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Grez

Trakanon Raider
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I really don’t like how they’ve doubled down on spell power and heal power so that every class needs it. I guess white damage is scary to them so it has to all be like you said, low level spell spam with lots of spell and heal power upgrades
caps at 750, people are hitting it now, we'll be entering into the white damage phase soon.
 

Sylas

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Apologize, one of two things, wife needed me or testing some different UI configs - I'll be on later this evening, or I can give you a /tell in game - what's your current char name ?
i'm usually on either my ranger Sylas or my new alt is Malak if you still need an invite, or you can do a /who old men all and ask anyone in guild
 

Talenvor

Lord Nagafen Raider
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236
Yup. Swapped off of PAL this last weekend. CLR is tankier AND offers more sustain than PAL currently.
I’m looking to do the same thing. No reason to stick with pal over cleric especially without slay undead being needed for as farming anymore.
 

Rod-138

Trakanon Raider
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Downed the Sleeper last night and it was a total shit show. I am going to post some things that I'm sure are obvious to most, but I didn't know them, so I'll post in case it helps anyone else.

Rog/Sham/SK, SK epic and Mystroker's dagger


The fight went pretty smooth until the last section, where I can tell I am weak on DPS. I used Deadeye / Rabid Bear / Duelist on the last 15%, but it only got Kerafym down to around 8% when the aids dragons spawned to assist him. I thought I was fucked, but I popped harm touch / leech touch, got him down to 4%, then just chain tapped and somehow got him down and looted before the aids friends killed me. I learned before the fight that you can double Malo with shaman - the AA and the spell, which was useful landing poison Dots the first round. Somehow he resisted almost everything 2nd round. I fucked up by slapping the dots down too early - around 30%. My thinking was they would last long enough to help burn him down on the final 25%, but it just wasn't the case. They ate through him, but then he was at like 17% and my melee dps just didn't do the job. It worked out, but really fucking marginally.

9700 HP
2400 AC
1940 attack / 2240 Bear mode
368 dmg
300 Heal

I am pretty casual despite playing a lot during Christmas, so I thought the fight was perfect for someone like me and a real challenge. Whoever posted the dots strat - I still don't know what to think. The resists were so random where I think I went like 0/4 on Bane after landing ancient scourge and at that point its like, fuck it, the melee procs will have to work. Like I said, I am still learning more everyday and appreciate others pointing out ideas.

Luca
 
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Nulolan

Golden Knight of the Realm
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Here is my load-out for sleeper, as you can see your spell damage is really low. I'm pretty much BIS minus a couple augs so wouldn't expect to have it nearly as high, but can probally pick up a couple hundred more spell damage super cheap in bazaar.
Downed the Sleeper last night and it was a total shit show. I am going to post some things that I'm sure are obvious to most, but I didn't know them, so I'll post in case it helps anyone else.

Rog/Sham/SK, SK epic and Mystroker's dagger


The fight went pretty smooth until the last section, where I can tell I am weak on DPS. I used Deadeye / Rabid Bear / Duelist on the last 15%, but it only got Kerafym down to around 8% when the aids dragons spawned to assist him. I thought I was fucked, but I popped harm touch / leech touch, got him down to 4%, then just chain tapped and somehow got him down and looted before the aids friends killed me. I learned before the fight that you can double Malo with shaman - the AA and the spell, which was useful landing poison Dots the first round. Somehow he resisted almost everything 2nd round. I fucked up by slapping the dots down too early - around 30%. My thinking was they would last long enough to help burn him down on the final 25%, but it just wasn't the case. They ate through him, but then he was at like 17% and my melee dps just didn't do the job. It worked out, but really fucking marginally.

9700 HP
2400 AC
1940 attack / 2240 Bear mode
368 dmg
300 Heal

I am pretty casual despite playing a lot during Christmas, so I thought the fight was perfect for someone like me and a real challenge. Whoever posted the dots strat - I still don't know what to think. The resists were so random where I think I went like 0/4 on Bane after landing ancient scourge and at that point its like, fuck it, the melee procs will have to work. Like I said, I am still learning more everyday and appreciate others pointing out ideas.

Luca
 
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Rod-138

Trakanon Raider
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Oh wow that’s next level. Sounds like I need to prioritize spell dmg on gear a bit more to go dot crazy. I like it ! Makes me interested to know what that Druid sham nec super dots can do
 
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Sylas

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hrm AA and spell Malo stack? wonder about Scent of Terris, AA and spell as well? then insidious decay....hrm

this is for my new SK/NEC/SHM, thought about druid for epic but so far between shm and necro only the curse line is a magic dot the rest are poison or disease
 

Nulolan

Golden Knight of the Realm
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14
hrm AA and spell Malo stack? wonder about Scent of Terris, AA and spell as well? then insidious decay....hrm

this is for my new SK/NEC/SHM, thought about druid for epic but so far between shm and necro only the curse line is a magic dot the rest are poison or disease
Yea they stack. Anyone can use the Elder Spiritist vambraces from inventory for another magic DoT, but its a long cast unless you get at least enchanted.
 

Ridas

Pay to play forum
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Oh, the stacking of malo is great. Had like a 50/50 chance on ntov bosses with only aa Malo. Nice to know.
 

Dexz

Golden Knight of the Realm
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20
I'm still not sold on war/clr/rog - currently at level 50 with 160ish AA and trying to solo AA in chardok is painful.

I feel like the warrior doesn't really bring anything to the table at level 50, perhaps this changes at higher levels? I like the damage from the rogue, heals and buffs from the clr but the war portion feels stale..

The flip side, not sure what I should swap it out for - maybe bst for the pet and bloodlust or an aoe class.
 

General Antony

Ahn'Qiraj Raider
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Isnt warrior mostly for RoRZ? I think the other thing a dev brought up was better itemization for war later on but it's not that relevant in this expansion. I don't know how rorz and bloodlust compare.
 

Kirun

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RoRZ is pretty massive. Warriors also get 1K HP extra, more soft cap AC, GREAT defensive cooldowns, etc.

They're not DPS monsters, but they are survivable as fuck. They're decent in almost any comp, they just aren't going to bring much DPS.

In a ROG/CLR/WAR comp, it's pretty much just ROG bringing all the DPS and CLR supporting that with DA. Your main problem is that you have 160AA. Most classes don't feel good until at LEAST 500, sometimes not until 1000.

WAR probably isn't the "optimal" pick in that setup, you'd likely be better of with BER, since they get a lot of the same WAR AAs but add a lot more DPS. However, WAR let's you play a lot "safer", even though DPS will be lower.

In ARPG terms, it's like expecting a build to come "online" at level 30.
 

hory

Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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The meta for me is Pal/anything/anything. Farm AA in an undead zone. You will one shot reds, farm 1k+ aa change to a combo you want.

I think you could do this with other classes. I just pull the entire undead side of veskar get 7 aa, afk 10 min repeate.
 

Sylas

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ok does anyone have any idea how DoT crits work? I'm starting to get some AAs and focus effect gear so far i've got:

Critical Affliction 6/6 = 30% chance each tick can crit
Destructive Fury 6/6 = 60% increase in spell crit dmg
Spell Casting Fury 3/3 = 7% chance to spell crit

Improved Damage 3 = 20% increase in spell dmg
Burning Affliction 3 = 20% increase in dot dmg

it seems that it is some sort of bug, but lets say a dot tick does 100 damage normally, it does 140 dmg now with those focus effects, and if it crits it should do 140x1.6 = 224 damage for that tick. but it's actually doing 1100 dmg.

Actual numbers, clinging darkness 161 per tick, crit tick does 1007
disease cloud 154 normal tick, crit tick 985
Curse of Spirits (hard to judge, it scales up every tick but normal tick 164 next tick crits for 1132


edit: found a post, apparently DoTs are supposed to have a 3.2 multiplier for some reason, so if a normal tick does 100 dmg a crit should do 320 dmg?? I guess that's just how it is...but with focus affects AA and spell power (Crits use 100% of your spell power not 50%) it ends up closer to 6-6.5 multiplier after all is said and done

So yeah crit builds gonna be huge as the game goes on, maybe i'll stick with this toon
 
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Jox

Molten Core Raider
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ok does anyone have any idea how DoT crits work? I'm starting to get some AAs and focus effect gear so far i've got:

Critical Affliction 6/6 = 30% chance each tick can crit
Destructive Fury 6/6 = 60% increase in spell crit dmg
Spell Casting Fury 3/3 = 7% chance to spell crit

Improved Damage 3 = 20% increase in spell dmg
Burning Affliction 3 = 20% increase in dot dmg

it seems that it is some sort of bug, but lets say a dot tick does 100 damage normally, it does 140 dmg now with those focus effects, and if it crits it should do 140x1.6 = 224 damage for that tick. but it's actually doing 1100 dmg.

Actually numbers, clinging darkness 161 per tick, crit tick does 1007
diseae cloud 154 normal tick, crit tick 985
Curse of Spirits (hard to judge, it scales up every tick but normal tick 164 next tick crits for 1132
From seeing it mentioned on their discord before, dot crits get your full spell damage applied for that crit tick.
 

Sylas

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From seeing it mentioned on their discord before, dot crits get your full spell damage applied for that crit tick.
yeah I saw that too, I just did not know DoTs get an inherent 3.2 critical multiplier, and when you factor in everything it ends up being like 6.4 multiplier, its insane
 

taimaishoo

Golden Knight of the Realm
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142
I'm still not sold on war/clr/rog - currently at level 50 with 160ish AA and trying to solo AA in chardok is painful.

I feel like the warrior doesn't really bring anything to the table at level 50, perhaps this changes at higher levels? I like the damage from the rogue, heals and buffs from the clr but the war portion feels stale..

The flip side, not sure what I should swap it out for - maybe bst for the pet and bloodlust or an aoe class.
Have you capped anatomy? At least in terms of AAing that should help speed up things when you are assassinating the sarneks.