Brahma
Obi-Bro Kenobi-X
- 12,689
- 47,481
Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker
- Thread starter pharmakos
- Start date
-
Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Vanessa
Uncle Tanya
- 7,689
- 1,417
There's still nothing, NOTHING stopping Rey herself from being a Skywalker (or Kenobi at the very least). Taking Kylo's explanation of her origins as gospel is silly. Of course, it kinda begs the question if she's a Skywalker why Luke doesn't simply tell her "you're my daughter" or whatever, unless...................... he never knew himself. After all, it took Vader telling him face to fucking face that he was his son and a fucking ghost to tell him who his sister was; Obviously Luke's force powers doesn't give him special privy into "feeling" who his family is via the force. Which leads me to:
I'm gonna laugh sooo hard when it's revealed that Rey has a twin; not a fraternal twin like Luke & Leia were, but an identical twin (named... Fay, let's call her). Fay was in the ship that left Rey on her planet because her mom or guardian wanted to protect the kids just as grandma Padme did to Luke and Leia. Fay was discovered and turned to the dark side Sith early on and was trained by Palpatine and Rey was the light side Jedi trained by Luke. Kylo (and Snoke as his master, RIP in peace) are just the imbalance of the force... that's why Kylo was tormented between the light AND the dark. People want to make Snoke "be someone" and maybe that's just it. He's just a powerful dude who was strong in the force and walked the line between both the light and the dark side too.
So obviously due to this teaser the retards are all like, "Oooooh Rey goes dark!" but rational people are like "Nah, that's just a Dagobah-esque shithole hallucination, or vision or something; Rey won't turn and this is just Disney doing the card-trick equivalent of misdirection", but maaaybe it's not Rey at all but Fay! So what's the ultimate face-off here? Rey faces Fay and Kylo faces Palpatine and yay, the good guys win again. God, I could almost be a writer for Disney myself it's so stupid!
It would fit with the current social culture of everything being a spectrum instead of being hard lines/truth too. That's what sort of separated the old school Star Wars force users from this newfangled shit... force users were kinda born into it and "privileged". TLJ turned that on its head and showed that any schlep with a broom could be force sensitive (which I think is lame) but it seems to fit into Disney's woke mantra that the force isn't just good (blue sabers) and bad (red sabers) but can be a mixture of both.
I.E. the force is a tranny and that's why y'all hate Star Wars. (LMAO JKJK) Either way you slice it, I'm tired of this franchise like everyone else is and it's really sad it's come to this... I'm still scared my beloved MCU is next to go down the shitter.
I'm gonna laugh sooo hard when it's revealed that Rey has a twin; not a fraternal twin like Luke & Leia were, but an identical twin (named... Fay, let's call her). Fay was in the ship that left Rey on her planet because her mom or guardian wanted to protect the kids just as grandma Padme did to Luke and Leia. Fay was discovered and turned to the dark side Sith early on and was trained by Palpatine and Rey was the light side Jedi trained by Luke. Kylo (and Snoke as his master, RIP in peace) are just the imbalance of the force... that's why Kylo was tormented between the light AND the dark. People want to make Snoke "be someone" and maybe that's just it. He's just a powerful dude who was strong in the force and walked the line between both the light and the dark side too.
So obviously due to this teaser the retards are all like, "Oooooh Rey goes dark!" but rational people are like "Nah, that's just a Dagobah-esque shithole hallucination, or vision or something; Rey won't turn and this is just Disney doing the card-trick equivalent of misdirection", but maaaybe it's not Rey at all but Fay! So what's the ultimate face-off here? Rey faces Fay and Kylo faces Palpatine and yay, the good guys win again. God, I could almost be a writer for Disney myself it's so stupid!
It would fit with the current social culture of everything being a spectrum instead of being hard lines/truth too. That's what sort of separated the old school Star Wars force users from this newfangled shit... force users were kinda born into it and "privileged". TLJ turned that on its head and showed that any schlep with a broom could be force sensitive (which I think is lame) but it seems to fit into Disney's woke mantra that the force isn't just good (blue sabers) and bad (red sabers) but can be a mixture of both.
I.E. the force is a tranny and that's why y'all hate Star Wars. (LMAO JKJK) Either way you slice it, I'm tired of this franchise like everyone else is and it's really sad it's come to this... I'm still scared my beloved MCU is next to go down the shitter.
- 3
TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
- 43,188
- 110,692
That kind of misdirection is terrible writing and fucking stupid. Not that there isn't plenty of that going around already or anything. Everything about Vader was mysterious. One of the few alive who knew the ways of the Jedi. Most of the Empire had no idea he was Anakin Skywalker. They only knew he and the Emperor followed their, "sorcerer's ways." He was menacing, mysterious and extremely skilled. Which is why the I Am Your Father reveal was so strong.
Kylo, son of Leia Skywalker and Han Solo telling a bitch you're nobody. No wait, you're actually my sister. Psyche! Obi Wan Kenobi took an effort to separate Leia and Luke at birth because of their corrupted father. So... Rey was living alone in the desert why exactly? Ah, we just misplaced her at birth ya see.
Kylo, son of Leia Skywalker and Han Solo telling a bitch you're nobody. No wait, you're actually my sister. Psyche! Obi Wan Kenobi took an effort to separate Leia and Luke at birth because of their corrupted father. So... Rey was living alone in the desert why exactly? Ah, we just misplaced her at birth ya see.
- 1
Caliane
Avatar of War Slayer
- 15,594
- 11,909
25min vid on 1 min of new footage. Hey they kept it short this time.
- 3
Angerz
Trakanon Raider
- 1,260
- 854
This is a problem that goes back to the prequels and I think stems from the narrow view the movies take compared to the average person in the galaxy. A New Hope takes place roughly 2 decades after Revenge of the Sith, yet people refer to the Force as hocus pocus and a hokey old religion, people who would have grown up in the world where the Jedi Order was at it's peak. If you're going to participate in any conversation about the Star Wars Galaxy that doesn't assume the whole thing ended in 1984, you really have to assume the average population of the galaxy is in some combination of not knowing or not caring what happens in the core worlds.
Jedi are a myth, they've probably never heard of Vader other than some guy you don't want in your system and the Emperor is the guy who replaced that Supreme Chancellor asshole who replaced the big group of assholes who never did anything for them anyway. Get up, collect moisture, drink blue milk, go to bed, repeat. That's their lives. Star Wars is the story of 12 or so people in a galaxy of trillions. We have no idea about them, but, if their dialogue is to make any sense, most of them have no idea what things are really like at the top of the food chain and the frontlines of a Civil War they probably don't give a shit about.
- 1
Runnen
Vyemm Raider
- 1,868
- 4,566
That's something some books have developped quite well, showing the perspective of Joe Average in the galaxy, and it's part of what made Rogue One so compelling to me, it was a war story with soldiers, blasters, grenades and zero super powers. And that's also why Vader's scene at the end of it had so much impact.
Another facet that's never been explored in the movies is that the Force has very different uses in different regions of the galaxy. On some planets, it's used for sorcery by evil cults but without any Sith philosophy behind it, hell the Chiss use force-sensitive children as Dune Guild Navigators to find their way through the Unknown Regions since the whole region is uncharted (duh). The recent Thrawn books really build upon that, especially the latest one.
After The Force Awakens I thought that if Rey was a clone of Anakin it would explain a lot of things. Palpatine coming back in some form maybe opens up that possibility again. That could save this S*&tshow for me, maybe...
Muurloen
Pronouns: zie/zhem/zer
- 13,943
- 39,689
Gavinmad
Mr. Poopybutthole
- 43,927
- 52,682
Isn't it just Han who says that? I mean they clearly know who the Jedi are on Tatooine during Phantom Menace, and who they were on Lothal at the beginning of Rebels. Both planets are outer rim backwaters, although Lothal is a quite a bit more civilized than Tatooine. So they've either deliberately chosen to retcon that or Han's opinion doesn't reflect that of the galaxy at large.
Tatooine is hardly representative of the typical settled planet in the Star Wars galaxy. It's an absolute armpit even by outer rim standards.
Malakriss
Golden Baronet of the Realm
- 12,732
- 12,023
At the end of Ep 3 the number of jedi dropped from thousands down to less than 100 (made up conservative estimate) and in the following 15 years up to the Rebels cartoon they established that they hunted down any straggler jedi and the remaining number of lightsaber wielders on all sides was ~10 total. That number was further reduced during the series and the only remaining active force user was Vader (as stated by Tarkin in Ep 4) with Obi-wan and Yoda in hiding / Ezra and Ahsoka are missing.
There should have been an extra decade or so in between 3 and 4 but even with the timeline they used Solo and the post-war generation went their adult lives without any contact at all by force users / lightsaber users.
There should have been an extra decade or so in between 3 and 4 but even with the timeline they used Solo and the post-war generation went their adult lives without any contact at all by force users / lightsaber users.
Caliane
Avatar of War Slayer
- 15,594
- 11,909
Fucker
Log Wizard
- 13,089
- 30,054
Never misunderstimate the power of a fully functional galactic candle light vigil and thoughts & prayers festival.
Conefed
Blackwing Lair Raider
- 2,850
- 1,702
Chukzombi
Millie's Staff Member
- 73,141
- 214,428
Chris
Potato del Grande
- 19,661
- -10,588
Wow they managed to spoil a major plot point TWICE!?
It being a clone or her past self was an interesting possibility.
- 1