The Walking Dead

Oldbased · Feb 10, 2015

joeboo_sl said:
Well, I meant 5 years of watching the show, rather than 5 years of show timeline. Just seems so flippant to just completely throw that whole struggle out the window without even much acknowledgement.

I dunno, they thought the farm was paradise. Gets overrun. They thought the Prison was paradise, mad man overruns, they thought someone else's place was paradise. Almost get cooked for dinner.
They finally say fuck this and leave, find whole division murdered by machete wielding people calling themselves wolves.
Think they finally know they are fucked.

popsicledeath · Feb 11, 2015

Lyrical_sl said:
Fuck Z Nation. I watched all of it, what nerd won't watch a zombie show, but even in the second half, it was hard to take it serious. I am convinced that the first few episodes are the worst I've seen on a TV show, bar none.

Bar none? You mean, like no other shows have been worse than the first few episodes of Z Nation? Very induhresting.

I think the difference, for me, is Z Nation has a shit budget so they actually have to try and be mindful of what they're doing. It's sometimes campy, and sometimes the special effects aren't so special, and they sometimes also have slow/filler episodes and flashbacks, but it's at least not the self-aware pat-on-the-back pretentious shit that TWD has somehow managed to become while still being pretty shallow, lowest-common-denominator teen-and-mom type of shit-fest. They've somehow created a situation where they think they're creating high art, and in reality are often doing little more than creating teeny-bopper screams and creams.

Oldbased · Feb 11, 2015

I disagree on Z Nation being bad. The last 3-4 episodes was all some original stuff as I said before. Most of the first 7 or so was shitty but still decent enough to watch.
The whole half zombie mind control stuff, Viagra Z's, Camp of survival feminists and stuff like that was actually pretty outstanding considering how saturated zombie shows are.
If they continue with that sort of thinking and quality on season 2 and some of those guys( and girls ) finally learn to half way act. It won't be so bad.
Murphy and Doc are pretty decent. 10k needs to die along with pretty much the women.

Comparing it with TWD which makes about 10 million profit per episode right now AFTER production cost is a bit unfair.

Cad · Feb 11, 2015

Olebass_sl said:
Comparing it with TWD which makes about 10 million profit per episode right now AFTER production cost is a bit unfair.

The fact that this is true despite all of the things there are to ridicule about TWD just shows I have no idea what most people want in a TV show. I would change TWD a lot if I were in charge.

Oldbased · Feb 11, 2015

Cad_sl said:
The fact that this is true despite all of the things there are to ridicule about TWD just shows I have no idea what most people want in a TV show. I would change TWD a lot if I were in charge.

Ya I mean what do you do when your show is top for ad revenue?
TV'S PRICIEST SHOWS:

NBC Sunday Night Football (NBC) 2014: $623,425; 2013: $628,000 (-0.8%)

Thursday Night Football (CBS) 2014: $492,500; 2013: n/a

The Walking Dead* (AMC) Sunday 2014: $413,695; 2013:$326,000 (+26.9%)

Monday Night Football (ESPN) 2014: $397,898; 2013: $408,000 (-2.48%)

The Big Bang Theory (CBS) Monday 2014: $327,885; 2013: n/a

The Big Bang Theory (CBS) Thursday 2014: $322,891; 2013: $317,160 (+1.8%)

The Blacklist (NBC) Monday 2014: $294,586; 2013: $174,943 (+62.7%)

American Idol (Fox) Wednesday: 2014 :$266,333; 2013: $281,600 (-5.4%)

The Voice (NBC) Monday 2014: $262,041; 2013: $259,240 (+1.08%)

Right now outside of football it cost more than even Big Bang Theory. It is even higher now with the additional millions of viewers picked up this year.
Currently it makes roughly 15 million a episode but only has a 3 to 3.5 million production cost.

You can tell they want to change some things, but I'd guess the Exec's are saying no, it's fine the way it is, chaching
Those prices above are for a 30 second ad spot during the show. That's over 400 grand to show 1 30 second ad.

Kreugen · Feb 11, 2015

It would really take a lot of work to cut someone in half at the torso with a machete. If I were in that gang I'd probably leave an anonymous note suggesting that beheadings would be more sensible. The show really needs to explain the logic of this sawing in half thing for me.

Also, they continue to disappoint me by not using zombies for physical labor. A zombie on a treadmill could power all sorts of machines.

Duskoy_sl · Feb 11, 2015

they should add more money to the damn budget then. AMC is cheap as all hell

Chukzombi · Feb 11, 2015

AMC in every article i have read about their finances, they always seem to be crying poverty. i dunno if thats a load of shit, but i know they put out a lot of TV shows because they are trying to become a "legit" network. a lot of those shows tanked and so it was a loss for them.

Joeboo · Feb 11, 2015

I can't believe that amc is hurting for money, considering breaking bad, mad men, and walking dead. Any other network (outside of maybe hbo) would kill to have even 1 of those shows.

If they are in poor financial standing then they are horribly mismanaged.

Chukzombi · Feb 11, 2015

Breaking Bad is owned by Sony.
Breaking Bad - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Mad Men is owned by Lionsgate
Mad Men - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
hell, even Better Call Saul is a Sony production
Better Call Saul - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kaid · Feb 11, 2015

Kreugen_sl said:
It would really take a lot of work to cut someone in half at the torso with a machete. If I were in that gang I'd probably leave an anonymous note suggesting that beheadings would be more sensible. The show really needs to explain the logic of this sawing in half thing for me.

Also, they continue to disappoint me by not using zombies for physical labor. A zombie on a treadmill could power all sorts of machines.

I think some of the cutting the zombies in half with a machete is a lot of the zombies are pretty withered and rotted so they are less physically durable in some ways than a normal person would be. Remember the whole fire hose vs zombie thing they did when they found that fire truck. It basically melted the zombies because they were so rotted the high pressure hose blew them apart.

Chukzombi · Feb 11, 2015

kaid_sl said:
I think some of the cutting the zombies in half with a machete is a lot of the zombies are pretty withered and rotted so they are less physically durable in some ways than a normal person would be. Remember the whole fire hose vs zombie thing they did when they found that fire truck. It basically melted the zombies because they were so rotted the high pressure hose blew them apart.

sure they melt unless they want to sneak up on a very large man then they are stronger than him and have jaws/teeth like a great white shark.

Mures · Feb 11, 2015

kaid_sl said:
I think some of the cutting the zombies in half with a machete is a lot of the zombies are pretty withered and rotted so they are less physically durable in some ways than a normal person would be. Remember the whole fire hose vs zombie thing they did when they found that fire truck. It basically melted the zombies because they were so rotted the high pressure hose blew them apart.

Well he was referring to the machete wielding bandits who took just the torsos of a bunch of live/freshly dead peeps in noah's hood. (Michonne was trying to convince them they could make the place work, but when they see arms/legs laid out perfectly with torsos missing they realize the crazy that is out there is crazier than anything they've yet come across. Then when they are rushing tyrese out of there they bump into that rv/truck they parked nearby and all of the torsos came falling out.)

Cybsled · Feb 11, 2015

There were tire tracks as well, so for all we know they had a vehicle that did the chopping. Like the bus in the Dawn of the Dead remake ;p

Arbitrary · Feb 11, 2015

Spoiler for next season

Kreugen · Feb 12, 2015

Maybe this is all the work of a really bad magician.

Tenks · Feb 12, 2015

Arbitrary_sl said:
Spoiler for next season

Glad I stopped reading this comics before this one came out. God the comics came to a standstill and stalled out so much it felt like it was season 02 of TWD all over again but with a month in between 15 minute segments of an episode.

Cybsled · Feb 12, 2015

Where they are going, you could make up 90% of the stuff just for TV and it would still be fine

Just keep Negan and the fact Rick+crew aren't the leaders when they 1st arrive at the safezone

Gamma Rays · Feb 13, 2015

It was some Monty Python fans.

popsicledeath · Feb 15, 2015

Cybsled_sl said:
There were tire tracks as well, so for all we know they had a vehicle that did the chopping. Like the bus in the Dawn of the Dead remake ;p

That would not only be cool, but make tactical sense.... which means it couldn't exist in the TWD.

Like how all the body armor they found disintegrates under human touch.

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