolis

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I saw this again tonight and noticed something at the very end that I didn't see previously.

After all was said and done, Luke dies and all that, the 3 casino kids are sitting on the ground playing with match stick men, saying luke skywalker and shit. Then the grown up runs in and tells them to get to work.
The boy that was given the Rebel ring runs out front to sweep up, and puts his hand near the broom and the force pulls the broom to his hand.

So there's that.
 
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Royal

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In the days of the Jedi Order that's how kids became suspected of being force sensitive. They'd do things via the force like that without even realizing it. Someone would witness it and in many cases the jedi would be contacted and send someone to investigate or test the child.
 

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If a kid from a worthless part of a shitty Star Wars movie force pulls a broom and nobody is there to see it...
 
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Caliane

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In the days of the Jedi Order that's how kids became suspected of being force sensitive. They'd do things via the force like that without even realizing it. Someone would witness it and in many cases the jedi would be contacted and send someone to investigate or test the child.
I am pretty sure it was suggested, that its just people/kids preternaturally good at things. "super lucky." not actually displaying powers.
 

Royal

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I am pretty sure it was suggested, that its just people/kids preternaturally good at things. "super lucky." not actually displaying powers.

In the Ahsoka novel she got confirmation of a kid who she had suspected was force sensitive when she saw her making pebbles float. I wouldn't assume that to be an isolated incident. Though many families did summon the jedi for testing a child purely as a shot in the dark, hoping they would end up being proven to be force sensitive.
 
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kegkilla

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I saw this again tonight and noticed something at the very end that I didn't see previously.

After all was said and done, Luke dies and all that, the 3 casino kids are sitting on the ground playing with match stick men, saying luke skywalker and shit. Then the grown up runs in and tells them to get to work.
The boy that was given the Rebel ring runs out front to sweep up, and puts his hand near the broom and the force pulls the broom to his hand.

So there's that.
Big if true
 
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Muligan

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I think every variation of Star Wars media has evidence of force sensitive children. Though maybe not specific or consistent from one example to the next, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. The fact that there was a school full of younglings, process for screening children, midiclorian counts and records, and a desired age to train (Yoda discussed age on a couple of occasions) all lends itself to force children popping up all over the place. Yoda also mentioned that he had trained Jedi for thousands (?) of years and we know that he prefers them to be very young before they develop certain emotional and personality traits.
 
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Royal

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I think every variation of Star Wars media has evidence of force sensitive children. Though maybe not specific or consistent from one example to the next, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. The fact that there was a school full of younglings, process for screening children, midiclorian counts and records, and a desired age to train (Yoda discussed age on a couple of occasions) all lends itself to force children popping up all over the place. Yoda also mentioned that he had trained Jedi for thousands (?) of years and we know that he prefers them to be very young before they develop certain emotional and personality traits.

And far more children were confirmed to be force sensitive than actually entered into training as jedi. One of TCW story arcs was centered around Cad Bane stealing the Jedi Temple record of confirmed force sensitives who had not gone on to become younglings.
 

kegkilla

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I think every variation of Star Wars media has evidence of force sensitive children. Though maybe not specific or consistent from one example to the next, it leaves a lot of room for interpretation. The fact that there was a school full of younglings, process for screening children, midiclorian counts and records, and a desired age to train (Yoda discussed age on a couple of occasions) all lends itself to force children popping up all over the place. Yoda also mentioned that he had trained Jedi for thousands (?) of years and we know that he prefers them to be very young before they develop certain emotional and personality traits.
Thing is, Anakin and Luke were two of the strongest Wakandans of all time with the force and we never saw them using the force to that extent without training. Anakin we see some of his potential in the fact that he can pod race, and Luke shows us essentially nothing despite being like 20 years. At the minimum, it undermines the importance of the master in shaping the abilities of a Jedi, though Rey's bullshit plot has already shit all over that, so I guess it doesn't matter. Since the Disney shit is glorified fan faction, it's best not to think too much about what makes sense.
 
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kegkilla

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People actually missed him pulling the broom like that? It was just one more big eye roll moment. He definitely force pulled it toward his hand.
No, I'm mocking him for coming to us with this like its breaking news when it's been discussed ad nauseum.
 
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Caliane

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People actually missed him pulling the broom like that? It was just one more big eye roll moment. He definitely force pulled it toward his hand.
people also seemed to have missed the Jedi text being on the Falcon at the end, and not burned up.
 
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