The Walking Dead

mysterion_sl

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not sure why all the hate for the last episode. i thought it was well done ... could have been better of course, but after that abomination of S3 that was easily the best/most entertaining episode.
 

Arbitrary

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You thought that this was the best/most entertaining episode? It's a low bar to set but still. Damn.

For me I thought that Clear, episode 12 with Morgan, demonstrated that the show was absolutely capable of beingamazing.The tragedy is that it isn't.
 

Tenks

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I still don't understand all the love for the Morgan episode. Everyone here complains about filler but that was an entire episode with no bearing on the main storyline in the least -- especially considering Rick's group didn't even get into a firefight with the prison. It was filled with just as many retarded moments as any other episode.
 

chaos

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It had actual character development, and Morgan was a well liked and quickly established character in the first episode. And it showed them doing something positive for once, getting weapons instead of yelling dramatically or getting abducted or whatever. That whole thing with the hitchhiker is about as subtle as this show gets as far as metaphors go. It wasn't perfect or anything, but it was good in context.

You can have your show be a soap opera. Shit, one of my favorite shows is Mad Men which is basically a soap opera for men. But if you do, the character development and story have to be there.
 

Gravel

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When the rest of the episodes are Andrea running back and forth from Woodbury to the prison and not accomplishing anything, an episode where something else happens is a welcome relief.
 

Shonuff

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It had actual character development, and Morgan was a well liked and quickly established character in the first episode. And it showed them doing something positive for once, getting weapons instead of yelling dramatically or getting abducted or whatever. That whole thing with the hitchhiker is about as subtle as this show gets as far as metaphors go. It wasn't perfect or anything, but it was good in context.

You can have your show be a soap opera. Shit, one of my favorite shows is Mad Men which is basically a soap opera for men. But if you do, the character development and story have to be there.
That was the best episode on the show that I can remember. I was hoping it was a sign to come, and then the show regressed back to mean.
 

Chukzombi

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That one episode was the exception. If just,half the season was like that id be looking forward to s4 instead of wanting to kill myself after watching s3 part1
 

chaos

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Reading other reviews and stuff, I guess the writers wanted us to agree with Herschel that Carl was unjustified in his murder-death-kill on Extra#5? Yeah, I don't see that.
 

Shonuff

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Reading other reviews and stuff, I guess the writers wanted us to agree with Herschel that Carl was unjustified in his murder-death-kill on Extra#5? Yeah, I don't see that.
Everyone should know by now, don't look at Carl funny. He's been sitting in the corner glowering like Batman since he shot his Mom. In life, there's people you just don't mess with.
 

Raes

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Reading other reviews and stuff, I guess the writers wanted us to agree with Herschel that Carl was unjustified in his murder-death-kill on Extra#5? Yeah, I don't see that.
Epic fail on their part then. If someone points a gun at you and tells you to drop your weapon you have three options:

1. Open your hand and drop it.
2. Crouch down and set it on the ground.
3. Hesitate, while getting all shifty-eyed and get shot in the face.
 

Tarrant

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Nope, I woulda shot the dude too. He just assulted the place I lived and wanted to kill me and those I'm with....then I found him in the woods and pointed a gun at him and told him to drop his. He said sure and wasn't dropping it while was inching forward toward me?

I shoot him in the face every single time.
 

Arbitrary

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If we were supposed to side with Herschel than they fucked up that scene. The kid was told to drop the gun and instead of dropping it he inched forward and tried to hand it over. Everything about it looked like he was going to try something even if he was some punk kid nobody. He came to the prison with trucks full of armed people including grenade launches and a 50 cal and he came to kill Carl and everyone he knows. Carl has seen what happens when people are just left to run away.

Ambiguous, fine. But intended for us to actively side with Hershel? Not a chance. And Carl's dialogue was spot on. If we were supposed to side against him they shouldn't have made him so reasonable.
 

Void

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That's what I've been saying!
2) If you're trying to convey that the kid handing the gun to Carl is totally complying and doesn't deserve to get shot, don't direct the actor to look like he's trying to goad Carl into getting closer like they do in every secret agent movie ever. I think it is pretty clear they *wanted* us to believe the kid was innocent and just complying, but he *looked* like he was trying to get Carl into range to disarm him. To me that's just terrible, terrible directing. Now it ruins the whole point of Carl being slighly psychotic, because hell, I might have shot the fucker too if he edged any closer.
 

Chukzombi

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I dunno why herschel even opened his piehole to rick about it. What did he expect rick to do? Tell carl not to kill armed people sent to kill him? Spank him?
 

Tenks

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Not saying this is good stuff for the future but the Morgan episode was directed by the new director of the show and the finalie was directed by the now fired director of the show
 

Goatface

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Dickerson isn't that bad of a director, he did some Wire and Treme and don't think there was any major uproar there. Brock, who only did Clear really doesn't have that big body of work.
It also hard just blame the writers, from what little i read is seems like it is Kirkman, whoever is charge atm, and the writer team and they debate/vote on shit that happens.
do think there is a major problem with the location setup and FX dept. there are so many scenes that you can tell someone dreamed up this cool thing and just have to shoehorn it in.
 

Sean_sl

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Woops, I think I accidently locked this for a bit by clicking on the envelope icon next to the thread name while I was clicking around and didn't notice.

My bad.