StarCraft 2

crux0724_sl

shitlord
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It does seem like Flash should have made a few tanks based on how aggressive Life was playing.

Oh well, when is the next big tourney start? Gsl?
 

Zehnpai

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You know, that's one viscous cycle. Fans bitch about every matchup being the same and stale, mapmakers make unique maps to force players to think outside the box, players bitch about having to learn new strats/builds, map makers go back to making every map a 3-base snore fest, fans bitch...
 

bayr_sl

shitlord
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tvt remains the most interesting and challenging match up in SC2. The coolest addition I saw in the games was widow mines, which basically just step all over the toes of tanks and makes them an even worse option in most situations

Terran is cool, every other race is virtually identical to what it was in wol. I think it's a slight step up from WoL but still a bad game and looks more like a $40 patch
 

Zaphid

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You know, that's one viscous cycle. Fans bitch about every matchup being the same and stale, mapmakers make unique maps to force players to think outside the box, players bitch about having to learn new strats/builds, map makers go back to making every map a 3-base snore fest, fans bitch...
TBH after playing like 30-40 ladder games over the weekend, the ladder map pool is pretty close to perfect. The only retarded map ATM is the in base natural with the wide ramp, PvP is unplayable on it. Vestige is a breath of fresh air, CK and Daybreak are balanced and perfect candidates for solid maps in a new game. Planet S has no watchtowers making map control really important, Whirlwind and Akilon are great macro maps. Newkirk is made for harass. If you are going to use a single build regardless of map, you are playing the game wrong. Hardly 3base macrofests only.
 

Zaphid

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Use the thread in the competitive gaming subforum for asking advice and posting replays.
With the recent surge in popularity we could probably use another thread for discussing actual ladder play instead, because that one thread is full of esports news and event discussion.
 

Gorehack

Lord Nagafen Raider
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I think the campaign would have had an edge more difficulty if Kerrigan wasn't OP as fuck.

I never made a single unit that could attack fliers, because she fucking raped everything. Mass zerglings and ultras won the campaign with complete ease.
 

Quineloe

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Zerg dominate WoL. Zerg dominating HotS. /sigh

I agree about the widow mine play. Why not get some tanks, they'll do so much better against all this ling/bling play imo.
that would actually force the Terran to get Gas from all his expos and make it impossible to play a game with 180 supply for army and rest for mules for income.

I think as Terran uses bio exclusively for 90% of his game balance will be pretty hard to come by.

You know, that's one viscous cycle. Fans bitch about every matchup being the same and stale, mapmakers make unique maps to force players to think outside the box, players bitch about having to learn new strats/builds, map makers go back to making every map a 3-base snore fest, fans bitch...
The thing with that vicious cycle is that fans don't need the players, but the players need the fans. If view counts drop because all the games are the same, that's less money the players will see.
 

Tenks

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I voted away Korhal and Planet S. I don't think Planet S is a bad map exactly but I don't have enough time to have a build dedicated to that map and my standard TvZ build of 3cc doesn't work on that map.
 

Tenks

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I love how Nony, the "Chilltoss" refuses to GG this guy and got so pissed that he danced Stalkers in his base Nony put him on ignore after saying "glhf" the next game together lol
 

Zaphid

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Nony is as BM as Idra, it's just that people looked the other way due to the Liquid name. Still the guy has interesting ideas, while not good enough for top level play, he can teach a lot every master player and below, so it's good to keep tabs on him.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8197652564Dayvie commenting on balance, seems about right for now.

Just wanted to let you know that our design team is watching every major match carefully and will continue doing so.

Some things we're noticing are:

- The super aggressive play is turning out to be really fun to watch.

- Nobody is close to figuring the game out yet.

- A few players are really changing up their play and having completely different results than what's expected by the majority.

- Some of the initial balance concerns do seem to be continuing in games whereas the more creative players aren't struggling as much against them.

Some things we're thinking of going forward:

- We'll try our best to not be too quick to make judgments on things that are allowing players to play a much more aggressive game. For example, yes Medivacs look strong but it's forcing even the opponents to play aggressive and the constant action throughout the game is looking to be really fun to watch.

- We'll continue watching all the pro and community concerns, but keep in mind we'd really like the game to settle before we step in and make a move.
 

Tenks

Bronze Knight of the Realm
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I'm attempting to write a Java program that will basically scrape your screen if you're watching a SC2 stream and be able to output the build order from the screen. We'll see if this goes anywhere but to shit town.
 

Fight

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I have completed two play-through's now, one on Normal and the other Brutal (stumbling into about 75% of the achievement completions in the process). I am utterly disappointed with this expansion. Even on Brutal, this game in mind-numbingly easy. The story and most of the cut-scenes are cringe worthy. The alien voices are like nails on a chalkboard. I was hopeful that Wing's of Liberty might be the weakest entry in the series, but the way things are shaping up, it might end up being the best.

We waited 3 years for this. Seriously, 3 years for this product is a joke. If you still play SC2 online, well then you have to buy this lackluster package, but if you are a casual fan that plays the single-player missions, SKIP IT.

Blizzard is no longer the company you once knew.
 

Noodleface

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I'm attempting to write a Java program that will basically scrape your screen if you're watching a SC2 stream and be able to output the build order from the screen. We'll see if this goes anywhere but to shit town.
I'll work on the bot that takes those build orders and executes them perfectly with extreme timing every time
 

Breakdown

Gunnar Durden
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As a stand alone game, I like it. Story is OK ish but when framed with the story of Wings of Liberty its shit.

Basically what this game did was wipe out all that was done in Wings and so now really all that happened in wings was learning of an ancient threat setting up the final game. And some shit with the dominion.

Fast forward and this shits on the first one and finishes the job.