The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

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TrollfaceDeux

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it's not theories when it is based on soft science....his perspective is opinion, but be it based on sociology...
 
Famm

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Trollface_sl said:
it's not theories when it is based on soft science....his perspective is opinion, but be it based on sociology...
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Its still theory, but that's not the important part. The "other people's" is the emphasis there. I don't recall Leadsalad saying he was bad with social skills or whatever, but you admitted you're a virgin so you have to understand all the MRA/red pill stuff sounds a little odd when you're the source.
 
Dashel

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See what I did there?
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Yup. That is the problem. Lose a good friend, or stay in a dangerous situation. I'd like to think I'm mature enough to not do anything improper, but I always go back to "is that really wise". And really... just the pace and frequency we chat it seems improper already even though there is no physical cheating and not even real flirting.

We've always been this way though even after we stopped dating and regardless of who is or isnt in a relationship. We just click, same sense of humor, similar personalities, hobbies, tastes.

Leadsalad_sl said:
Who ended the original relationship?

Keep in mind this has been what, 10 years since then? All of the supporting evidence I've supplied leads to an obvious combination of beta boredom + hypergamerous behavior + rapidly declining SMV on her part.
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I ended it technically, but it was mutual I'd say. She was maybe 22 when we met, I think it scared her when we got really serious. I'll have to look up all the terms you mention at the end there and get back to you.



Big Phoenix_sl said:
So how many times do you think your wife has cheated on you?
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Would definitely be surprised if she did but nothing is ever certain I guess. Our problem is the cliche "lack of spark" or passion or whatever. We've been to marriage counseling a bunch of times over the past 3 years because of it.
 
TrollfaceDeux

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Famm_sl said:
Its still theory, but that's not the important part. The "other people's" is the emphasis there. I don't recall Leadsalad saying he was bad with social skills or whatever, but you admitted you're a virgin so you have to understand all the MRA/red pill stuff sounds a little odd when you're the source.
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yeah, that's true. I don't give advices here, I just hope to learn. Sorry if I intruded;;;
 
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Famm_sl said:
but you admitted you're a virgin so you have to understand all the MRA/red pill stuff sounds a little odd when you're the source.
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It's the old saying: Those who can'tdo, teach.
 
Famm

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yeah, that's true.
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I'm not personally saying either of you shouldn't voice your opinions either, I'm fine with it. Just understand people are going to get rustled like Dabamf. Which is actually great, if you can rustle him well I'll be right here with my popcorn.
 
TrollfaceDeux

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Famm_sl said:
I'm not personally saying either of you shouldn't voice your opinions either, I'm fine with it. Just understand people are going to get rustled like Dabamf. Which is actually great, if you can rustle him well I'll be right here with my popcorn.
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yeah thanks man.

Soygen_sl said:
It's the old saying: Those who can'tdo, teach.
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i dunno what teaching and advice i did here meh. I am just hoping to come out of my shell and eventually have sex someday....I am sorry man;;;I know I suck
 
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i dunno what teaching and advice i did here meh. I am just hoping to come out of my shell and eventually have sex someday....I am sorry man;;;I know I suck
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I was only making a joke. That is an old saying. I'm not hating. You're still young enough where you're not a lost cause yet.
 
TrollfaceDeux

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I was only making a joke. That is an old saying. I'm not hating. You're still young enough where you're not a lost cause yet.
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yeah, I had a lot of lost years in the past (for relationships and life in general) I need to make up for those.
 
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Young enough that if he fucks a girl half his age it's actually reprehensibly illegal instead of just being awesome.

There are benefits to being old. Few and far between, but they do exist.
 
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Obviously I've gone to extremes here, and we're far removed from all of that, but what restrictions and/or encouragements would you prefer that society impose on our biological and evolutionary imperatives? You can't just say we're all sick without offering a better solution. Well, you can, but you shouldn't.

I'm genuinely curious.
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I'm responding to Famm as well.

This is the crucial part that I think many don't understand. Every single society that has ever existed thinkstheirnorms, their values, reflect 'human nature'. A serf in the middle ages, a caveman (if he had active thought), a cowboy, a worker in the 21st century, you - all of them - thought and think their particular society best reflects or wholly expresses human nature as it is.

We think of a market structure best expressing some idea of nature's competition, natural selection, but that's just a perception, one that is applied going backwards after the market structure is instilled. It's more like a rationalization than an explanation of anything. Because it worked to a general extent in some fashion to coordinate activity on a societal level, we now apply it everywhere to everything and everybody, and when asked for reasons or comprehension as to why, we retroactively apply some argument of evolution or biology to it after the fact.

No, the best explanation is that a market structure, like any other sociopolitical organization of any society, in fact expressessomeaspects of human nature, but not even close to all. Does a market structure express empathy or compassion? It expresses, first and foremost, greed and domination.

And the problem, the social neuroses, are brought about because this is the dominant social pattern we instill into all of society's members, all of us. And what happens, from a sociological and psychological perspective, is this dominant idea of how we organize ourselves, begins to pervade our thought patterns ofevery idea. That's the neurosis. And this isn't opinionated nonsense - the evidence is clear in the language people use to describe things that have no business being described with the verbage they use: words like investment, value, markets used with regards to relationships and love.

It's a socially patterned defect in our character structure. Because everyone shares it, we don't see it as a defect - i.e., we're not 'sick' because everyone is sick.

That's the first part. How love and relationships should be... up next.
 
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Dabamf_sl said:
Will you stop posting opinions? You said yourself you don't know how to talk to girls and you have few social skills. You base your "understanding" of women on theories of other people while having zero or next to zero real experience. You dont see the problem with that?

Dashel - obviously you cannot be friends with this person. If you value your marriage, stop seeing her. Continuing to see hher will bring added stress to the marriage bc both your spouses will see it
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Who cares if he throws his 2 cents in? You were a slumming it up in a foreign country where most women throw themselves at white men; given how you had one scat all over your bed you were just taking everything you could get. Not to mention you green light trying to pick up other men's women as long as you're single; you pretty much admit you have no integrity. You're a clown.

Funny how Ham just bailed out again all together. Hard to sympathize with a faggot who has admitted to wedging himself into and breaking relationships up. And Eomer, I'm pretty sure you mentioned a few months into your new found relationship here why you were waiting for her to say she loved you before you reciprocated. The fact that you call a 4 letter word a tiny speed bump in itself just shows how you're meticulously overcomplicating stupid shit.
 
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Dumar_sl said:
I'm responding to Famm as well.

This is the crucial part that I think many don't understand. Every single society that has ever existed thinkstheirnorms, their values, reflect 'human nature'. A serf in the middle ages, a caveman (if he had active thought), a cowboy, a worker in the 21st century, you - all of them - thought and think their particular society best reflects or wholly expresses human nature as it is.

We think of a market structure best expressing some idea of nature's competition, natural selection, but that's just a perception, one that is applied going backwards after the market structure is instilled. It's more like a rationalization than an explanation of anything. Because it worked to a general extent in some fashion to coordinate activity on a societal level, we now apply it everywhere to everything and everybody, and when asked for reasons or comprehension as to why, we retroactively apply some argument of evolution or biology to it after the fact.

No, the best explanation is that a market structure, like any other sociopolitical organization of any society, in fact expressessomeaspects of human nature, but not even close to all. Does a market structure express empathy or compassion? It expresses, first and foremost, greed and domination.

And the problem, the social neuroses, are brought about because this is the dominant social pattern we instill into all of society's members, all of us. And what happens, from a sociological and psychological perspective, is this dominant idea of how we organize ourselves, begins to pervade our thought patterns ofevery idea. That's the neurosis. And this isn't opinionated nonsense - the evidence is clear in the language people use to describe things that have no business being described with the verbage they use: words like investment, value, markets used with regards to relationships and love.

It's a socially patterned defect in our character structure. Because everyone shares it, we don't see it as a defect - i.e., we're not 'sick' because everyone is sick.

That's the first part. How love and relationships should be... up next.
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i wish i could find citations for all this.
 
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Its still theory, but that's not the important part. The "other people's" is the emphasis there. I don't recall Leadsalad saying he was bad with social skills or whatever, but you admitted you're a virgin so you have to understand all the MRA/red pill stuff sounds a little odd when you're the source.
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I did say that. And I agree. But so much of this is just face to palm obvious to a complete outsider based on readily available information sources.
 
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