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Saladus

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Let's be honest here, this thread is even more entertaining than the show itself, and always will be. So don't blame people for coming back here, cause threads like this beat anything these fucking writers can dream up.
 

Sean_sl

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Just neg him down to 0 or lower and he can go ahead and give neutral negs all he wants.
Yeah, Bane is now at -1. If you're in Negative Nets the only nets you can give are neutral. So if you guys keep him in Negative he won't be able to neg anyone.
 

Tuco

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After S3's finale I'm more likely to ban people from this thread who ARE watching S4.

Also don't put me on your list, I'll watch S4 if people here like it, and people here don't like it I'll come in here and talk shit anyway.
 

supertouch_sl

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so we get 15 episodes of nothing and it all culminates in a rushed, lackluster firefight and the offscreen death of a major character. impeccable writing
 

Dabamf_sl

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Who are these people that say they aren't going to watch S4? There is some sea of people sitting around somewhere that Tarrant and Lyrical are seeing, yet the only person who has said anything about not watching S4 is Tuco, who said it after accusations happened.

I wish I wouldn't watch it, just like I wish I could have stopped watching Dexter. Except Dexter is good sometimes. I doubt I'll have the willpower though. I'm kind of addicted to bitching about the show. It's just fun. It is so terrible, my enjoyment is just like watching that movie The Room.
 

Arbitrary

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Dear god, they deviate from the comics in the most disinteresting ways and I've only read the Wikipedia for the comics.
At the end of last season when they showed the prison off in the distance I and many others couldn't wait to see how it would translate on television. The comics are a bit rough up until that point but that is the first major story arc where it's just merciless. The Governor is avillain.He cuts off Rick's hand (and in the comics we like Rick), he beats Michonne, he rapes her, he beats her again, he rapes her again. It's gruesome. After the zombies being the primary antagonists we've now got this psychopath and his little kingdom and it's bad news. He's got a zombie daughter and he's got this -

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The Governor we are given in the TV show isn't a villain. Andrea and Michonne got to read the script so they know from their first meeting onward that something's wrong but for the audience he just doesn't really do anything. They steal that awesome panel from the comics to show the audience he's the villain but it goes nowhere. For episode after episode after episode he's seen acting fairly rational while Rick is getting crazier and harder to sympathize with.

So Michonne escapes, ties up the Governor, cuts off one of his arms, digs one of his eyes out with a spoon, and goes about evening things back up. The Governor survives and leads a full assault on the prison. The assault goes on for multiple issues and it's bedlam. Rick gets shot, Andrea gets shot, Tyresse gets his head cut off by the Governor with Michonne's sword, and while this is going on Lori has the baby. The fight looks lost, they try run, and Lori takes a shotgun blast to the stomach killing her and the child. The woman who fired the shot turns on the Governor

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And it's a satisfying conclusion. It works. The group gets completely split up, Rick starts talking to his dead wife on a telephone, and over the next few issues we reassemble the group, lose a couple people, get a couple new people, and so on. We've back in the wilderness for a bit.

What they've done here with the TV show is just miserable. This was first half of Season 2 bad. We had a couple real bright points that demonstrated just how good this show is capable of being but those only served to remind us how terrible everything else is. This was the season finale and it wasloadedwith filler. There was no urgency. Andrea is just going to sit and talk to Milton I guess. Now let's have the Governor gun down 20 armed townspeople. Oh wait, none of them have guns now for some reason. Wait, now there are guns littering the ground. The whole fight at the prison was short and mediocre. So you make it a point to show the audience that one of the trucks parked on spikes and shredded its tires. Why? It doesn't ever matter.

You know what, I'm not going to bitch about any of the small stuff. We ended the season without a conclusion. Michonne and the Governor never have the final showdown nor do Rick and the Governor nor does anyone. There's no resolution. It's the season finale and we've got no resolution. The Governor guns down basically the whole town and drives off with two flunkies. See you next season.
 

Cybsled

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I'm telling you...Governor is going to become "Negan" in the show. They aren't leaving Georgia because of the tax credits, so any post-South stuff in the comics isn't going to happen. They are going to fold all those later storylines into what they have going on now in spirit.

The post-prison comics were weaker anyways, so this gives them some more leeway to develop a story. Plus rather than introducing some random psychopath villain later on, they can reuse the Governor and demonstrate what he has become (and the people he associates himself with) after he drops all the pretenses of being a "good guy".
 

Haus

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I'm also with the "Govenor has evolved.... into Negan" folks.

I figure with the addition of the older and children from the town now they will build out the prison and it will become more like it was in the comic. Next season will start showing the prison thriving and some minimal comments will explain how they went and took everything from Woodbury, and yadda yadda yadda. It saves them doing.... a montage!

As for giving up on the show? I'm ambivalent. THe show has gone from "watch every Sunday when it airs", to "watch monday or Tuesday on the DVR", to "miss a few weeks and catch up all at once". That's a definite downhill slide and not much further the go. The main problem is there's so little decent shit on anymore.
 

Tenks

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I'm telling you...Governor is going to become "Negan" in the show. They aren't leaving Georgia because of the tax credits, so any post-South stuff in the comics isn't going to happen. They are going to fold all those later storylines into what they have going on now in spirit.

The post-prison comics were weaker anyways, so this gives them some more leeway to develop a story. Plus rather than introducing some random psychopath villain later on, they can reuse the Governor and demonstrate what he has become (and the people he associates himself with) after he drops all the pretenses of being a "good guy".
Negan is one of my favorite characters from the comic and I don't possibly see how they could translate him into Negan. The Gov is supposed to be sort of chaotic evil and Negan more chaotic good. I mean since he was just introduced in the comics fairly recently it is hard to really get a handle but he's generally fairly reasonable as long as he gets his way.

I mean ... how the fuck would the audience buy into Rick now all of a sudden buying protection from the Gov like he does with Negan? How could Rick and the Gov possibly interact together?
 

Tuco

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What's annoying is that I hoped the group would be reduced down to the few characters that people like (Bye Andrea, Glenn, maggie, maggie's dad and maggie's sister), they'd leave their dumb prison and go back on the road, encountering people, exploring the new post-apoc landscape.

Instead they get what looks like a bunch more annoying people and are even more firmly rooted in the prison, lol.
 

chaos

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I'm telling you...Governor is going to become "Negan" in the show. They aren't leaving Georgia because of the tax credits, so any post-South stuff in the comics isn't going to happen. They are going to fold all those later storylines into what they have going on now in spirit.

The post-prison comics were weaker anyways, so this gives them some more leeway to develop a story. Plus rather than introducing some random psychopath villain later on, they can reuse the Governor and demonstrate what he has become (and the people he associates himself with) after he drops all the pretenses of being a "good guy".
I disagree, I think the comics were very strong during the prison arc but only got better after. The whole arc with the cannibal hunter guys was awesome, I thought. And the Hilltop arc, discovering that they really aren't alone and there are many organized groups.

I have no idea how you guys figure the Governor becomes Negan. Negan has hundreds of men, a huge fortress, fleets of vehicles, multiple groups paying him "protection." I just do not see the comparison at all. Plus Negan isn't just bugfuck crazy like the Governor apparently is now. And it isn't as if they can't just film in Georgia and call it Virginia or Kentucky or whatever.

Kind of unrelated, but when did it become controversial to call bad shows on their shit?
 

Tenks

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I was waffling between Lawful Evil and Chaotic Good. I think both could be used but perhaps Lawful Evil is a better description.

A chaotic good character acts as his conscience directs him with little regard for what others expect of him. He makes his own way, but he's kind and benevolent. He believes in goodness and right but has little use for laws and regulations. He hates it when people try to intimidate others and tell them what to do. He follows his own moral compass, which, although good, may not agree with that of society.
A lawful evil villain methodically takes what he wants within the limits of his code of conduct without regard for whom it hurts. He cares about tradition, loyalty, and order but not about freedom, dignity, or life. He plays by the rules but without mercy or compassion. He is comfortable in a hierarchy and would like to rule, but is willing to serve. He condemns others not according to their actions but according to race, religion, homeland, or social rank. He is loath to break laws or promises.
At the end of the day they've shown he has capacity for compassion but if you cross him or break his rules hell will come down on you.
 

chaos

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Negan is a fuckhole but he does, at least according to Jesus, keep his word and take care of the organized groups that pay the proper tribute.

At this point we're just spoiling the comics for everyone and that needs to stop. People should be encouraged to read the comics, they are really good, much better than the show would have you believe.