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Were does it mention in the first paragraph anything about professional athletes. Pulling things out your ass is hardly scientific is it
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Because he isn't a scientist or medical doctor.
And it is mentioned in the studies he is referencing. Go to the source if you want accurate information.
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So someone that writes a book covering training routines and diets and supplements and is intended for people to follow at home by themselves and gets results like these12 Week Body Plan Transformations | CarlGottlieb.comis not credible when it comes to muscle growth and fat loss. OK BUDDY!
People who engage in unscientific experimentation are not credible if they disagree with correctly carried out scientific work, yes. Not anymore than gamblers who believe they are on a hot streak are credible sources for explanations about statistics.
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Science and Medicine has told people for years that a low fat-high carb diet is the key to losing weight, how did that turn out.
I'll stick with following the proven advice of people that can actually get results as opposed to another internet nerd that won't post pics or stats and therefore has the same credibility as a paedophile in charge of organising a kids swimming gala
I'll stick with following the proven advice of people that can actually get results as opposed to another internet nerd that won't post pics or stats and therefore has the same credibility as a paedophile in charge of organising a kids swimming gala
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I don't want to jump on this shitwagon but it was posted, in this very thread in fact, that science and medicine weren't ever conclusive in their findings about low-fat being linked to better health and lower risks of things like heart disease. The US government paid tons of money for research that didn't prove anything in favor of their standpoint but championed it anyway. They literally fed America a lie.
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If we judged veracity completely on past record, no one would ever be correct.
Can we toss Ossoi in the RRP for a few days? He adds nothing to this (stellar)thread besides caliper masturbation.
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Yeah except posting links for to proven credible sources and authorities along with results to back up my argument, all I get in reply is bullshit fabricated reasons to doubt their credibility. eg "HE JUST WANTS TO INCREASE HIS NOTORIETY!"!!! or "LOLZ STEROIDS"
I'm also pretty sure that I'm the only one to have posted here that's actually you know, lost some weight
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I'll stop fuelling this argument if someone can design me for a daily meal plan that is low/zero carb, medium protein (165g / 1g per lb my current weight) and high fat AND that is paleo compatible and comes in at roughly 2000 calories (the amount I'm currently eating to cut further) and consists of as much real food as possible (eg pouring tbsps of olive oil over every meal to boost fat/calories isn't going to be filling enough).
The point is it's easier and much more practical to boost protein intake over fats and there's simply a lot more good choices available
The point is it's easier and much more practical to boost protein intake over fats and there's simply a lot more good choices available
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I... shouldn't even comment...
You probably just asked for about the easiest diet in the world to design... just eat animal meat/organs and super fibrous veggies. That gets you a solid amount of protein and a ton of fat. Fat is way easier to come by, cheaper, and can be found in far more variety than lean protein, and unless you want to eat chicken breast and non-fat cottage cheese the rest of your life, a low-carb diet would probably be >= 50% fat.
I seriously don't even know wtf you are talking about anymore. Please stop posting.
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What about pouring coconut oil over every meal?
And lol at protein being more practical than fat. Fat is cheaper and easier to add to a meal. Did you miss pages of butter sticks for breakfast? Take about any meal you make, I'm almost certain you add fat via cheese or butter and enhance the flavor at the same time. I'm serious, give me some examples, give me the odd ones.
And lol at protein being more practical than fat. Fat is cheaper and easier to add to a meal. Did you miss pages of butter sticks for breakfast? Take about any meal you make, I'm almost certain you add fat via cheese or butter and enhance the flavor at the same time. I'm serious, give me some examples, give me the odd ones.
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I bet he lives off illegally imported whale meat. That stuff is super lean (you need to cook it in like a kilo of butter). I promise I won't rat him out to the feds.
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If it's so easy to fit 165g of protein and get the rest of your calories from fat and to come in at 2000 calories then instead of saying it's easy then do it
Did you miss where I said pouring olive oil over every meal doesn't count, yeah neither does eating butter, jesus christ
You guys are missing the point, it's much more practical and easier (in my experience of 9 months of weight training/dieting and preparing every meal the night before) to cook 920g of chicken breast, 25g of cashew nuts and a 225 sirloin steak to get 2032 calories, 70g of fat and 346g of protein. I'm not ever going to have hunger issues with that much food available to me. The calories/carbs from spinach are inconsequential and I never add them to myfitnesspal
Now tell me how to get 2032 calories with 165g of protein (660 calories) with the rest coming from fat (1372) calories. and which doesn't involve anything non paleo or pouring fat/butter/coconut oil over every single meal. Don't forget we're playing by the rules which say anything over 1g/lb is pointless.
Please! Come up with meal options that are more appetising and filling than the food I posted
To the filling enough point, that is just getting your mind right. When I started to lose weight on a higher fat diet I had to learn the difference between hungry, not hungry, full, etc. It took a while, but right now I am not hungry pretty much all the time even through I am not full.
Sounds like you aren't a fatty like me, so it may be different. Won't be able to comment on that side of the fence for a while ;>.
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Walk your skinny little legs over to caloriecounter.com or whatever... look up different cuts of meat, and add + where appropriate. I am not doing it for you.
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Ossoi you really need to stop man. Boosting protein intake is neither easier, nor more practical than boosting fat intake like you are claiming. And why isn't using olive oil as a dressing on a salad or cooking chicken breast in olive oil "filling" enough? Eat some cheese, snack on some nuts, how is that impractical?
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You don't do sarcasm very well, do you?
You don't *eat* the butter. Though, since you've slurped coconut oil with meals, I can see how you thought I was advocating you should eat actual pats of butter. Actually, if it's a good tangy european butter, that doesn't sound that bad...
You cook with the butter. Saute your meats and veggies in it. Make a cheese sauce to put on them. The only time you come close to actually eating the butter is chicken kiev. Since you love chicken breast so much, that might be a good suggestion for you.
You don't *eat* the butter. Though, since you've slurped coconut oil with meals, I can see how you thought I was advocating you should eat actual pats of butter. Actually, if it's a good tangy european butter, that doesn't sound that bad...
You cook with the butter. Saute your meats and veggies in it. Make a cheese sauce to put on them. The only time you come close to actually eating the butter is chicken kiev. Since you love chicken breast so much, that might be a good suggestion for you.
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I have to admit, Norwegian butter is pretty delicious, I'll sometimes sneak a bite when cooking.
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Even though I used to lift almost daily, I'm getting back into it and going to start with a starting strength 5x5 program. Anyone have good results with it? Is it the right place to restart my lifting?
Edit: And also, is it a good starting point for women, or is there a better one?
Edit: And also, is it a good starting point for women, or is there a better one?