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Droigan

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The game is at a 34% - 42% discount in most Norwegian stores now, but most expensive from the Official store. Can get it for as low as 228nkr from various retailers or 449nkr from the official store
 
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Itzena_sl

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spronk_sl said:
they have broken out before how much money the cash shop makes, especially during their charity "drives" (100% of proceeds go towards the asian storm etc) and the numbers are lower than what you might think. Yes, the cash shop is a nice little money hat but its closer to $20m/month or so, which about lines up with f2p games as well. swtor for example made $170m TOTAL ($15m/mo) last year from their cash shop, and thats a game that heavily focuses on their cash shop.

yeah we really don't know exactly how much money is made where, someone who is REALLY into it can figure it out based on digging through reports and stuff. Companies also do an accounting "trick", when you pre-order something the money is not booked right away but instead it is held in accounting reserves and used to pad revenue down the road ("deferred income"). So for example if I pre-order WoD now, Blizzard will NOT count the $60 as revenue this quarter or month, but instead wait until WoD actually ships and stuff it into that quarter, or even sometimes months or years later. Companies like Microsoft, IBM and Apple are famous for having BILLIONS in deferred revenues that can be used to massage bad quarters.

I'm sure Blizzard does something similar but end of the day the number is still $200-300m/quarter from World of Warcraft (online sub fees only not one time box sales), however you wanna fudge that around thats still between 3-4m paying US/EU subs depending on how well you think the cash shop is doing. That still makes it the biggest sub MMO around, by an order of magnitude. And that number hasn't changed much in years.

Its also pathetically bad that Blizzard makes over $300m a year in profit from wow, and its going to be over a year in between content patches AGAIN. But also explains why so many companies chase the Blizzard MMO model, if you could copy it you will make more money than every other video game studio, combined. I think most have figured out it was a fluke of timing and luck, not likely to repeat any time soon, but you still get your TESOs and Wildstars.
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Don't bother arguing with Flight, he's bitter after watching a long succession of "WoW-killers" crater out of the gate. Tinfoil-hat-grade paranoia's all he's got left.
 
Dr Neir

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Raes_sl said:
I take it you don't quite comprehend what the term "active sub" means.
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Subscriber Definition: World of Warcraft subscribers include individuals who have paid a subscription fee or have an active prepaid card to play World of Warcraft, as well as those who have purchased the game and are within their free month of access. Internet Game Room players who have accessed the game over the last thirty days are also counted as subscribers. The above definition excludes all players under free promotional subscriptions, expired or cancelled subscriptions, and expired prepaid cards. Subscribers in licensees' territories are defined along the same rules.

I will admit I was incorrect. Something I missed at the end.
Well played!

Although I dont know what happens in the event of a banned player? I have never had to worry about this but if you paid for say a year and were banned a few days later. What happens? Can you claim a refund for no service? Are they counting that as active Sub?
 
Raes

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If you are one of the rare players who pays for more than 1-3 months at a time, and got banned, you might be able to do a charge-back or whatever. That hardly matters though, unless hundreds of thousands of people are getting banned every year. You're just talking about insignificant numbers.
 
Bondurant

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Raes

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Still waiting to see if you actually had a point. But, if English isn't your first language, I can see how you might be confused.
 
Bondurant

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Raes_sl said:
Still waiting to see if you actually had a point. But, if English isn't your first language, I can see how you might be confused.
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I was just trying to make a funny comment regarding your avatar and "insignificant numbers" quote (Matrix etc), guess I'm both unfunny and obnoxious
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Tuco

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Its OK bro once I got my electron microscope out to see what was going on I got it. I also wish Rae's quoted the architects matrix speech more.
 
Raes

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Bondurant_sl said:
I was just trying to make a funny comment regarding your avatar and "insignificant numbers" quote (Matrix etc), guess I'm both unfunny and obnoxious
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Not at all. It's quite funny. I just tend to forget about my avatar, ergo, I didn't get it. Vis-a-vis confusion.
 
Raes

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I'll assume you're joking, ha ha. Just in case you're not I'll point out that I didn't choose this avatar so much as accept it. Was during a discussion in the Matrix thread.

Alkorin_sl said:
Raes is The Architect. Argues like him, too.
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Oh, ummm, blah blah this game sucks, they going F2P yet?

/derail
 
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