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Utnayan_sl said:
It goes to the other benefits of the membership. Which is why this go around I am purchasing a PS4.

Xbox Live: (For Xbone)
* Multiplayer
* Access Netflix and other content you already subscribe too
* Friendlier user interface
* Access to demos
* Cloud

PS4: Free
Access Netflix and other subscribed content
Access to friends list
Access to demos/store


Playstation Plus: (For PS4)

* Multiplayer
* Access to timed 60 minute trials of the real game
* Access to 5-6 free games per month (This month happens to be Uncharted 3, Deux Ex Revolution, X-Com, Little Big Planet, Saints Row the 3rd and some others - But they switch, and you can keep all the games from any month as long as you want. I have about 10 so far. - This is where it pays for itself automatically)
* Access to decent sales. Nothing like Marketplace on Xbox Live, but Sub-Par to Steam still. Rotating daily and they are getting better.
* Ability to share between accounts - I can use the same Playstation Plus account for VITA and PS3/4. Which means I also download free games on the Vita.
* Cloud
* Auto downloads and the ability to schedule your machine to turn on and do updates while away

I would say the biggest value are the free games. I would pay $49.99 a year just for that ability. But to roll all those other services in creates a huge value add. Adding multiplayer in there doesn't even phase me, because of all the other perks aside from that. Xbox Live's perk is they put a paywall behind free applications anywhere else, and multiplayer. There is no value there at all. And as you know, their sales are horseshit and their marketplace prices are horrendous.

Those are some pretty awesome AAA titles we get for free. I do not see Microsoft ever doing that. I have already paid for the whole year and then some just by downloading 5 games I was already going to purchase anyway. Everything else is gravy, but still pretty good features and well worth the price.

So there is a big value difference there. And Microsoft with it's TV shenanigans, is barking up the wrong tree when they think they know what value means to a console purchaser. It sure as hell isn't having an ability to check fantasy football scores while being able to switch back to a game you are playing within 2 seconds.
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I think it's probably way too early to conclude that MS isn't going to step up the offerings with Live to be more competitive with what Sony started doing w/ PSN+. The other side of that, we need to see how Sony will integrate some of their other services like the Ustream stuff, streaming of catalog titles ("backward compatibility"), etc into existing or new paid services.

Sony certainly has earned the benefit of the doubt, but I think they both have a lot to figure out and announce before launch for both paid and free services.
 
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Microsoft has reportedly stopped charging developers to update their Xbox 360 games, according to a number of sources.

Eurogamer reports that multiple developers have said Microsoft is no longer making them pay tens of thousands of dollars to patch their titles.

Until recently, Microsoft made developers pay when submitting games for certification but would then offer one title update free of charge, before making them pay for any further re-certification. This is apparently no longer the case for both Xbox Live Arcade games and full retail games.
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Cool if true, but will it be enough?
 
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If true, it is yet another sign that it is definitely possible for consumer pressure to change these companies. We don't have to just bend over and accept DRM and bullshit policies like some of the people early on in this thread seemed to think. The shit is not inevitable.
 
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X X E X X_sl said:
Cool if true, but will it be enough?
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No, not even remotely close to enough. They have to rewrite their entire policy concerning publishing, which is by far a bigger problem than the patch system (which was pretty huge though).

Not being able to self-publish and having to be "slotted in" to XBLA release dates once you were forced to find a publisher or sell your shit to Microsoft and have them publish it is what drove most Indie developers away.
 
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Utnayan_sl said:
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PS+ has definitely paid for itself many times over for me as well.

Another good thing is that for the PS4 they've confirmed that if the main account on the machine has PS+ then everyone else on it can play multiplayer for free. No extra individual PS+ accounts or family accounts required.
 
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Sean_sl said:
PS+ has definitely paid for itself many times over for me as well.

Another good thing is that for the PS4 they've confirmed that if the main account on the machine has PS+ then everyone else on it can play multiplayer for free. No extra individual PS+ accounts or family accounts required.
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Yeah, was glad to hear both consoles will be doing that.
 
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Who really plays indie games though? Almost every game I played during the 360 generation was a AAA title. Is it weird to not play all these obscure indie/import games? Is that really so common?
 
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Gaige_sl said:
Who really plays indie games though? Almost every game I played during the 360 generation was a AAA title. Is it weird to not play all these obscure indie/import games? Is that really so common?
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Not sure if serious.

Being indie doesn't mean obscure. Never heard of Minecraft? Bastion? Braid? Journey? Some of the most acclaimed titles of the past few years have been Indie games.
 
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And indie games are only going to increase in popularity. Publishers have poisoned the well and the free information flowing from the internet makes the marketing barrier for entry much lower while making production irrelevant.
 
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Sean_sl said:
Not sure if serious.

Being indie doesn't mean obscure. Never heard of Minecraft? Bastion? Braid? Journey? Some of the most acclaimed titles of the past few years have been Indie games.
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Ya, never played any of those. Heard of Minecraft of course, but it was never something I could get into.
 
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Gaige is the dictionary-definition of an Xbro. Madden and Call of Duty tunnel-vision.
 
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I don't play Call of Duty though. I prefer Battlefield and even then on PC. I played Madden, NBA 2k, Street Fighter, Tekken, UFC, WWE, Forza, Need for Speed, Assassin's Creed, Tomb Raider, MX vs ATV, Gears of War, Tiger Woods and shit mostly. Like I said, AAA titles.
 
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