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Arden

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I agree, but mostly just on the last episode. For some reason Naomi and Holden were just too, I don't know, "save the world" for me. Like, the characters felt like they were just trying way too hard to be saints. It kind of annoyed me.

Now, that may be how the books were written. But something about it just seemed incredibly unrealistic.
It's the way the books are written- at least as far as Holden goes. It's unrealistic, but Holden is unrealistic- or a better word would beidealistic- that's kind of a major part of who he is. When couched in the context of the books, Holden's character isn't unrealistic at all. Everyone (including Holden eventually) realizes exactly how quixotic he is and there is a kind of general collective eye rolling from all the other realpolitik power players whenever Holden is mentioned. The other main characters (and the readers) constantly vacillate between annoyed at Holden for his idealism and admiring him for sticking to his principles and still pulling off some fantastic stuff. It ends up working out very believably inExpanseuniverse.
 

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Syfy is starting to deliver on the promise to bring the channel back to it's roots 12 Monkeys, Dark Matter, Killjoys,Expanse, and I think they signed to do Altered Carbon as well. If they keep pushing in this direction they may get some of their lost viewers back. We can hope. Also, the reason I think they seem to be quick to renew for a second season.
I can attest to the fact that my wife and I pretty much stopped watching the network not long after the name change... and we now have multiple shows from it on the DVR for accumulation. Looks like i need to go pick up these books.
 

Cybsled

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Show is excellent, but Syfy fucked up releasing it as they did. The marketing was pretty meh and they dumped it onto the network at a bad time of year. It will take some serious word of mouth to help it out ratings wise for season 2.
 

Arden

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Show is excellent, but Syfy fucked up releasing it as they did. The marketing was pretty meh and they dumped it onto the network at a bad time of year. It will take some serious word of mouth to help it out ratings wise for season 2.
It's a shame too. The books stay just as good or get better after the first and since it's a 9 book series they would have enough material to keep the show going to numerous seasons. It would suck if their bungling of the release derailed the show for good. It definitely feels like we are going to see this show on one of those "great shows that were cancelled too soon" lists several years from now.
 

Malakriss

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Shows go on hiatus for a reason, ratings would be naturally lower for virtually every show on every network. So their overall decision to start it two weeks before Christmas was dumb but at least they were smart enough to put the Christmas + New Years episodes On Demand.

I don't expect brilliant decisions from Syfy but it still did well regardless. If it was an 8pm or 9pm slot it would do even better.
 

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I'm guessing they have come to realize most (young) people don't watch season 1 of anything anymore or even live TV, and catch it all on netflix/streams later as word of mouth spreads. so getting this out early and building momentum for it the rest of this year may help with season 2.

basically its our job to be mormons for the show now

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I'm guessing they have come to realize most (young) people don't watch season 1 of anything anymore or even live TV, and catch it all on netflix/streams later as word of mouth spreads. so getting this out early and building momentum for it the rest of this year may help with season 2.

basically its our job to be mormons for the show now
aren't there already mormons on the show.
 
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Ukerric

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Yes there are ... for now!!
I did notice the switching of the priest in the Ceres-Eros shuttle for a mormon emigration candidate.

Indirect spoilage for later on season 2.
And oh boy, they're going to be pissed about the Nauvoo. In fact, they're still suing in book 3 I think...
 

Qhue

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TheExpansecame up at the SuperBowl festivities yesterday. Those of us who had watched it were praising it's virtues to those who had not...all of which had simply not heard of it. Of those that did watch I was the only one to have done so via TV including DVR
 

Caliane

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yeah. pretty good. finally starting to catch up now there are a bunch out.
lol'd a bit in episode 4.
"please, you have to help my friends, you wouldn't leave one of your own behind!" He is telling this to a guy, who was ordered to take this him, and bring him to an escape ship, and get him off the ship, to ensure, his testimony is preserved. "leaving all his friends, and crewmates behind" is literally what he is doing. They are abandoning the ship and everyone on board, to save this one guy. Of course, he and the other 4 guards all die, saving this guys crew... the only survivors are this guy and his crew...
 

Ukerric

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"please, you have to help my friends, you wouldn't leave one of your own behind!" He is telling this to a guy, who was ordered to take this him, and bring him to an escape ship, and get him off the ship, to ensure, his testimony is preserved.
He's also speaking as a former military (his background came up during the interrogation in ep3, got dishonorably discharged for assaulting a superior officer who ordered him to fire on belters) to another military.
 

Heylel

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This show came as a total surprise to me but I'm loving it. I never realized how much I was missing a good scifi show.
 

Caliane

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was really enjoying this. until the finale. kindof lost me a bit with everyone seeming to catch the stupids.

First is of course, everyone just being utterly retarded with quarantines. the entire plot revolves around Julie, being contaminated, and then taking her ship back to a heavily populated spacestation, mingling, and seeking no real help.. come on. She SAW how infectious, and fatale the shit was. why is "the thing" the only time anyone is smart enough to try and STOP the contagion from spreading?
Protag crew at least says, "oh shit, unknown contagion, back to the ship. uh, not without biohazard protocols. " Although, not exactly sure how they cleared them, considering they have no idea what that bio agent is or does. but then they go back to the station find her. and ignore all biohazard protocals THERE. enter the room, touch the body, breath the air, etc etc. "room 22. dont touch anything in there" tell some other guy to go see for himself, instead of telling him, and shutting down that room.
Then of course, everyone in charge is super clandestine, and apparently is in cahoots, and knows about the biohazard..

Ship explodes. Granted, we have a gods eye view. but, protags should be plenty fucking paranoid at this point, that a ship exploding in a hanger bay, is entirely too coincidental, 3 hours after they find the bioagent on the space station. Merc Crews giving out SHOTS, after they both find bioagent conspiracy, and a ship exploding in hanger bay...
 

Cybsled

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To be fair, none of them really understood what the fuck it was beyond the "this shit made crystals grow out of her eyes...let's not touch her". Julie touched the substance when she left her cell, but she still didn't know what the heck it was beyond the fact it seemed to have "eaten" the crew. She couldn't have known it would be an infectious agent.
 

Ukerric

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was really enjoying this. until the finale. kindof lost me a bit with everyone seeming to catch the stupids.
the entire plot revolves around Julie, being contaminated, and then taking her ship back to a heavily populated spacestation, mingling, and seeking no real help..
She SAW how infectious, and fatale the shit was.
1) She didn't know what this is (and she touches the stuff with a "what this shit?" face). Her reflex is "it's consumed everyone" as if it attacked and ate literally the Anubis crew.
2) So she doesn't know it's contagious. And that her cough is symptoms. Not until she's in that hotel room, and starts throwing up brown goo, and she's "ohhh shit".
3) She's still waiting for the OPA to make contact. It's a bioweapon. You don't give a bioweapon to everyone; only to your boss.

So basically, she hopes she's going to finish the mission. And dies.
Then of course, everyone in charge is super clandestine, and apparently is in cahoots, and knows about the biohazard..
And it was set up episodes ago. The Anubis was headed to Eros to deliver the protomolecule (what do you think is in that chest they grabbed from the Anubis, hmmm?). The gangs on Ceres had all but disappeared, recruited to get Eros in lockdown for the experiment. It just got delayed because the Anubis was intercepted, and thing went south unexpectedly.
Ship explodes. Granted, we have a gods eye view. but, protags should be plenty fucking paranoid at this point, that a ship exploding in a hanger bay, is entirely too coincidental, 3 hours after they find the bioagent on the space station.
Yep. And guess what? The first thing Miller says "it was planned". Holden: "how could they know a ship was... oh, they blew it themselves".

Side note: in the books, a transmission is intercepted by Johnson on Tycho about "samples recovered, moving to phase 3" Holden: "what's phase 3?" Miller: "Maybe nothing" alarm blares "Or maybe this".
Merc Crews giving out SHOTS, after they both find bioagent conspiracy,
Note that the crew doesn't see the Eros citizens being injected and shoved in shelters; we do.
So, you're a bit too critical, I'd say. Not that there's no stupid, there's some bad decisions made, but they're not plot-stupid, they're just bad guesses from the character.
 
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1) She didn't know what this is (and she touches the stuff with a "what this shit?" face). Her reflex is "it's consumed everyone" as if it attacked and ate literally the Anubis crew.
2) So she doesn't know it's contagious. And that her cough is symptoms. Not until she's in that hotel room, and starts throwing up brown goo, and she's "ohhh shit".
3) She's still waiting for the OPA to make contact. It's a bioweapon. You don't give a bioweapon to everyone; only to your boss.

So basically, she hopes she's going to finish the mission. And dies.

And it was set up episodes ago. The Anubis was headed to Eros to deliver the protomolecule (what do you think is in that chest they grabbed from the Anubis, hmmm?). The gangs on Ceres had all but disappeared, recruited to get Eros in lockdown for the experiment. It just got delayed because the Anubis was intercepted, and thing went south unexpectedly.

Yep. And guess what? The first thing Miller says "it was planned". Holden: "how could they know a ship was... oh, they blew it themselves".

Side note: in the books, a transmission is intercepted by Johnson on Tycho about "samples recovered, moving to phase 3" Holden: "what's phase 3?" Miller: "Maybe nothing" alarm blares "Or maybe this".

Note that the crew doesn't see the Eros citizens being injected and shoved in shelters; we do.
So, you're a bit too critical, I'd say. Not that there's no stupid, there's some bad decisions made, but they're not plot-stupid, they're just bad guesses from the character.
They also just haven't been explained in detail yet and all that explanation is good for a season 2 premiere to catch everyone up.