The Big Bad Console Thread - Sway your Station with an Xboner !

The Ancient_sl said:

According to dictionary.com you can't make an investment in anything but profit. Point goes to khalid.

in?vest?ment
[in-vest-muhnt]
noun
1.
the investing of money or capital in order to gain profitable returns, as interest, income, or appreciation in value.
2.
a particular instance or mode of investing.
3.
a thing invested in, as a business, a quantity of shares of stock, etc.
4.
something that is invested; sum invested.
5.
the act or fact of investing or state of being invested, as with a garment.

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Unfortunately you are incorrect. That's embarrassing. I honestly thought you were a bit smarter than that.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/investment

"3. investment - the commitment of something other than money (time, energy, or effort) to a project with the expectation of some worthwhile result; "this job calls for the investment of some hard thinking"; "he made an emotional investment in the work"

Investment can be clearly used with things other then money. Investing in an Xbox with the expectation of a result. The result being me happy.

Which is dumber, paying $500 for a new system just to play Titanfall, when that new system is going to have new release games as well for the next 5-8 years, or the LARGE number of people that bought PS3s for the first time just to play Last of Us, or GTA5, knowing that the PS3 system generation was already at an end.

People buy consoles just to play 1 specific game all the time, better to do it at the beginning of the console life cycle than the end.

I'm not calling DMK dumb for buying it for one game. I bought the PS3 for one game (now two). It is a clear luxury though, not an investment.

This is the PS4 vs Xbone thread, not the "Im rich lol so I can buy whatever I want, the differences dont matter!" thread. Which would be pretty fucking boring.

joeboo_sl said:

Which is dumber, paying $500 for a new system just to play Titanfall, when that new system is going to have new release games as well for the next 5-8 years, or the LARGE number of people that bought PS3s for the first time just to play Last of Us, or GTA5, knowing that the PS3 system generation was already at an end.

People buy consoles just to play 1 specific game all the time, better to do it at the beginning of the console life cycle than the end.

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The CRAZY thing is I only said Titanfall helped me decide. I'm honestly shocked at how people are acting because someone said they are going to buy an Xbox due to no PS4's being available. People must be really struggling for cash on FOH.

Fuya_sl said:

People that want Project Spark and don't have a PC. Even though I'm getting it on PC that software alone is worth the price of the console without the need to build a high end PC. No where else can you pay 500 for a game creation tool with voice and motion caption. Sure it wont be the best motion caption out there but you still can't beat the price for that option.

I partially agree with everything else you say but Project Spark is a huge reason why someone can justify purchasing the Xbox.

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Project Spark is coming to the 360 as well.

khalid_sl said:

I'm not calling DMK dumb for buying it for one game. I bought the PS3 for one game (now two). It is a clear luxury though, not an investment.

This is the PS4 vs Xbone thread, not the "Im rich lol so I can buy whatever I want, the differences dont matter!" thread. Which would be pretty fucking boring.

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Ok. You are a bit slow so I'll be extremely obvious.

DMK_sl said:

Another deciding factor for me was Titanfall.

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fac?tor [fak-ter] Show IPA
noun
1.
one of the elements contributing to a particular result or situation.

Do you understand? I'm clearly not buying Xbox one for just one game. Even if I was your point is irrelevant. The use of the word Investment was grammatically correct. Your lack of education and poor English is the reason why you didn't understand it correctly.

Also the fact that you think I'm saying I'm rich because I can buy both console clearly indicates you are a child or poor. Buying both consoles should be easy for most grown ups. Sure there are a few with families that may struggle too(due to priorities) but most guys on here that aren't lazy and have decent careers can afford both consoles easily.

DMK_sl said:

People must be really struggling for cash on FOH.

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You still don't get it dude. No one cares that you are "rich" enough to buy a Xbone. Pretty much everyone on this forum can easily spend $500 on whatever the fuck they want, this isn't high school and everyone is out of college.

Just stop trying to justify it by saying it is an investment or that its worth the price. It isn't. If 500 for one game was worth the price, Titanfall would be retailing for something around that. It isn't, it will be $60 like pretty much all other games. If you want to spend $500 for it, that makes it by definition a luxury.

khalid_sl said:

You still don't get it dude. No one cares that you are "rich" enough to buy a Xbone. Pretty much everyone on this forum can easily spend $500 on whatever the fuck they want, this isn't high school and everyone is out of college.

Just stop trying to justify it by saying it is an investment or that its worth the price. It isn't. If 500 for one game was worth the price, Titanfall would be retailing for something around that. It isn't, it will be $60 like pretty much all other games. If you want to spend $500 for it, that makes it by definition a luxury.

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"Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience."

Forbin_sl said:

Project Spark is coming to the 360 as well.

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No one has seen the 360 version yet. Team Dakota always do their live streams on the PC and just yesterday finally on the Xbox One version. I will hold judgment on the 360 version until I've seen what it has but I can't imagine an eight year old console having the same functions as the PC/Xbone version. I will be highly impressed if they produce the same software with no difference to the PC version when the recommended requirements is a Core i7 processor along with a AMD HD8850 graphics card. Then again why would I want the lesser of the three? It's like I should just buy Fifa 14 on the PS2 and forget the PS4 version because that means I have to buy a new console. The new console will have other uses.

X X E X X_sl said:

Pretty much this, sometimes i get a tech boner and all i see is the idea of putting a new rig together full of overpriced parts i dont need, then a couple years later i'll do it again. Compared to that il drop $900 on 2 new systems they i cant upgrade or replace until the entire next gen of systems comes out is like nothing at all.

Also if you guys have time to complain how some spend their money then you should prly use that extra time to find better jobs so that money spent by others isnt worth bitching about.

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I think it's more people that need to understand how to budget.

The wife and I try to budget everything into our non-investment income being basically "retired" due to disability stuff - and with our "massive" $28k per year we make between us because we're budgeted well - we've got $1700 of flexible money in our budget a month right now. Only regular expense that comes out of the investment income is the escrow for the property taxes - everything else we've budgeted down to $850/mo. We're looking at selling this (paid off) house and moving to Florida just because and even then without spending a dime trying to pay off the new place (which we probably could in full) we could buy a new mansionesque place in Merritt Island area with a minimum down payment and still be running around with $700 flexible without even eying investment income.

And this is on $28k. But I imagine most people don't run a budget as tight as us - although I will say having the investment income as completely secondary in the background is an amazing safety net that does allow us to run it down lower than normal - we never have to create a "Oh shit" fund savings - normally can take it out of the flexible budget, but if its too big for it, it's only a 2-3 day delay getting it from the investment accounts.

Or in short: I think it's more about people budgeting things appropriately - if I on $28k can do what I do in an expensive state - people should be able to do similar elsewhere.

A very small % of the population has a home that is completely paid off(especially under the age of 60 or so, which is pretty much everyone on this board). The vast majority of us have a mortgage payment or rent. So while I'll say "good for you", your scenario doesn't apply to the vast majority of us, so it's pretty worthless.

As stated - assuming we didn't have it paid off it's still $700/mo flexible a month. That's still enough assuming you save for ONE MONTH to swing such - a triviality for most people that can budget at all. (Hell, I paid off my last car in full on purchase new - was like 2 years of saving about half of the "flexible" cash rather than dipping into the trust...)

Yea, I know not having multiple mortgages on it is a rarity - part of why I included that in afterwards to tag on. I'm personally saving for the system(s) [not cancelled XBOne a second time quite yet] $400 for this month, next and November even with our income being largely free.

Besides, I'm pretty sure the average user here is making over $40k here for their income anyhow where that $1k I save is defrayed by $1k less income a month. I don't imagine too many are making below that - so many working professionals amongst us.

DMK_sl said:

Unfortunately you are incorrect. That's embarrassing. I honestly thought you were a bit smarter than that.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/investment

"3. investment - the commitment of something other than money (time, energy, or effort) to a project with the expectation of some worthwhile result; "this job calls for the investment of some hard thinking"; "he made an emotional investment in the work"

Investment can be clearly used with things other then money. Investing in an Xbox with the expectation of a result. The result being me happy.

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I'm not incorrect. That was the definition provided by dictionary.com. The Merriam-Webster online dictionary definition was even narrower!

It was a joke. Of course you can "invest in" something besides monetary profit.

At that point, you might as well call all your spending investments. Anyway, afk guys, going to "invest" $300 at the local strip club. Its gonna rain!

Tuco_sl said:

That's why I ask people what the expected return on investment is, because the answer is inevitably, "I don't mean a real investment, I mean I'm abusing the word to sound like I'm not buying a luxury item."

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Yes, exactly.

You guys know damn well the point he is making and are just being hard on him for his wording. WoW isn't an investment either, but I wager I saved a few grand in missed dinner outings, movies, and other events.