If you’re okay with swapping 2 classes you’re better off doing anything that can AE, especially DN (wiz/brd/whatever or war/bst/clr are probably best). You’ll be pulling well over 100 AA/hr depending on your veteran level.
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Yeah, DN is loaded with overcons because they made everything level 60 there, since people were bitching about AA speeds at 60. You get a shitload of mobs that have junk HP for their levels. It's insane AA exp, to the point where slay undead just isn't really even a "thing" anymore.
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Ok so I think I figured out DoT crits, its not a bug its just crazy AAs
Necromancers and/or shaman start with 1/3 in the AA Destructive Cascade which adds 1.2 the the crit multiplier on DoT ticks. where normal spell criticals are 2x multiplier DoT crits start at 3.2.
2/3 and 3/3 Destructive Cascade brings the total to 3.4 multiplier. 6/6 Destructive Fury brings the total to 4.0 multiplier. Then you the DoT tick gets the full spell power bonus rather than 50%.
With a theoretical DoT that does 0 dmg per tick, with 300 spell power a DoT tick does 150, on a critical it now does 300 from spell power x 4.0 = 1200 dmg.
I'm seeing at least 50% chance to crit on dot ticks from AAs as well, so yeah it gets crazy really quickly.
I just did the necro epic to add a 2nd clicky DoT to my repertoire and SK epic for DoT proc lol
Necromancers and/or shaman start with 1/3 in the AA Destructive Cascade which adds 1.2 the the crit multiplier on DoT ticks. where normal spell criticals are 2x multiplier DoT crits start at 3.2.
2/3 and 3/3 Destructive Cascade brings the total to 3.4 multiplier. 6/6 Destructive Fury brings the total to 4.0 multiplier. Then you the DoT tick gets the full spell power bonus rather than 50%.
With a theoretical DoT that does 0 dmg per tick, with 300 spell power a DoT tick does 150, on a critical it now does 300 from spell power x 4.0 = 1200 dmg.
I'm seeing at least 50% chance to crit on dot ticks from AAs as well, so yeah it gets crazy really quickly.
I just did the necro epic to add a 2nd clicky DoT to my repertoire and SK epic for DoT proc lol
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With the overlap from Necro lifesteal/feign and it sounds like you are mostly hard casting everything, what does the SK bring? Looks like the SHM/Necro would pair well with any other plate wearer. I see a lot of people warming to cleric cooldowns atm on Disco.
Also, anyone know what Berserkers brings to the table for a bow ranger? I see people saying it's the highest single target white damage combo, but I can't tell what all they bring (Disco is annoying for searching, as I can't seem to limit it to just one thread). I don't even think Berks were in the game when I played it last.
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You can still use frenzy in melee range i imagine like you can with backstab and not interrupt bow shots.
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Mnk/Clr/SK is great, but Bristlebane proved to me that if a class setup doesn't have slow in it, it's probably gonna get raped in the future; willsapper is garbage, and only procs once against BB, you can sit there the entire fight wailing on him with it and it won't bloody proc on him again, even with journeyman poor-mans-tash.
I recently started an sk/rog/shm alt. He's got BIS. Now, all i gotta do is grind ~2k AA. If you don't mind me asking, did you level up poison making? What poisons do you use? Also, what buffs do you use? I'm definately gonna miss all them clr buffs =P
Thanks for revealing the combat spells you use. Omfg that's a lot relative to the 3 buttons I hit =P
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Is there any slow available for a clr/mnk/ber? I lost my willsapper use when I swapped away from Paladin and I don’t know of any other slow I can utilize.
Slowstone Amber is a Monk useable click slow with 3 charges that drops in PoHate.
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SK is almost exclusively brought for tap procs for sustain, Touch of the Cursed is incredibly powerful and it trumps all other forms of life tap (like 70% of your life tap, procs or spell, is from touch of the Cursed). It also makes all your life tap procs 300% better (Soul Abrasion) not to mention that necro only gets 1 shitty life tap proc buff where it's a full spell line for SK. Necro really does not compare at all.
Also brings Plate, Shield (+Deflection Disc), Harm Touch, leech Touch, including a couple of lifetap Discs (leechcurse, Unholy Aura). I initially debated warrior and dw lifetap proc weapons, could use rorz to make up for the lack of tap proc power but i'm enjoying this a ton, i really like the SK kit.
The real question for me is what does Necro bring since I have shaman and there's a limited number of DoTs you can cast before the mobs run out of health (for bosses sure it'll help but right now things die so fast I barely have time to get both epic dot's up) and Shaman has AOE DoTs.
Necro brings the pet (since they seperated SK and Necro pet spells I actually have 3 pets, but shm and SK pet are just there to proc stuff they barely do any dmg) and also brings itemization....I've never had a cloth wearer and so much gear is actually limited to cloth (wiz/enc/mag/nec), and there are a few nec/cloth only type AAs.
Berserker brings the highest dmg special attack (Frenzy), and Rage Volley isn't bad either once you've got the AAs. They also have several decent cooldowns like Blood Pact
My Zerker does more damage with Frenzy than my Ranger does with bow hits. Both are also Rogues so the rest of the difference in dmg is SK (dps tank) vs pal (def tank)
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Thanks but I meant unlimited use like a proc or something. With how often my stuff gets resisted and how frequently we can spawn raid bosses I’d need backpacks full of those things
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Man, if that's it, I can't ever see picking a Zerker over a Rogue. Frenzy can't be that much better than backstab/poison and rogue has super invis.
As for Necro in DoT combo, I am thinking it might be best to pick 1 class that can AoE Dragon Necropolis as a starter, then get up to 1000+ AA (if you have the Vet bonus) then use the free switch class change to move to a boss focused build for faster clears.
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Frenzy/Rage Volley is roughly twice as much dmg as a rogue brings from Poison/backstab. prolly not as much of a gap if you have a wizard for their AAs but still zerker easily outperforms it.
it's a tough choice tbh, I couldn't decide so I just rolled a ranger to kill bosses. Of course I hate the bow/ranged attack playstyle so I immediately gave in and rolled a caster.
Early on Rogue is easily the best DPS add because its quick and low AA requirements, but it also has a very low ceiling. But the rogue has utility like SoS and hell even lock picks are super convenient, despite the fact that theres only like 4 locked doors in this version of the game so far.
it's a tough choice tbh, I couldn't decide so I just rolled a ranger to kill bosses. Of course I hate the bow/ranged attack playstyle so I immediately gave in and rolled a caster.
Early on Rogue is easily the best DPS add because its quick and low AA requirements, but it also has a very low ceiling. But the rogue has utility like SoS and hell even lock picks are super convenient, despite the fact that theres only like 4 locked doors in this version of the game so far.
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Rogues right now really aren’t in a great place as a white damage add. They output their best dps in spell power and crit focused builds due to their poison procs. One of the devs was in the bow damage thread talking about how they are going to need to buff rogues in the near future, especially as we head into PoP and they start seeing their poisons get resisted constantly. They can’t touch ranger or berserker dps as it stands, but they aren’t sure yet how they want to go about boosting them since they are a in weird spot. Rogue is still an amazing class, brings SoS and a lot of utility, but they are going to run into a wall soon and need some tweaks to keep them from falling all the way off. General consensus right now is take Bard over rogue basically.
A comparison that was used was rogues backstab capping out around 12k, whereas with cleaving frenzy berserkers are hitting for up to 170k with frenzy as the mobs health gets lower.
Edit: link to convo on discord for reference Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games
A comparison that was used was rogues backstab capping out around 12k, whereas with cleaving frenzy berserkers are hitting for up to 170k with frenzy as the mobs health gets lower.
Edit: link to convo on discord for reference Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games
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Paladin shield patch deployed with bonus xp for rest of the weekend. Monk changes also coming later this weekend according to Aporia.
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I don't know how sk/rog/shm stay alive on sleeper. Tried him on my alt, it has bis gear other than augs, 1.8k AAs so pretty much everything useful. 9.5k hp, 2.6k ac, 450 spell/healing. Dude was spiking me like crazy, died when warder spawned. Comparatively I just afk on my war/bst/clr, pop my bloodlust when it's up, never have to press any defensive button, battle frenzy at 25% to skip adds to save time and it's free loot. Do you just have to spam taps the whole time?
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Hopefully to spawns in a zone that you can spawn a expedition on. I farmed 1 pelt over about 6 hours on my "baz trader" druid and competing with people (rangers) that weren't killing PHs was real shitty. Leveling up tailoring is taking just as long, if not longer...
