The Girls Who Broke Your Heart Thread

Say it during a sexual act. Please report back which sexual act you decided on as it will tell us a lot about you.

Say it while she's eating pizza.

This pizza is good.
No baby, you're good.




This whole the woman has to say it first shit... there are so many dudebro's in this thread it's fucking unreal, and usually a source of entertainment. It doesn't matter if you use long paragraphs with big words and support yourself with graphs and charts and sociological psychobabble. That's just fancy dudebroing.

Getting laid is easy. Plenty of effective systems for getting laid. I find cash transactions to be the most honest. Actually having an intimate connection with another human being and being partially responsible for their emotional welfare -- that shit's hard, and there ain't no system.

Iannis_sl said:

Shit man. Key to your place, hiking trips?

She's not a pet, Eomer. She needs something from you. You gotta either give it to her or be kind enough to let her know she has to find it elsewhere because you don't have it to give.

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The guy's a sociopath, he justified not using the "L WORD" (OH NO) because he sees it as heavy leverage in a relationship power struggle (LOL). He's mentioned his and her situation both several times, I can't see him being at her mercy unless he turns into a spineless dog. Once the honeymoon ends and he continues to treat the relationship like a game of chess it'll probably blow up in his face.

And karma's great isn't it Ham? The funny part is how you say you're hurt and have lost trust and faith in women when you're a bigger piece of shit than the ones you've stolen from others are.

Trollface_sl said:

He wasn't in a relationship. She was. I don't think that ham is a bigger piece of shit than her. Stole makes no sense though. I don't think women are pieces of tools that gets passed around. I think she can make decisions for herself and it so happens that it was to go behind her partner and fuck other people. I dunno man, ham did shitty things but hell, I'd be mad at her more than him if ham fucked my gf.

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Yup, your "everyone's fair game" mentality has gotten you pretty far from what you've said. Good job man.

And the white knights swing in.

Kirun_sl said:

Offer, accept her refusal. If she goes back on the refusal, you know that she's bullshitting, and you should bail.

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lol

McCheese_sl said:

Why would you raise the subject? I thought it was pretty universally agreed that women should be the ones who bring that sort of stuff up.

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"Don't say it first" is a good policy for dumbasses who want to drop it after 1 month and scare girls off. It's a terrible policy to follow when you're not one of those people, because sometimes the girl waits for the guy to take lead on those things. The girl I've been seeing lately is really reserved with that shit and I had to go a little over the top in saying things like "I want to see you" and telling her I liked her blah blah until she finally got comfortable reciprocating. I did that because I got plenty of signs that she was into me and sensed that she was hesitant to open up. Had I not done that we might have hit a roadblock. This is probably extra true in Eomer's position, considering the fact that theyve dated for a long time now. Eomer, do you love her? Say it when you feel it. Don't plan it. If she doesn't reciprocate after however many months it has been, she won't ever. If you're emotionally stupid and don't know how to express that stuff (not an insult - many guys are that way), then maybe planning it a little isn't a terrible idea.

Trollface_sl said:

is that a bad sign if she is telling her friend but not you? In relationships generally?

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No

Soygen_sl said:

Walk in her taking a shit. Then with a completely deadpan face, say, "I love you, girl." Then immediately walk back out of the bathroom.

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The best plan

edit: Banging a girl with a boyfriend isn't wrong unless it's your friend's girlfriend or something like that or unless you're scheming on her for days/weeks/months. The "you're a piece of shit" guys sound just like that Bill Burr clip where some fatass Senator is talking about how despicable Tiger Woods is for cheating on his wife. On the other hand, if you start dating a girl under questionable circumstances, you can't be surprised when things like this happen.

Badabidi_sl said:

The guy's a sociopath, he justified not using the "L WORD" (OH NO) because he sees it as heavy leverage in a relationship power struggle (LOL).

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Wait, what? When did I say that? All I said was that it hadn't yet been spoken between us, and I thought it might well be because she is concerned that it might frighten me off or something because I can be emotionally distant and she may not realize that I'm probably as in to her as she is me.

Badabidi_sl said:

He's mentioned his and her situation both several times, I can't see him being at her mercy unless he turns into a spineless dog. Once the honeymoon ends and he continues to treat the relationship like a game of chess it'll probably blow up in his face.

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I don't want to be in a relationship where either of us is at the mercy of the other, and I certainly haven't been treating it like a game of chess. The whole thing has actually been quite organic and effortless, there's just this wee little speed bump over one stupid word that will end up amounting to nothing in hindsight.

Dabamf_sl said:

If you're emotionally stupid and don't know how to express that stuff(not an insult - many guys are that way), then maybe planning it a little isn't a terrible idea.

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That's pretty much the crux of the matter. I'm not sure if I do or not, to be honest. I think I do, anyways.

edit: Banging a girl with a boyfriend isn't wrong unless it's your friend's girlfriend or something like that or unless you're scheming on her for days/weeks/months. The "you're a piece of shit" guys sound just like that Bill Burr clip where some fatass Senator is talking about how despicable Tiger Woods is for cheating on his wife. On the other hand, if you start dating a girl under questionable circumstances, you can't be surprised when things like this happen.

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Wow. You're a pretty shitty human being if you think it's ok to bang a chick who you know is in a monogamous relationship. Of course, the girl is just as much at fault as you because she is knowingly cheating on her boyfriend, but I can't see how knowingly participating in the cheating is ok.

Even in Bill Burr's bit he says that although he can understand why famous guys cheat, it's still an asshole move.

McCheese_sl said:

Wow. You're a pretty shitty human being if you think it's ok to bang a chick who you know is in a monogamous relationship. Of course, the girl is just as much at fault as you because she is knowingly cheating on her boyfriend, but I can't see how knowingly participating in the cheating is ok.

Even in Bill Burr's bit he says that although he can understand why famous guys cheat, it's still an asshole move.

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Going to go with you being wrong on this one. It's not a binary equation, and it's entirely up to the 'monogamous' party whether they want to cheat or not. Unless her guy is someone you have a different connection to, he shouldn't even enter into your thought process beyond assessing possible consequences in case of retaliation.

Moonarchia_sl said:

Going to go with you being wrong on this one. It's not a binary equation, and it's entirely up to the 'monogamous' party whether they want to cheat or not. Unless her guy is someone you have a different connection to, he shouldn't even enter into your thought process beyond assessing possible consequences in case of retaliation.

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Just a difference in morals, I guess. I'd personally feel like a scumbag.

McCheese_sl said:

Just a difference in morals, I guess. I'd personally feel like a scumbag.

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Yeah, same. Even if the "blame" for the affair or whatever happens should mostly fall on the person in a previous relationship, the other person is still a dirtbag for getting involved in someone else's shit. There's lots of unclaimed pussy/dick out there, go find your own.

Eomer_sl said:

That's pretty much the crux of the matter. I'm not sure if I do or not, to be honest. I think I do, anyways.

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There comes a point where you have to decide if you do or not.

Familiarity helps. It's easier to make that decision after 3 years than 3 days. Weathering stress together helps, shared hardship and all of that. But there is always that point where you decide. Sometimes the decision is to recognize something which already exists, sometimes the decision is to create something which could exist, and sometimes the decision is simply no.

Maybe women get thunderstruck and it's just something that happens to them. I believe that is sometimes the case. Occasionally that happens to men.

But for the rest of us, it's something that you decide. A lifetime of training in forcing pre-frontal decisions to rule emotion (it's what civilizes us) doesn't only apply to negative emotion, after all.

Edit: and yes, it takes 2 to commit adultery. Fucking a married / involved chick who you know is married / involved when you do it is wrong. But I mean if you're not going to get caught and you don't really care (or if the pussy is good enough to take on a little bit more sin for)... let your penis have its fun. That doesn't make it right. But shit, what man is perfect in the face of temptation?

McCheese_sl said:

Just a difference in morals, I guess. I'd personally feel like a scumbag.

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Same.

Also: There are so many girls out there - why bother risking the complete mess that could result from breaking up a relationship.

I'm going to make a post, and it isn't gonna be pretty.

That rational male blog, the SMV chart, plate theory, and especially the posts on hypergamy are all correct and serve as an excellent resource if one wants to get the proverbial pussy or even succeed in relationships. It is a science.

However, the analyses needs to go deeper than that, and only in those deeper analyses can the real problems, the true issues, be seen.

Let me more accurately state: it's an excellent resource if one wants to get the proverbial pussy or succeed in relationshipsin this society.

His lens should be looking tohow sick this society isfor the definition of love and relationships its, we, have put forth. If love is facilitated psychically as a commodity, as a competition in a SMV market, there is something fundamentally wrong with every one of us - a social neurosis we all share.

It's not biology or evolution. It's sociological that manifests certain aspects of biology or evolution. If we have to treat women as spinning plates, and psychosocially they want to be treated this way in order to experience the feelings related to certain hormonal responses, we as a society need to examine ourselves.

I consciouslydo not want to spin plates. I do not want to put myself into the concept of a market with regards to feelings and intimacy. I do not want to participate in a game that society has built on top of courtship. It is not genuine to me, and because I can identify in scientific language the reasons for these behaviors, I can be better equipped to talk about and resist them.

Love, in an objective sense and in any form, isvery rarein modern society.