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Did a little digging and found more info on stupid beer laws in Oklahoma: If a brewery wants to sell their own beer on premise they must sell that beer to a distributor and rebuy it from the distributor. In some cases the beer never even leaves the brewery so they basically pay the distributors an extortion fee. Also in OK any place that sells packaged beer isn't allowed to refrigerate the beer. Some styles (such as IPA) quickly deteriorate when stored at room temperature. Some other things I found in quickly browsing (one could spend all day finding stupid alcohol laws in this country should they desire too...):

-Alabama: In state breweries can only package in kegs.

-Florida: Brewpubs cannot produce MORE than 5,000 bbls a year. Breweries cannot sell "growlers" filled from the tap (but can sell either 32oz or 128oz containers filled from the tap).

-Louisiana: Beer produced in this state must be below 6% ABV

-Utah: Any beer above 4% is considered a liquor.

-Vermont: Any beer with a specific gravity below 1.009 is considered a spirit.

Just a few quick examples of some red tape.
 
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Abita in Louisiana produces beer with greater than 6% ABV, unless there are particulars that I'm completely overlooking.

Arkansas seems to have opened up lately with more and more places having growler stations, we have in state liquor distilleries, and a few more local / micros as well. Still isn't great and there still isn't anywhere that imports 75% of the stuff you guys post and suggest to try.
 
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Intrinsic_sl said:
Abita in Louisiana produces beer with greater than 6% ABV, unless there are particulars that I'm completely overlooking.
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The source I was using is from 2013 and wasn't very detailed. Laws could have relaxed and/or there could be some exceptions to the rules.
 
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I'm just gonna drop this here for anyone who wants to go to beer week in SF and lives close any of the airports in NYC:

http://www.theflightdeal.com/2015/01...#ixzz3PTfDTPk9

$64 round trip from NY to SF if you fly on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Saturday. Why are JetBlue and SF beer week taunting me? I can't get time off on such short notice.
 
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I'm just gonna drop this here for anyone who wants to go to beer week in SF and lives close any of the airports in NYC:

http://www.theflightdeal.com/2015/01...#ixzz3PTfDTPk9

$64 round trip from NY to SF if you fly on a Tuesday, Wednesday or Saturday. Why are JetBlue and SF beer week taunting me? I can't get time off on such short notice.
 
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Khane_sl said:
4 years ago I woulda said West Coast is shit for beer because I hated hoppy beer. I acclimated myself because I was missing out and now I love it. Can't get enough hops. So I agree now.
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Super IPAs are over now, everyone is back to making a more balanced beer that's actually tolerable now.

I just got back from a trip to AZ and I forgot how terrible life is away from OR. Bars had five selections, bud, bud light, coors light, shock top and then maybe four peaks kiltlifter. It was awful.
 
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opiate82_sl said:
The source I was using is from 2013 and wasn't very detailed. Laws could have relaxed and/or there could be some exceptions to the rules.
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Oh sure, not saying you were wrong or anything. I'd be more interested in the work arounds anyway because who really follows all the red tape. Or, more to the point, the ones that have the money to circumvent the red tape.

Been trying different stuff from Honey Goat and had the Black Vanilla IPA last weekend. Don't really drink IPAs often but it was enjoyable. Kind of getting irritated with Evil Twin and others that are releasing like 50 different beers. A couple seem to do well with their yearly rotations and a nice scheduled of seasonals, but then others just seem to shotgun the whole thing and release as many styles as possible.
 
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Missouri is finally coming up to snuff in the craft beer department(Boulevard, Mothers, Schlafly, O'Fallon), laws preventing microbreweries were relaxed in the late 80s/90s after Anheuser-Busch had a stranglehold on the state and it's government for a good 100+ years.

AB still has a pretty good stranglehold on St Louis as a whole, whether it's real or just tradition at this point. I was in St Louis last weekend and was at a brewpub that makes their own beer(not sold in stores, 6-7 different kinds from a dubbel to a red ale to a stout, good variety) and I swear to god, 2/3 of the people there were drinking bud or bud light with their meals. /boggle. And it wasn't because of the price, everything they had on tap(even their own brews) was a reasonable $3 per pint.
 
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2015 Craft Beer Release Calendars @ PorchDrinking.com

A few notables from the link:

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So, I couldn't sleep last night and decided to compile a spreadsheet of beers that have been recommended in the thread. Had to make a few decisions on how to go about it, which are basically:

  • Tried to only include beers that had at least 2 - 3 replies around it and not just one offs. There are still going to be a few single mentions that are either included or missing, but that comes down to missing them in all the text and trying to read every post in 27 pages, and just trying to limit the list from having every beer ever brewed.
  • Also tried to at least limit some of the extremely limited distribution, one time brews, and rares, but there's probably quite a few that snuck through.
  • Used the links to BeerAdvocate because it was usually the first thing that came up in Google, so I don't care if you like RateBeer or something else instead, it is just kind of there for info.
  • Originally I had used kind of a 'parent' category to describe the style of beer (i.e. all Stouts were just "Stout" and all IPAs were just "IPA") but then I figured Khane would throw a fit so went back and classified it based on the websites category. Might make sorting a little more finiky.
  • Was going to add a link to each Brewery's website, if they had one, and still might.
  • Tried to add a column for 'Recommendations' and either link it to the post, poster, postee, postette that made the suggestion, but that was dumb. At least you could see if Duppin recommended one vs. McCheese vs. Alex, etc... so if you hated a particular poster or your tastes seemed to match someone's. Eh.

Anyways, it was more for my information because I'm constantly at the store with no idea what to try and wanted a reference. Might play with it some more but otherwise will try to update it as the thread continues.

Rerolled Beer List
 
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lol, that is one way to spend your time. Probably way more research than is worth doing but being able to tag each beer with the states they distribute to would be a cool sort feature.
 
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Should get some west coasters to recommend some cascading dark ales. Not that they are available pretty much anywhere but the west coast, but I've never had a bad one (And I've got a huge sample size of like... 3)
 
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opiate82_sl said:
lol, that is one way to spend your time. Probably way more research than is worth doing but being able to tag each beer with the states they distribute to would be a cool sort feature.
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Kind of a reverse lookup, but I found this site:

SeekABrew US Distribution Map

Database says it was last updated 12-08-2014 so it seems to be pretty recent.

edit: actually you can select a brewey from the dropdown at the top of the U.S. map and it will show you all the states they distribute to. Missed that the 1st look.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Should get some west coasters to recommend some cascading dark ales. Not that they are available pretty much anywhere but the west coast, but I've never had a bad one (And I've got a huge sample size of like... 3)
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Strangely enough I don't find a whole lot of these on the shelves either up in the PNW. They are usually brewery-only releases. The one I can find on the shelves regularly that I like a lot is by Oakshire Brewing out of Eugene, OR but I'm not sure how far they distribute. I tried brewing my own but it turned into an astringent mess. Going to give it another shot now that I have a better idea on which dark grains to use (or more specifically, not use). It is a surprisingly hard style to brew.
 
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Khane_sl said:
Should get some west coasters to recommend some cascading dark ales. Not that they are available pretty much anywhere but the west coast, but I've never had a bad one (And I've got a huge sample size of like... 3)
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Cascadian Dark Ales (Black IPA)
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