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mkopec

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Kirun said:
SK/SHM/ZER should work fine. SHM is a little out of place with that build because with ZER you're relying on white damage, but it's not like SHM doesn't get things to help white damage, just not at quite the level CLR does.
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Shaman has slows, haste, can buff your shit but thats it. Hes not really bringing in any of those big dick discs to the table like the other classes do other than the feral bear or whatever, which is good, dont get me wrong, the dot contributes about 120K-150K dmg per boss fight and buffs the white a bit. And we all know how the dot game is, fucking LAME. IMO they should get a buff somehow. Ive tried different dots on bosses and the only one thats worth a damn is the Ancient scourge of Nife.

the slows are cool when youre ramping your character on some non-immune bosses, but later with gear and AA the SK takes over and is damn near invincible. Right now I would rather have the wiz as my third for those big dick crit AA and nukes for that buffed blue dmg, which is what this build is all about.

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mkopec said:
Shaman has slows, haste, can buff your shit but thats it. Hes not really bringing in any of those big dick discs to the table like the other classes do. And we all know how the dot game is, fucking LAME. IMO they should get a buff somehow.
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Rabid Bear still provides a big help to white damage builds and has like a 90% uptime - it's a great buff, just not at the level DA is. They also get permanent avatar/primal avatar which is a massive ATK buff that you otherwise have to juggle Avatar weapon procs to get. And if they ever give them Panther before DoN releases, they'll be NUTS for melee builds..

They also have a fuckload of really good defensive/healing cooldowns that CLR only really gets 2 of.

I actually think SHM are in a pretty solid spot. All the priests are now, really. DRU kinda sucked but with the buffs they slot really well with hybrid builds now. I think it's CLR who kinda lacks some "oomph" now, which I tried to tell the devs would happen if DA got nerfed. They're still solid, but as the expacs open up they'll keep falling behind as DRU and SHM get newer, cool shit. CLR just get more heals, on a server where sustainability isn't really a big issue.
 
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Burns said:
I tried Seru +1 with petcuck and got him down to around 50% before running out of mana. I was spamming high cost taps, so might have been able to get more efficient but it was just too annoying to keep running back (I was too lazy to clear all the mobs up to him because this time I'm going to kill him).

Non hard mode (Seru +0) was fairly "easy" with petcuck, just had to be quick on the AoE pet heals and LoS his spells (creep around a corner column so you can cast on him). Too bad on hard more he AoE summons every 5 seconds or some such.
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Am I missing something or how are you fighting him? Do you tank with no pet taunt or let them tank? My pets are starting to show their weakness in the latest content. This is one of the reasons I think they are overzealous to nerf pets, sure they are gimp easy at low levels and without AA, but in the long game they always seem to lose.

Anyway....

  • I am using pet bags
  • All pets have the muzzle
  • I think I have all of the AA's for pets, but will double check
  • Mage Epic pet tanks, has both lifetap weapons and the heal proc gem equipped(others more dps/utility)
  • mage pet bag is otherwise full of AC style items, nothing amazing but not garbage either

Basically when farming I play it like a BST just meleeing with the occasional nuke or whatever, on bosses i tend to play more like a neco with dots, but i do get in there in melee and swing away during DOTS if possible.

However on challenging content I find that I am almost spamming the pet heal only giving me little other time to do other stuff. I am using the highest heal. Should I be getting more heal power, a high healing strike buff and using the low level ones?
 
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Am I missing something or how are you fighting him? Do you tank with no pet taunt or let them tank? My pets are starting to show their weakness in the latest content. This is one of the reasons I think they are overzealous to nerf pets, sure they are gimp easy at low levels and without AA, but in the long game they always seem to lose.

Anyway....

  • I am using pet bags
  • All pets have the muzzle
  • I think I have all of the AA's for pets, but will double check
  • Mage Epic pet tanks, has both lifetap weapons and the heal proc gem equipped(others more dps/utility)
  • mage pet bag is otherwise full of AC style items, nothing amazing but not garbage either

Basically when farming I play it like a BST just meleeing with the occasional nuke or whatever, on bosses i tend to play more like a neco with dots, but i do get in there in melee and swing away during DOTS if possible.

However on challenging content I find that I am almost spamming the pet heal only giving me little other time to do other stuff. I am using the highest heal. Should I be getting more heal power, a high healing strike buff and using the low level ones?
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Well first, the big thing is getting a pet focus. It must be equiped when you summon, but can be taken off after that. Current BiS pet focus are Gloves of Dark Summoning, which add 2 levels to your pets, but the necro epic also works for a single level. Tunare drops a focus and there is an augment focus, but those are harder to get for the same power increase, AFAIK.

Mage pet is only taunter, which I am always double checking because pet commands are a bit temperamental with 3 pets. I try not to take hits at all.

I have to mostly spam heals on Seru, yeah. It's usually a cast order of HoT > DoT > Heal (lvl 49) > DoT > Heal (lvl 60) > DoT > Heal (lvl 49) > DoT > Heal (lvl 60) > etc (making sure to keep the HoT up). If Seru has a huge DMG round, then I use a cooldown heal, Host in the Shell, and/or Second Wind. If the pets are doing well and staying over 80%, Ill sneak in a few DoTs in a row before the next heal.

I don't use muzzle at all and go by the discord BiS lists for pets. Here is the current poopsocker deluxe list in Google Spreadsheet format (necro pet is support & BST pet is dps):
 
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Here are the self buffed stats on the Petcuck (I have a CLR/DRU/ENC buff bot on my trader account that I use to add a bunch of HP/AC for bosses too). I haven't changed much since Luclin started, other than VT quest neck and getting the good pet focus (focus certainly made a noticeable difference over necro epic).

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Cabales

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Thanks for your advice everyone. Very helpful. I'll give it a little thought, but I'm thinking SK/SHM/BER is probably my next char.
 
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SK and BER pair very well together, and SHM is great and helps give some gear diversity. Don’t discount some of the gear options that having a healer or caster in your build can open up, sometimes completely alters your BIS list.
 
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Well first, the big thing is getting a pet focus. It must be equiped when you summon, but can be taken off after that. Current BiS pet focus are Gloves of Dark Summoning, which add 2 levels to your pets, but the necro epic also works for a single level. Tunare drops a focus and there is an augment focus, but those are harder to get for the same power increase, AFAIK.

Mage pet is only taunter, which I am always double checking because pet commands are a bit temperamental with 3 pets. I try not to take hits at all.

I have to mostly spam heals on Seru, yeah. It's usually a cast order of HoT > DoT > Heal (lvl 49) > DoT > Heal (lvl 60) > DoT > Heal (lvl 49) > DoT > Heal (lvl 60) > etc (making sure to keep the HoT up). If Seru has a huge DMG round, then I use a cooldown heal, Host in the Shell, and/or Second Wind. If the pets are doing well and staying over 80%, Ill sneak in a few DoTs in a row before the next heal.

I don't use muzzle at all and go by the discord BiS lists for pets. Here is the current poopsocker deluxe list in Google Spreadsheet format (necro pet is support & BST pet is dps):
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Is there a page somewhere like that for SK/ROG/SHM??
 
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Pogi.G said:
Is there a page somewhere like that for SK/ROG/SHM??
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Not exactly, as in, no one went through all the trouble of making a google doc, but the disco channel has BiS lists pinned at the top. Not sure if the direct link works, but the screenshot in the spoilers shows where it's at too:
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Last time I checked the ROG/SHM/SK pinned BIS, it was all old Velious stuff. There is a ton of upgrades in Luclin. But they do have a good crucial AA list, like which ones to get first for biggest bang.

Direct Luclin upgrades....
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Only thing im missing is the damn rings. The fucker wont drop them for me.

I just got the umbracite legs to drop lego for me 5 min ago. If you want them send romag a tell and ill give them to you for 12K, big guildie discount.
 
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mkopec said:
Last time I checked the ROG/SHM/SK pinned BIS, it was all old Velious stuff. There is a ton of upgrades in Luclin. But they do have a good crucial AA list, like which ones to get first for biggest bang.
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These have been floating around channel lately.


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I think they use the haste belt, so they can take non-haste cloak. That shield is awesome and I didn't know it could go on back.
 
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LOL you love to see it, the fucker finally dropped it for me, so at least ill have one, plus bonus the shield dropped too!

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BTW that is one of the dumbest encounters ever. So you spend all this time hunting down a sword, plus the stupid ore, crafting it with +bane. so then you meet up with him and he casts a fucking 90% slow. So you never even get to use the fucking thing except maybe 4-5 swings the entire fight. Whomever thought that was a good idea needs to be taken out back.
 
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mkopec said:
LOL you love to see it, the fucker finally dropped it for me, so at least ill have one, plus bonus the shield dropped too!

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BTW that is one of the dumbest encounters ever. So you spend all this time hunting down a sword, plus the stupid ore, crafting it with +bane. so then you meet up with him and he casts a fucking 90% slow. So you never even get to use the fucking thing except maybe 4-5 swings the entire fight. Whomever thought that was a good idea needs to be taken out back.
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Shaman can cure the curse in 1 cast with the remove greater curse that drops from the Arch Lich mobs in Temple. I didn't even bother getting Shis bane on SK/Rog/Wiz, in part due to having no cure.
 
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Jysin said:
Can anyone post the recent patch notes?

also, what’s up with bard speed world buff not working?
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- Consolidated Echo of Aegolism, Echo of the Grove, Echo of the Brood, Echo of Focus, and Echo of Koadiac into Echo of Power.
- Replaced Knight's Rebuke with existing AA: Knight's Return Strike
- Fixed several errors with Valentine's Day event scripts
- Prevented Forlorn Follower of Erolisi from replacing certain NPCs
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Important Information & Errata:

- Forlorn Follower of Erollisi are *still* whatever their base NPC is. They still have the same quests, scripts, etc. If you need them to *die* for some event to work correctly, just kill them, don't use their dialogue to make them depop.
- Echo of Power is not a direct 1:1 comparison to the effects of the old buffs, and may be adjusted in the future. The application of buff scaling makes the consolidated buff scale a little bit differently than the composite buffs.


When they combined the above Echo buffs something with the Selo’s Echo broke. They are working to fix last I heard.
 
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Burns said:
Shaman can cure the curse in 1 cast with the remove greater curse that drops from the Arch Lich mobs in Temple. I didn't even bother getting Shis bane on SK/Rog/Wiz, in part due to having no cure.
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Like I said before, why bother to remove curse when in 2 seconds he just casts it again. Its dumb and stupid. Shaman have an AA that removes it too. But why? for the 5 seconds of no 90% slow?
 
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