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Yeah my bad sorry for ruining your black panther party.

It is interesting to think how the internet has fucking ruined these kind of control mechanisms and sent the multiple industries scrambling. It would be awesome if it hadn't effectively concentrated all of that control in a few tech companies. I guess we're mostly just lucky that censorship is a liberal conspiracy theory and that these tech companies will exercise the best editorial control to suit their market purposes.
 
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Caliane

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still havent heard about what was censored. oh wow, the most beloved era in comic book history was under the comic book code? oh wow, all the top superhero movies were based on those same "censored" comics? wait, all the shit comic movies come from the "looser" era? how can this be? nah, it has to be this code that somehow stopped creativity because i couldnt see plastic man's cock grow 20 meters in a comic panel when i was 10 years old. this code was nothing but a placebo for parents so they would allow Little Timmy to read them. if there was no code and it was a freeforall that it is now. then Little Timmy wouldnt have read shit and the comic book industry would have collapsed in the 60s instead of right now when everything is stunning and brave.

when i was starting at my first job in the 90s . i worked 2 doors down from a comic book shop. my boss was a mom and her kids would ask her all the time to get them different comics. i remember one time she came up to me in a bad mood and she told me that the comic book guy called her a prude because she yelled at him about selling comics to kids with all kinds of gore on the cover. i guess she wanted me to tell her she wasnt a prude, i really couldnt care less. i was getting my Batman Dark Knight comics from there on the regular and they were pretty tame in comparison, but they were decent stories, the gory comics were just a gimmick to lure kids into buying them because edgy. so i said, nah, you cool. those comics suck and i wouldnt buy them even as an adult. needless to say. little Mathew didnt get his Leatherface comic or whateverfuck it was back then.
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how can you not be aware the CCA killed the comics industry? Everything that was not Superheroes died. Westerns, romance, horror, war comics, all dead.

It was voluntary, as stated, in that retailers and distributors would not sell or distribute comics, without the seal. Small print in cities, and direct market keep a few things around.
Marvel ended it, when Stan got tired of the BS. and said, fuck it, "heres a story with Harry Osborne addicted to drugs. are you going to stop selling Spiderman? no you fucking arn't. also, Tony stark is an alcholic. what are you going to do about it? nothing."
 
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Caliane said:
how can you not be aware the CCA killed the comics industry? Everything that was not Superheroes died. Westerns, romance, horror, war comics, all dead.

It was voluntary, as stated, in that retailers and distributors would not sell or distribute comics, without the seal. Small print in cities, and direct market keep a few things around.
Marvel ended it, when Stan got tired of the BS. and said, fuck it, "heres a story with Harry Osborne addicted to drugs. are you going to stop selling Spiderman? no you fucking arn't. also, Tony stark is an alcholic. what are you going to do about it? nothing."
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I never heard of it, but that is one of the strangest things I've read all year. The idea of little Jimmy getting corrupted by a comic book is a laughable notion. That the CCA was an actual thing makes me smack my forehead.
 
Caliane

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I never heard of it, but that is one of the strangest things I've read all year. The idea of little Jimmy getting corrupted by a comic book is a laughable notion. That the CCA was an actual thing makes me smack my forehead.
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the repercussions are still with us today. and in no small part of the final death of comics now. Sure the 90's boom made people rich on superheroes and shit. but... again, those other genres never came back. Comic readership stayed among itself, and never actually grew. Now everyone is reading manga that actually has other genres, instead of the same superheroes comics over and over.
 
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There's a big independent scene with those sorts of comics now. Almost a hundred years later and multiple world changing technologies later. But it's nothing compared to the asian scenes. And nothing compared to what it could be. Even mainstream sales are a fraction of what they once were, I have no idea how comic shops are staying in business, pokemon and shit I guess. The independent comics I did read recently I stopped, erratic publishing schedules (much like the old days) and marketing bullshit like Valiant does restarting different series every 10 issues or so, it's just not great.
 
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chaos said:
There's a big independent scene with those sorts of comics now. Almost a hundred years later and multiple world changing technologies later. But it's nothing compared to the asian scenes. And nothing compared to what it could be. Even mainstream sales are a fraction of what they once were, I have no idea how comic shops are staying in business, pokemon and shit I guess. The independent comics I did read recently I stopped, erratic publishing schedules (much like the old days) and marketing bullshit like Valiant does restarting different series every 10 issues or so, it's just not great.
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Don't they sell everything else and a tiny selection of comics? The one big shop in my old stomping grounds sold all kinds of things, not just comics. They started out as a comic store (comics was in their name), but seemed to have mainly sold other things the few times I went there.
 
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Don't they sell everything else and a tiny selection of comics? The one big shop in my old stomping grounds sold all kinds of things, not just comics. They started out as a comic store (comics was in their name), but seemed to have mainly sold other things the few times I went there.
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I've only been in a few the past 20 years and each one was either a game store or collectible store that just happen to have comics. I was in a pretty good one in Florida that has tons of comics, but the store really focused on competitive card games and collectibles, the comics made up the entire back of the store. But real estate's cheap there, in DC that same store would never fly. The stores I went to as a kid really focused on the comics but those places are all gone now.

I actually just looked it up, one of the first comic stores I ever went to in Texas is still around, just moved locations, still focuses on comics (with some used books). That's pretty cool to see, dying breed though.
 
Chukzombi

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Caliane said:
how can you not be aware the CCA killed the comics industry? Everything that was not Superheroes died. Westerns, romance, horror, war comics, all dead.

It was voluntary, as stated, in that retailers and distributors would not sell or distribute comics, without the seal. Small print in cities, and direct market keep a few things around.
Marvel ended it, when Stan got tired of the BS. and said, fuck it, "heres a story with Harry Osborne addicted to drugs. are you going to stop selling Spiderman? no you fucking arn't. also, Tony stark is an alcholic. what are you going to do about it? nothing."
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i'm not getting into implementation. i'm talking about why shit happened. people want to believe it was "the man" wanting to keep you down and censor Tony Stark's alcohol addiction. turns out "the man" was actually just overprotective moms, like it always is. overprotective moms are why we have warning labels on movies, TV, music, comic books and video games. if moms didnt have shit to worry about then they would invent something. moms are also a huge puchase demo. gotta keep the money happy.
 
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Not interested.

Back on the thread this movie in a way kind of reminds me of Batman Begins,except darker it had it's own style and visuals, but it was dropped in the other two movies.
 
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looks good, supposed to be more a detective movie than another boring "my parents are DEEEAAAAAD" origins story - think Noir se7en or other serial killer vibe sort of movie. The Riddler is the bad guy I think.

It is allegedly clocking in a bit under 3 hours but hopefully gets shortened down a bit.

3/4/22
 
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Looks pretty good. I don’t like that they made Catwoman look like the comic book version. Zoey Kravitz looks awful with that short hair.
 
Chukzombi

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looks comical. this isnt a parody, right? best i can say is that at least the cinematography department didnt fuck off when they were supposed to be doing their job.
 
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