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chaos

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Well he is trolling, of course. That's his new persona or something. But others? Probably not.
 

Loser Araysar

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How is assassinating a reporter a "massive Orwellian conspiracy"? Why would you think it comes from the "highest levels of government"?

This where the conspiracy apologies always fall apart by assuming everyone in the government is involved, making no room for the possibility that a rogue group within the government took it upon itself to eliminate a threat to it without calling Obama and asking pretty please if they could assassinate someone.

We know that US government has assassinated people before
We know the US government has killed and intimidated journalists before
And we know that the US government has indulged in plenty of its own conspiracies for various purposes


But all of a sudden, the notion that they took out a reporter who lived through Afghanistan and Iraq and numerous other warzones and then died within hours of letting his colleagues know that he was on to a big story about the US government in the wake of the Snowden/NSA fiasco, a man who by all accounts was a careful driver and not a rash person - that notion is met with skepticism despite the highly improbably circumstances in each stage of the sequence of events which would make his death by lightning in Beverly Hills on that night a lot more probable than death in a vehicular explosion (which never happens), at 100 MPH (even though he was a careful driver by all accounts) and within hours of notifying his colleagues about his story and contacting WL legal counsel.

Because, its not like the CIA ever carried out a car bombing before, right?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_Beirut_car_bombing


Morons.
 

khalid

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This is where conspiracy theories always fall apart. The same government that can't even perform basic functions is somehow also capable of carrying out massive, Orwellian conspiracies reaching from the highest levels of government administration to the low level workers. All of those people seem to have unified vision and purpose for the sake of this conspiracy, all maintain a code of silence, maintain astonishingly perfect discipline so that the only clues to a conspiracy are vague articles and unrelated parties putting out possibilities. It implies a childlike understanding of government and human sociology on the part of the believer.
This this this this this.

I mean, fuck, I was annoyed at Chaos for for buying into the entire government line and being completely apathetic to PRISM. Yet you crazies have me rooting for him now. Just lol at all the people that think the government is going around with a "destroy a car deathray" targeting journalists.
 

Loser Araysar

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You guys are vastly overestimating the intelligence of people who work or do contract work for the government.
No kidding, just look at government employees posting here: chaos, a_skeleton_03, etc.
 

chaos

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This this this this this.

I mean, fuck, I was annoyed at Chaos for for buying into the entire government line and being completely apathetic to PRISM. Yet you crazies have me rooting for him now. Just lol at all the people that think the government is going around with a "destroy a car deathray" targeting journalists.
For what it's worth I don't really buy the government line on this, I mean sure I'm apathetic but that is as much a product of where I am in life right now as it is what I thought was the obvious nature of the program and the bitterness I feel over having been against the Patriot Act and FISA and shit for so long, only to have the supporters of that shit jump up and down because they don't like the results. That shit boggles me. But I don't agree with the program, I don't like it, and I don't think it should be allowed to continue.

And lol car death rays. People will believe anything.
 

The Ancient_sl

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Why are we assuming this attack was perpetrated by the US government? Maybe Hastings was about the expose the existence of Aliens living in a stealth space ship in orbit around our planet and it was they who unleashed the death ray upon the reporter...

I'm just asking questions! Can't rule out any theory until it's been proven incorrect!
 

Gavinmad

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This car hacking shit has got to be some of the dumbest shit I've ever seen people support in the history of these forums.
 

Loser Araysar

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Why are we assuming this attack was perpetrated by the US government? Maybe Hastings was about the expose the existence of Aliens living in a stealth space ship in orbit around our planet and it was they who unleashed the death ray upon the reporter...

I'm just asking questions! Can't rule out any theory until it's been proven incorrect!
Ample proof of US government assassinating dissidents, journalists, etc. with anything from hit squads to car bombs just in last few decades alone, but now all of a sudden this is all far fetched?

Hey, if someone told you in 1969 that Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated by a government conspiracy, what would you say to that?
 

Beef Supreme_sl

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This is where conspiracy theories always fall apart. The same government that can't even perform basic functions is somehow also capable of carrying out massive, Orwellian conspiracies reaching from the highest levels of government administration to the low level workers. All of those people seem to have unified vision and purpose for the sake of this conspiracy, all maintain a code of silence, maintain astonishingly perfect discipline so that the only clues to a conspiracy are vague articles and unrelated parties putting out possibilities. It implies a childlike understanding of government and human sociology on the part of the believer.
That still doesn't invalidate Hastings' murder nor undermine the capability of Uncle Sugar to tap into our electronic private lives whenever it pleases him.
 

chaos

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That still doesn't invalidate Hastings' murder nor the undermine the capability of Uncle Sugar to tap into our electronic private lives whenever it pleases him.
It doesn't invalidate aliens from Alpha Centauri hacking his car to silence the reporter from releasing the true nature of the Great Old Ones, either. Are you going to believe any dumbass thing someone comes up with? I hear Lumie can cure cancer and fanaskin has brain infections down pat.
 

Gavinmad

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If he had disappeared or been shot in a robbery/mugging, I'd totally be willing to believe he was silenced. Car hacking is something that only a profound retard or a relentless unfunny troll would get behind.
 

Torrid

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This is where conspiracy theories always fall apart. The same government that can't even perform basic functions is somehow also capable of carrying out massive, Orwellian conspiracies reaching from the highest levels of government administration to the low level workers. All of those people seem to have unified vision and purpose for the sake of this conspiracy, all maintain a code of silence, maintain astonishingly perfect discipline so that the only clues to a conspiracy are vague articles and unrelated parties putting out possibilities. It implies a childlike understanding of government and human sociology on the part of the believer.
Well I'll be devil's advocate again and say that the Manhatten Project was rather successful. Of course the elite class back then wasn't nearly as stupid.

Wikipedia_sl said:
A 1945 Life article estimated that before the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings "[p]robably no more than a few dozen men in the entire country knew the full meaning of the Manhattan Project, and perhaps only a thousand others even were aware that work on atoms was involved." The magazine wrote that the more than 100,000 others employed with the project "worked like moles in the dark"
Also the number of people involved in murdering a single journalist could be pretty small. It's not as if the entire government would be coconspirators.

(not that I believe he was murdered; I'm just making tinfoil more fashionable)
 

a_skeleton_03

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Well I'll be devil's advocate again and say that the Manhatten Project was rather successful. Of course the elite class back then wasn't nearly as stupid.



Also the number of people involved in murdering a single journalist could be pretty small. It's not as if the entire government would be coconspirators.

(not that I believe he was murdered; I'm just making tinfoil more fashionable)
By bringing up every level being in on it he is talking about the people that say that we can't trust any investigation into this because every single person in the process is bought off....

Araysar for "Shittiest Troll 2013" and I think it's a clear win.
 

chaos

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Well I'll be devil's advocate again and say that the Manhatten Project was rather successful. Of course the elite class back then wasn't nearly as stupid.



Also the number of people involved in murdering a single journalist could be pretty small. It's not as if the entire government would be coconspirators.

(not that I believe he was murdered; I'm just making tinfoil more fashionable)
Convince those same 100,000 hard-working, intelligent patriots to murder a journalist and get back to me. I just don't buy it. Same with the 9/11 conspiracies, as if you could find the thousands of people necessary to pull that off and they all maintain perfect discipline and overlook the murder of 3,000 people. The same people who can't accomplish basic shit, like formulating an accurate budget or repair levees or whatever.

Interesting sidenote about the Manhattan Project:

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histor...b-Secrets.html
 

Beef Supreme_sl

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It doesn't invalidate aliens from Alpha Centauri hacking his car to silence the reporter from releasing the true nature of the Great Old Ones, either. Are you going to believe any dumbass thing someone comes up with? I hear Lumie can cure cancer and fanaskin has brain infections down pat.
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fanaskin

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It was probably an accident but who knows, I think the idea is to examine if it's possible, CIA is all about what's possible not what's probable after All. They literally have access to the best technology in the world and have the military industrial complex to build them things. The majority of the drone program was started and run by the CIA as an assassination tool before those operations where transferred to the armed forces remember.