Cirny stated they started development on the PS4 in 2008 so the PS4 has had quite a head start whereas the Xbone started in late 2010. I bet the negative developer sentiment to the PS3 made them start early on a successor. And I don't blame them. Guess MS was content to rest on their laurels but got bit in the ass when they say the PS4 was coming to fruition.
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I kind of feel like Sony are in the position where this generation they HAVE to be successful or they are pretty much screwed.(in the gaming department) They are willing to take a hit on profit margin for a longer term profit.. Just a thought could be wrong.
I don't know... is there any component in the PS4 that would really drive up the price? Seem like fairly standardized components to me. I don't think they're willing to take as much a loss as they did with the PS3.
They can't afford to take a PS3 style loss even if they wanted to - Sony has been taking catastrophic losses on all fronts for the last few years.
From what's been said they aren't taking a loss at all on the hardware (and can't due to the financial situation of Sony). Supposedly it's estimated to cost about 325 per unit to produce and they make about 50 bucks off of it.
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You live in KC where no one has money, when I lived in Phoenix the line for any system release was easily 30+ and probably 100+ outside of best buy. I could see 130 systems selling out in a heartbeat now in Portland, I think there are only 4 reasonable close game stops.
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That's Best Buy. Best Buys inventory is VASTLY different than Gamestop. When I worked for Gamestop, we had about 20 stores in 2 districts across the KC metro area. Best Buy had 5. Of course Best Buy is going to have 100+ systems, you can't even compare the two. Your average Best Buy did more gross sales in 1 day than all 26 of our Gamestops did. Best Buy stores are orders of magnitude larger than Gamestop and built to service MUCH larger geographical areas. When I worked for Gamestop, a store that did a million dollars in sales in 1 YEAR was considered a busy store (only about half our stores in KC did that at the time), thats a slow week for a Best Buy. Comparing a single Best Buy store to a single Gamestop store is like comparing your local Ford dealership to some guy who is selling a used car in his driveway.
And you basically confirmed exactly what I already said about Gamestop. You saw lines of 30+ people, and thats about how many systems your average store would get. Gamestop rarely had systems to sell to the general public on launch day back then, all of our launch allocations were always sold out months before release. We just had the people who had them reserved picking them up, there was no "camp out and get a system" at our stores. The only system launch I ever saw that had systems that were available to walk-in, general public purchasers was the Dreamcast.
And you basically confirmed exactly what I already said about Gamestop. You saw lines of 30+ people, and thats about how many systems your average store would get. Gamestop rarely had systems to sell to the general public on launch day back then, all of our launch allocations were always sold out months before release. We just had the people who had them reserved picking them up, there was no "camp out and get a system" at our stores. The only system launch I ever saw that had systems that were available to walk-in, general public purchasers was the Dreamcast.
There's only one Gamestop where I live and no Best Buy, just Wal-mart/Target/Fred Meyers, and it's not a very big area, about 55k people probably. There's literally hundreds of people lined up on midnight launches of the biggest release games. I have no doubt that the system lines will be huge this November.
You worked at one back in 2004, joe, that was a lonnnng time ago and Gamestop is way the fuck bigger now. Tons of people go there for retail over any other store, especially due to all the pre-order crap they do.
You worked at one back in 2004, joe, that was a lonnnng time ago and Gamestop is way the fuck bigger now. Tons of people go there for retail over any other store, especially due to all the pre-order crap they do.
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I dont know why anyone would ever want to buy from BB. When i was at corp all we got were complaints on shortages and customers not getting what they preordered. It was one disaster after another and i learned to NEVER EVER in my life preorder anything to do with video games from there. If you want games, systems or anything of the like it should be gamestop or amazon(or another similar site) but never BB.
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Oh definitely, that's why I said it sounded like while we used to get 30ish systems back in the day, this PS4 launch should be 4-8x that many per store (probably 100-200+ systems). The PS4 launch looks like its going to blow away anything from the PS1 and PS2 generations, several times over.
Random sidenote, I do regret trading in my SNES and every Square game ever released in the US that was made for it in order to pay for my original Playstation at launch. Battle Arena Toshindin and Destruction Derby were damn fun at the time, but I wish I still had all those Square RPGs(with boxes, instructions, maps, etc)
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My parents are smart, my N64, half dozen controllers, and all my old games are still in a box at home. $$
I work for BBY and I absolutely agree, that is unless you are an employee. I pre-ordered my PS4 along with some other stuff and you better believe if it comes to me or the customer, the customer is going to have to wait.
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First high five of his life, he'll never wash that hand now. Oh, who am I kidding? He probably doesn't wash them anyways.