Thor: Ragnarok (2017)

Epic sidestep.

Thor beat Destroyer and your primary complaint about the movie is proven invalid via logic and precedence (Thor beating Destroyer in every instance is a plot device) but you don't want to admit it.

Jait_sl said:

Spider-Man was supposed to just be starting out and owned everyone with relative ease despite his awkwardness.

I didn't have a problem with it. These movies are supposed to be fun. When they forget that, we get BvS. Also those people need to recognize Spider-Mans role was really a 45 minute commercial to launch his franchise. They did good.

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Yeah, Spider man made sense. The reality is, powers are homogenized--Cap/Soldier ect are just stronger in this universe. Iron Man/Hulk/Thor are weaker. The general rankings are the same (In terms of strength, speed, the hierarchy from he comics remains)--but they are shifted closer relative to each other. Spider Man was clearly stronger and faster than most of the heroes, but Cap out fought him. Which is really understandable given he's a 16 year old kid who was extremely intimidated; and, in this universe, the gulf between Cap vs him in terms of strength and speed is much milder (Cap held down a chopper, after all.)

Lyrical_sl said:

I'm going to assume you just aren't paying attention, you are drunk/high, or trolling at this point.

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This is how the rest of us feel about 99% of your posts.

Eh..all of you should be able to admit that the fight between Thor and Destroyer was a let down. Now move on.

It was only a let down if you were retarded. There's no way MCU Destroyer could be anywhere near as powerful as its comic book counterpart without being the main bad guy of whatever movie it was in. If they ever want to soothe Lyrical's butthurt, they can bring it back and explain that it had some kind of limiter on its powers when Thor defeated it the first time, or some crap about how being on Midgard made it weaker or Loki's control of the Destroyer was imperfect and that's why it was so much weaker.

I was disappointed with Thor 1 due to the fight with Destroyer being less than I hoped. I was disappointed with Thor 2 even more. My first experience with Thor comic was during the Surtur/Ragnarok arc, so when I heard that Thor 2 would have Maelkith...I thought they were going to start that...but nope. I'm optimistic about Thor 3 due to the cast, and I'm really curious how they will bring these characters together.

Yeah it definitely would have made sense to have an extended fight scene with the destroyer right before the climactic fight scene with Loki.

Lyrical_sl said:

I'm still waiting on your logic. In the comics, Thor has to do things like teleport the Destroyer into another dimension, defeat the essence of the soul inside the Destroyer, or summon the entire Odinforce to beat it. Has base level Thor ever physically overpowered the Destroyer? I can't recall that ever happenining. The whole point in the comics, is that the Destroyer is the one foe vastly more powerful than base level Thor. In the movie, it is made of an unbreakable metal denser than Vibranium.



Thor has beaten the Destroyer every time? Clearly, you are clueless. Here's an idea, read this comic, and come back to this thread. Spoiler alert: The Destroyer kills Thor. That's Thor's soul (after it kills him) and being captured by Hela.

I'm going to assume you just aren't paying attention, you are drunk/high, or trolling at this point.

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So Thor -ever- beating the Destroyer is a plot point. Which is exactly how it was enacted in the movie. Ok, I guess I'm both drunk and high to see that something that is clearly plot-armor specific in comics is also plot-armor specific in the movie?

I've read a shitload of Thor comics, and outside of Deadpool he's by far my favorite. Has him beating the destroyer (you know, what we're talking about) ever -not- been plot oriented?

I'm not sure we are talking about the same stuff, nor are you and I arguing for the same topics. Thor has only ever beaten Destroyer as a plot device. Thor beating Destroyer in the movie was a plot device. How is this different?

Guys, guys, guys! there really is only 1 thing we need to ponder out of all of this...

The movies have taken off since The Avengers. Thor 1 was before that. If made in today's standards, the Destroyer fight would have been lengthy and badass.

Portman is cardboard. Hasn't been good in anything and has be of the worst in almost everything. She's decent when playing generic girl, because that's what she is. She has little range. It's disappointing because she has the look some want, but she doesn't have the chops so she should be chopped. She's JLaw territory, but worse. We gave those actors/resses a try/multiple tries and they've failed. Join Topher.

With that said, Avenger's Hulk had been of my favorite and I want moar. Tagging him with Thor is perfect, a pleasant surprise. I repeat the phrase "pseudo Planet Hulk". I expect them to fight, and I expect it to be glorious. My friends have been wanting Thor to let loose and on Hulk he may. And inbetween the action, there is room for plenty of banter.

Color me excited.

Edit: Why can't I open spoilers from this website, on the Droid?

Lyrical_sl said:

Not only that, but they won't be on a fragile Helicarrier this time.

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Oh, I imagine the backdrop to offer lots of cool interactions like a fighting game of busting through exotic things and mythical extras getting trampled under the crossfire.