Weight Loss Thread

Dashel

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It's fun to test yourself. A lot of programs base numbers off your 1RM or "training max" as well. So 8 reps at 75% of your 1RM for example.

I dont think it's particularly dangerous if you're smart about it. Learn to bail on a squat or use a cage. Spotter or roll of shame for bench. DL is just dont be stupid pretty much. Press either it goes or it doesnt.
 
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Dashel_sl said:
It's fun to test yourself. A lot of programs base numbers off your 1RM or "training max" as well. So 8 reps at 75% of your 1RM for example.

I dont think it's particularly dangerous if you're smart about it. Learn to bail on a squat or use a cage. Spotter or roll of shame for bench. DL is just dont be stupid pretty much. Press either it goes or it doesnt.
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I hear you about having proper spotting and shit. I'm talking more about injury coming from blowing out your knee or shoulder or whatever.
 
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That's the difference between this thread and the weight lifting thread in the Sports forum. This thread is for peoplebeforethey break themselves, and that thread is for peopleafterthey've become physically broken shells of their former selves.

I generally agree about pushing your strength too far. I work out because it improve health and makes me look sexy. I have no desire to push the numbers into "risk injuring yourself" range just for the sake of seeing high numbers.
 
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Famm_sl said:
Man Loses Weight With Beer And Sausage Diet CBS Minnesota
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Evo Terro is celebrating Oktoberfest by eating only sausage and drinking up to six beers a day. It comes out to about 15,000 calories a week.
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That only comes out to 2100 calories a day, I know it's just a headline trying to grab attention but I hate fad diets and this paleo/south beach/atkins/jenny craig bullshit. Calories in should be less than calories out, that's the only secret to dieting.
 
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Sorry dude but Atkins is not bullshit. It's grounded in science and created by a fucking medical doctor. Go read the book.
 
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McCheese_sl said:
That's the difference between this thread and the weight lifting thread in the Sports forum. This thread is for peoplebeforethey break themselves, and that thread is for peopleafterthey've become physically broken shells of their former selves.

I generally agree about pushing your strength too far. I work out because it improve health and makes me look sexy. I have no desire to push the numbers into "risk injuring yourself" range just for the sake of seeing high numbers.
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Some people like to challenge themselves and see how far they can go. That's totally cool. When I was younger, ya, I'd love to see how far I can "push the envelope". As I (and I'm sure most others) get older, that doesn't impress as much and just being able to be "healthy and somewhat sexy" works well into our schedules. The old guys who lift staggering numbers impresses me, though.

Keeping my weight in a manageable range despite all my bad habits is a pretty lofty goal for me now.

As for Atkins, I can only imagine that for anyone who enjoys drinking at all, this will/can destroy your liver/kidneys. And the rule of consuming less than you burn still (always) applies.
 
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Famm_sl said:
Man Loses Weight With Beer And Sausage Diet CBS Minnesota
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Beer isn't bad for you or anything. Yeah it's caloric and the alcohol isn't good really for protein synthesis but it also has nutritional value. It's way better than drinking soda or fruit juice. There was a study a while ago saying a beer is better to rehydrate you than water post-workout because of the carbs. In Germany a lot of people drink non-alcoholic beer after workouts.
 
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As for Atkins, I can only imagine that for anyone who enjoys drinking at all, this will/can destroy your liver/kidneys. And the rule of consuming less than you burn still (always) applies.
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Goddamn people... seriously. Read the book instead of listening to all these crack pot nutritionists who don't know what the hell they are talking about.
 
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"Sweden has become the first Western nation to develop national dietary guidelines that reject the popular low-fat diet dogma in favor of low-carb high-fat nutrition advice.

The switch in dietary advice followed the publication of a two-year study by the independent Swedish Council on Health Technology Assessment. The committee reviewed 16,000 studies published through May 31, 2013."

Sweden Becomes First Western Nation to Reject Low-fat Diet Dogma in Favor of Low-carb High-fat Nutrition | Health Impact News


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Dr. Eenfeldt also translated an article from a local Swedish newspaper covering the committee?s findings:

Butter, olive oil, heavy cream, and bacon are not harmful foods. Quite the opposite. Fat is the best thing for those who want to lose weight. And there are no connections between a high fat intake and cardiovascular disease.

On Monday, SBU, the Swedish Council on Health Technology Assessment, dropped a bombshell. After a two-year long inquiry, reviewing 16,000 studies, the report ?Dietary Treatment for Obesity? upends the conventional dietary guidelines for obese or diabetic people.

For a long time, the health care system has given the public advice to avoid fat, saturated fat in particular, and calories. A low-carb diet (LCHF ? Low Carb High Fat, is actually a Swedish ?invention?) has been dismissed as harmful, a humbug and as being a fad diet lacking any scientific basis.

Instead, the health care system has urged diabetics to eat a lot of fruit (=sugar) and low-fat products with considerable amounts of sugar or artificial sweeteners, the latter a dangerous trigger for the sugar-addicted person.

This report turns the current concepts upside down and advocates a low-carbohydrate, high-fat diet, as the most effective weapon against obesity.

The expert committee consisted of ten physicians, and several of them were skeptics to low-carbohydrate diets at the beginning of the investigation.
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Dashel

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And an Australian show on heart disease and cholesterol:



TL;DW No, saturated fats wont give you heart disease. Cholesterol is not related to heart disease. Watch out for too much sugar, which causes inflammation.
 
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Mind giving a bit more explanation than that? Because even from a layman's point of view, I don't see how stuff that clogs your arteries(cholesterol) doesn't contribute to heart disease.
 
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So basically what is suggested is that it all starts with inflammation. Once arteries get inflamed, cholesterol will be employed to try and repair the damage. If that repair ruptures from more stress or gets too large, you may develop a clot, which in turn causes a heart attack. So it's not that cholesterol clogs your arteries like sludge in a drain, it helps repair damage and that process might cause a blockage. So you can have a lot of cholesterol and have no issues, or a little and have heart disease because it's dependent on the damage to your arteries.

You can start that video at 21:00 to get a general explanation of this theory.
 
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Mind giving a bit more explanation than that? Because even from a layman's point of view, I don't see how stuff that clogs your arteries(cholesterol) doesn't contribute to heart disease.
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Didn't watch video, but dietary cholesterol doesn't cause increased cholesterol in your body. Just like eating fat doesn't automatically become body fat.
 
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So as of today I am down to 207. I went ahead and set a short term goal of 10 lbs by Dec 4th. For a couple of reasons, one I just want to be below 200 and two because I am about to transition back to day shift and I want to make sure my new clothes fit well> Which they do right now, actually, but you know, want to keep the progress up. If I manage to pull this off it won't be mind-blowing or anything, but it will definitely be ahead of the curve I have been on so I have to be pretty vigilant for the next month. Except for Thanksgiving, shit is going down on Thanksgiving.
 
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chaos_sl said:
So as of today I am down to 207. I went ahead and set a short term goal of 10 lbs by Dec 4th. For a couple of reasons, one I just want to be below 200 and two because I am about to transition back to day shift and I want to make sure my new clothes fit well> Which they do right now, actually, but you know, want to keep the progress up. If I manage to pull this off it won't be mind-blowing or anything, but it will definitely be ahead of the curve I have been on so I have to be pretty vigilant for the next month. Except for Thanksgiving, shit is going down on Thanksgiving.
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I've always found that short term goals (like 10 lb increments) worked far better in keeping me motivated than long term (I need to lose 75 lbs!) goals. You can hit those short term goals in a reasonable time frame and keep your motivation going strong which is the hardest part of losing weight (staying focused).
 
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I hit my first big milestone last week. Down 50 pounds since May this year by going keto (eliminating sugar from my diet).

Just thought I'd mention that.

Also, as someone that has tried and failed many many times dieting before, this is the most success I've had on any diet system. Bacon, eggs, butter, and shredded cheese every morning. Vegans hate me.
 
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chaos_sl said:
Even up north it gets pretty hot during the summer and spring, hot enough that you would be a sweaty mess I would think after biking to work. When I was in the Navy a few guys would do that but we had showers at work and a very lax policy about being on time when it came to working out. I commute 36 miles per day, also, and that doesn't count when I have to go to school which adds probably another 30 or so miles on. I don't ride bikes but that seems like a really long daily bike ride.

I really think that the overwhelming major cause of this obesity shit is diet. When I got fat, I didn't give a shit what I ate. I wasn't eating pizza rolls like chips yet or anything, but everyone has to bow at the feet of the master. A guy I know at work who is just fucking obscenely obese, he eats bullshit every day. Doughnuts, pop tarts, chips, fast food, soda, candy, etc. EVERY DAY. Dude one day bought a 12 pack of tacos from Taco Bell and ate that shit himself, in one meal, then ate again later. We go out to get food for lunch or something, this guy orders a meal and then another meal. We went to this sandwich place and he orders a sandwich, chips, a soda, and a salad. I explained to him the salad was a meal and he just says "I know." The other night, he is drinking a smoothie along with his meal. I explain to him that a smoothie is a meal replacement, not a fucking water replacement, he just doesn't care. He gets pissed when we criticize him but the dude is killing himself. Some men just want to watch the world burn.
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I made it pretty clear earlier that I was that guy. He eats because he's hungry, and the food available to him is loaded with sugar. He has the same problem I had where I'd eat a massive meal and throw up before the hunger went away. Laugh at people using genetics as an excuse, but for some percent of the population sugar is poison. Some people can't drink milk. Some people can't eat eggs. The land whales out there are my people, and sugar is the culprit.

Five months without sugar. Five months without hunger. This keto shit saved my life.
 
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