The Heroes Journey (Multiclass EQemu Progression Server)

Witless said:

Monk / Zerk / Paladin is underrated. Paladins 2x damage from 1 handers and Knight’s beefy weapon selection means it does more damage than you’d think. Plus it means you can go sword n board to tank on a combo that doesn’t rely on taps to keep it alive. Right now the hotness is the Divine Hammer of Consternation. Great ratio AND procs a rune.

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Ha, that was my first character. Still at level 50 and around 300 AA. Maybe I’ll play it again at some point.

SK/ROG/SHM might not be the best DPS compared to the white damage crit builds, or pet cucks, but depending on gear (BIS here) its the most comfy to play. At least from all the characters I have. Skips all day, thanks to the ROG sneak, which is HUGE IMO. And if shit hits the fan, hes still got the ghetto FD. 2 decurse, one AA, and one spell, and basically cannot die. His one Achilles heel is the silences. Its not that hes dying, but DPS cut in 1/2 when silenced. DPS only goes up as you gather more SP with augs and near that 750 cap or Hdex for that white backstab dmg. 13K backstab crits, 13K poison crits, 6K SK AA tap crits is nothing to scoff at. Does not have the big boy dmg discs of some of the other white dmg crit builds. But also not waiting for discs to be up in order to do bosses.

All the better reason to drop NEC from petcuck and swap in bard.

All of a sudden you and your pets are very tanky, DPS doesn’t change much, you barely have to pet heal, and you can cure curses. People are killing 4/4 Seru with bad gear on purpose just to show you can still do it with this build.

Jackie Treehorn said:

All the better reason to drop NEC from petcuck and swap in bard.

All of a sudden you and your pets are very tanky, DPS doesn’t change much, you barely have to pet heal, and you can cure curses.

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Think I might do this to mine to make it a bit more interesting. Hate giving up the nec epic since it was a pita to get Motte's head.

Fight said:

The last podcast they did had a lot of cool information.

They talked a bit about under-rated builds that could be really good for PoP. The one that caught my attention was Druid/Ench/Necro.

Druid and Necro bring Heals, Taps, FD (skips), Pets/Dire Charms, and a shit-ton of stacking Dots. The enchanter brings Doppelgangers that all cast the spells you have on your bar. According to them, it is the best DPS possible build right now and almost nobody really knows about it.

It would be a bitch to level, but I have a 60 with 2k AA's I might class swap over with EOM's to give it a try.

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I wouldn't put any money on doppelgangers considering how much they've been having to rework it.

mkopec said:

I had all the SK procs up, so IDK why they didnt go off or whatever. I also had burning arrow up as well. But when it comes to bard, im a total newb, never played one and dont know what they do. I took some suggestions from Discord as to what AA and burns to use but thats about it.

Here is that first "boss" that I fought, longer fight so it might shed some more light... But in this fight I was using the 20/17 bow so dmg was a lot lower but way more frequent.

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Make sure you upgrade your SK proc spell, you are using the lvl 37 one in that dps log. You want shroud of death or shroud of undeath. It's lvl 55.

Also idk if you have time to weave in your lowest ranked lifetap but that will add all your sp in dmg/heal plus whatever rank prismatic strike you have from sympathetic strike buff

Fight said:

The last podcast they did had a lot of cool information.

They talked a bit about under-rated builds that could be really good for PoP. The one that caught my attention was Druid/Ench/Necro.

Druid and Necro bring Heals, Taps, FD (skips), Pets/Dire Charms, and a shit-ton of stacking Dots. The enchanter brings Doppelgangers that all cast the spells you have on your bar. According to them, it is the best DPS possible build right now and almost nobody really knows about it.

It would be a bitch to level, but I have a 60 with 2k AA's I might class swap over with EOM's to give it a try.

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They also mentioned that there is something that happens when you pair a Ench and 2 pure melee classes like rogue and Bezerk, they didnt mention what, but he said something wild happens with the dopplegangers, when they were talking about underutilized OP builds.

Kirun said:

A pure dot build sounds like a fucking nightmare. Sure, the DPS is probably good to great, but holy fuck trying to manage all that? No thanks.

The other issue with DoT builds is that it leaves no room for burst. So, on bosses they make like Kera that have to be burned, you're praying to RNGesus that you get some lucky crits.

Edit: And yeah, Dopple is something they've already said is the "temporary" version while they rework it. I wouldn't count on the current OP iteration to stick around.

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Yeah pure dot builds are aids. Anything that lives long enough to warrant dots (like bosses) generally have high resists to at least one type of magic if not multiple lines so you are either limited to a single series (like fire dots) so you can only apply 4-5 dots (lowest lvl to highest lvl) or they resist often enough that you are spending all most all of your cast bandwidth landing and reapplying dots, maxing out around 7 or 8.

There is a war/nec/shm build that can put up a bunch of dots but does so by weaving in a bunch of dots proc weapons during rorz windows and upkeeping the 4-5 other dots that can land otherwise.

Sylas said:

Yeah pure dot builds are aids. Anything that lives long enough to warrant dots (like bosses) generally have high resists to at least one type of magic if not multiple lines so you are either limited to a single series (like fire dots) so you can only apply 4-5 dots (lowest lvl to highest lvl) or they resist often enough that you are spending all most all of your cast bandwidth landing and reapplying dots, maxing out around 7 or 8.

There is a war/nec/shm build that can put up a bunch of dots but does so by weaving in a bunch of dots proc weapons during rorz windows and upkeeping the 4-5 other dots that can land otherwise.

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Someone asked on the stream if they were going to rework the dots, and they said the only thing they would do is decrease the cast times of the ones that take longer than 3 sec to cast and normalize them all to 3 sec. I checked my 2 that I cast on my shaman and they are both 2.7 sec, which seems like an eternity during a boss fight, lol.

FWIW to this convo - some folks on Discord in the past couple of days were saying they were getting insane boss DPS from dopplegangers casting DoTs. But like you said, who knows if it’ll stay like that permanently.

Sylas said:

Make sure you upgrade your SK proc spell, you are using the lvl 37 one in that dps log. You want shroud of death or shroud of undeath. It's lvl 55.

Also idk if you have time to weave in your lowest ranked lifetap but that will add all your sp in dmg/heal plus whatever rank prismatic strike you have from sympathetic strike buff

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Yeah, I mean I can add some more deeps just by learning more of this class setup and all but the bottom line is that it just does not feel good if you dont have the big dick discs running, and the problem is they are all on 15 min timers. There is a few smaller burns the bard has that I was running, that are on a 2 and 5 min timer I think? Anyway, yeah its a fun class to play, I like the bow, but I just cannot see this dude being a boss killer with a 15 min timer. Or better yet burn a boss down and sit and wait for the discs to refresh. I guess his use will be to do some more epic camps. With tracking an pew pew from far away he would def be good at that. He would murder anything classic/kunark/even velious. But when you get into the 1million and 1.5 million HP bosses, nahh, hell sit those out. Well see what PoP brings to the table for him.

I got other characters that are brewing up in DN right now, trying to maximize this EXP bonus as much as I can with getting AAs. Plus I still have my pet cuck stuck at lv 30, lol, but ive been sending him good shit when I find it. I have been waiting for another one of those pet cuck gloves to drop from VT. I was lucky I guess in the opening week of VT because I scored like 4 of them, but sold them all because ALL the pet cucks wanted a set. So I figured sell them while they are hot and another one will drop. Well its been days of VT, I dont even know how many runs but no fucking gloves yet. But as soon as I get some I will take him to 56 and park his ass nightly to get some AA. He should be fully BIS by then or close to it.

Jackie Treehorn said:

FWIW to this convo - some folks on Discord in the past couple of days were saying they were getting insane boss DPS from dopplegangers casting DoTs. But like you said, who knows if it’ll stay like that permanently.

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They didnt mention anything about changing anything when they were talking about dopples last night. They were excited talking about them. In fact the only thing they kept reverberating throughout the whole stream is that if given it all back they would change a lot of shit, knowing now what they know, but its too late and they are afraid to change shit now because they are afraid they would lose people.