Weight Loss Thread

Ossoi

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Jesus you're a drama queen. 2 people disagree with something you posted, clearly it is time to freak out.
Its constant though and is not just in reply to me.

Lost count of the number of times people have posted a system that has worked for them for it to get shot down by the peanut gallery.

Calories in vs calories out, we all know it but it's not that simple hence why people struggle until they find what works for them and then they want to share it

We don't need " that diet/program is useless" after every post

And again, thanks for adding a useful insult

I've served my time, it's about time other people cleaned up their act in this thread too
 

Hekotat

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On week 2 of leg workouts for the first time ever, I forgot what it's like to go up and down stairs at a reasonable pace without using a handrail.



EDIT: To clarify the first week was the first time I ever worked legs in my life.
 

Gravel

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Its constant though and is not just in reply to me.

Lost count of the number of times people have posted a system that has worked for them for it to get shot down by the peanut gallery.

Calories in vs calories out, we all know it but it's not that simple hence why people struggle until they find what works for them and then they want to share it

We don't need " that diet/program is useless" after every post

And again, thanks for adding a useful insult

I've served my time, it's about time other people cleaned up their act in this thread too
It's not about you. Calm the fuck down. I was shitting on the plan...you know, the one where you posted a link to someone ALSO shitting on it.
 

chaos

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On week 2 of leg workouts for the first time ever, I forgot what it's like to go up and down stairs at a reasonable pace without using a handrail.



EDIT: To clarify the first week was the first time I ever worked legs in my life.
Yeah a couple of weeks ago I went to a new leg workout and it fucking killed me, like 4 days of just pain and dumb shit. It passes.
 

Itlan

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I think it has more to do with feeling satisfied throughout the day so you don't overeat at meals. Some people get legitimately hungry a lot sooner than other people. If they try to wait it out til they get to their "appropriate" meal time it can lead to overeating because they are so hungry. I didn't necessarily eat "small" meals but I did eat whenever I was hungry which meant I was usually eating 6-7 times per day when I was losing weight and it worked great for me. I would feel hungry so I would have a handful of sliced chicken (not even close to a meal, in actuality just a snack) and that would help me make it to my next "meal time" without my eyes getting bigger than my stomach so to speak. I think it's much better to eat when your hungry (actually hungry, not bored or depressed) than try to make it to your next meal without eating.
I definitely agree, I just see a lot of people who BELIEVE in order to lose weight you need to change your frequency of eating, or that it increases your metabolism. My friend text me the other day asking "how many meals do you eat a day?" I didn't even answer his question, I told him don't worry about it, just find what works for you and your daily schedule. When I was unemployed, I was eating 6 times a day. Now? I eat twice with a protein bar in the morning and have seen absolutely no change in my body, because my diet hasn't changed at all, I just eat 2 1000+ calorie meals as opposed to a varied 6 meal diet.
 

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I was always 5'7 and between 130-140lbs, but after my ex and I broke up in 2010 I gained a fuck ton of weight and at my height I was 205. When I got to London for school I started going to the University gym with a friend, and realized how beneficial having a friend to work out with really is. It makes it more about hanging out and talking shit or gossiping or joking about people's bodies than it does actual work. All we did was talk about the drunken shenanigans from the weekend before. After a couple weeks it became a habit, and I no longer cared if we went together. But if she wasn't there in the beginning, there's no way I woulda kept going. Once you get in the habit of it though, you feel miserable/depressed when you CAN'T make it to the gym. I couldn't start my day without it. 2 hours, every single day, sometimes skipping Sunday. You get such a great feeling/sensation of happiness once you get in that mode. I know it's annoying when people say that, and I never believed it either, but it really is true.

1 hour on the crosstrainer, 1 hour with weights. I lost 40lbs in the first couple months and then the remaining 30 in another 4 or 5 doing this, not monitoring or caring about my calorie intake at all (obviously not the best way, but it worked). I'm down to 128 now, and I never work out anymore and I eat horribly, it was just losing it after gaining it that was difficult. Seriously the best thing someone can do is have a friend to go to the gym with, particularly if they're in your same circle of friends. Force it to become a habit, and then you'll enjoy it and be fine without them. Crosstrainer is key if you're out of shape or overweight imo, because it doesn't require as much stamina as a treadmill or even a bike. I couldn't do a full minute on the treadmill back then, but I could go forever on a crosstrainer. So don't get discouraged by the lack of stamina/feeling like you're going to fucking die feeling, this is impossible... just find the right equipment and don't focus too heavily on the numbers, but on the hobby of going to the gym for a positive experience. Then if you're lucky your pants just won't fit one day.

Also, protein powder. Craving for sweets? Blend some chocolate powder as soon as it hits, force it down, tasty or shitty, it'll still get you past the sugar craving. I never used it during the weight loss period, but it helped me stay fit before I gained all that weight. I literally ate whatever the fuck I wanted when I lost all this weight, and probably had a shitty metabolism, half my calories were alcohol, but I still lost plenty of weight. Actually got water intoxication twice from working out so hard the day after heavy drinking haha, that sucked. If you sweat during exercise for an hour a day, you'll lose weight, end of story. Couldn't have done it w/o crosstrainer or a friend at the start, going at the same time every day and catching this TV show that was always on at the same time for 2 hours also helped. Any distraction is huge.
 

ubiquitrips

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In-laws, god bless them. They are so confusing and annoying when it comes to weight loss.

I had an experience with my mother / sister / cousin in-law this weekend. They are super glad for the weight loss, but when I told them I still plan on losing another 40 lbs or so they just went "Oh, really, there is that much more to lose?" like I am not still a fat bastard and I would dwindle down to nothing if I did that. They seem ok with compromising rather than taking it through to the end, makes no sense.
 

Khane

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After I had started losing weight in college I noticed something very interesting. I had lost about 70 lbs and still wanted to lose another 30 and when I told people that I got two distinct reactions. Women would say things like "Really? You don't need to lose anymore weight you look great" and men would say things like "Nice dude, keep it up". I think men and women just have very different ideas of what being supportive means.
 

Deathwing

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Quick, name me something that weighs 40 lbs.

That is not a weight people deal with commonly, so they can't just look at you, after you've changed already, and accurately eyeball how much more you should lose. They just think "40 is a lot!".

I still get shit from my family about being too thin. I used to be between 210-230, 6' for most of my teenage life. I lost most of that during college, about 180, and then about 3 years ago the wife started going to the gym and I went with her and I'm around 160 now. Completely normal BMI for my height. Maybe they're used to the fat you.
 

McCheese

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I think the big problem is that most Americans' view of what a healthy weight looks like is completely fucked up. People are so used to seeing fatties everywhere that they've forgotten what a normal, healthy body weight looks like.

I also think some of it is unconscious jealousy. People see you successfully changing your lifestyle and getting into great shape while they don't have the willpower to do the same, so they try to sabotage you with subtle comments hoping to stop or reverse the change so they feel better about themselves.
 

Gravel

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After I had started losing weight in college I noticed something very interesting. I had lost about 70 lbs and still wanted to lose another 30 and when I told people that I got two distinct reactions. Women would say things like "Really? You don't need to lose anymore weight you look great" and men would say things like "Nice dude, keep it up". I think men and women just have very different ideas of what being supportive means.
That's interesting. I'm the opposite of most of you (was 5'10" 135 lbs until I was 25) and have been bulking for a while now. I'm 175 right now and looking to get to 180 by the end of the year. I was talking about my plans and how I was going to cut in January; probably about 10-15 pounds, or whatever it'll take to get to 10-12% body fat. Girl I work with was like "Are you crazy? Where are you going to get that much weight to lose?" I guess maybe it's because I carry most of my weight in my gut, but I feel like I've got plenty to shed.

I've also heard from many people that the reaction to a cut will be people asking you if you're putting on weight since they can actually start seeing the muscle separation. I'd say McCheese is dead on about how people have no idea what muscle and fat look like on a person.

I know for sure that's true when it comes to muscle. People read these retarded plans about putting 20 pounds of muscle on in 6 months and think it's realistic. Go to a grocery store and buy 20 pounds of lean meat and tell me how ridiculous that now sounds.
 

Khane

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I have no idea what its like to try to gain weight to bulk up. I was losing the entire time I was making strength gains because I was such a gigantic fat slob when I started. 5'10 135lbs? Goddamn man. I think the last time I weighed 135lbs I was about 13 years old and back then I wasn't even really all that fat, just a little husky. I'm 5'10 as well and I was in phenomenal shape at 175lbs. It's hard for me to picture a grown man weighing less than 150lbs.
 

Gravel

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Sounds like fat privilege to me. It's still an ass pain to gain weight for me. I get sticking points, generally around the 1x0 - 1x5 area. Right now I've been stuck between 172-174 for almost 2 months. A lot of it is persistence when I've got to work around things that throw my eating off. Had 2 sets of family members visit in October, and I was gone to San Diego for 2 weeks. That really makes it difficult to eat enough food, since I gain by eating constantly. I can't really put a lot of food down in a single sitting, so to get my calories it's eating all day long.

My work days are generally 6am, 7:30am, 9am, 11:30am, 1pm, 5:30pm, 7:30pm, 8:30pm, 9:15pm. A lot of that is snacking (7:30 and 1 are both just a granola bar, 9 is 2 servings of peanuts, 8:30 is just a protein shake). But if you include snacking as a "meal" like how it seems most people on diets work it out, that's 9 of em. Generally I try to hit 2800-3000+ calories.
 

Gravel

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My ultimate goal is 180-185 at 10-12% body fat (maybe even as low as 8%, but I'm not sure that's feasible to keep up long term). My gut is getting rather large though, so I really think it's about time I lose some fat -- my wife says I look great though, but what the fuck does she know? I'd start now, but I feel like dropping to 160 is going to make me incredibly small looking. I really don't want to drop below 165 ever again if I can help it. So instead I'll probably pack a bit more fat on in the next 7 weeks before starting the cut. At best I'll add on another 3 pounds of muscle (unlikely), and probably lose it with the fat.
 

Ossoi

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My ultimate goal is 180-185 at 10-12% body fat (maybe even as low as 8%, but I'm not sure that's feasible to keep up long term). My gut is getting rather large though, so I really think it's about time I lose some fat -- my wife says I look great though, but what the fuck does she know? I'd start now, but I feel like dropping to 160 is going to make me incredibly small looking. I really don't want to drop below 165 ever again if I can help it. So instead I'll probably pack a bit more fat on in the next 7 weeks before starting the cut. At best I'll add on another 3 pounds of muscle (unlikely), and probably lose it with the fat.
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Dashel

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My ultimate goal is 180-185 at 10-12% body fat (maybe even as low as 8%, but I'm not sure that's feasible to keep up long term). My gut is getting rather large though, so I really think it's about time I lose some fat -- my wife says I look great though, but what the fuck does she know? I'd start now, but I feel like dropping to 160 is going to make me incredibly small looking. I really don't want to drop below 165 ever again if I can help it. So instead I'll probably pack a bit more fat on in the next 7 weeks before starting the cut. At best I'll add on another 3 pounds of muscle (unlikely), and probably lose it with the fat.
How tall are you? I'm 5'10 and that's my goal weight and BF% as well, near enough. You probably mentioned already somewhere but have you done Starting Strength or something similar?
 

Gravel

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How tall are you? I'm 5'10 and that's my goal weight and BF% as well, near enough. You probably mentioned already somewhere but have you done Starting Strength or something similar?
I probably posted my history in the weight lifting thread, although that may have been on FoH.

Did Starting Strength from approx Jan 2009 - May 2009. I started off very light. I will edit with exact numbers when I get home, but approximates for reps (pounds):
Squat: 65
Deadlift: 95
Bench: 55
Military Press: 45

I went back to college and decided I finally needed to make a body weight change from the previously mentioned 135 pounds.

Around May 2009 I was an idiot and did a 4 day split. I was on and off from September 2009 until April 2011 due to injuries and just laziness (I think I played AION or EQEmu's or some shit during this time and it fucked me up). My best lifts by the time I graduated were:
Squat: 275x1
Deadlift: 375x5
Bench: 195x5
Military Press: 135x5

I started back up in the gym November 2012, although about 2 weeks into it I went on travel for a month for work. So I didn't really start hard again until about midway through December 2012. Been doing the same 4 day split I was before, but I change it often. The changes are mostly due to injuries or if I feel like something needs tweaking in the routine (an example, I dropped shrugs completely since I was getting pinching in my neck). My split is:

Chest/Biceps
Flat Bench Press: 3x3
EZ Bar Curl: 3x8
Incline Bench Press: 3x5
Hammer Curls: 3x10
Speed Dumbbell Flat Press: 2x20 (this is basically press as fast as possible while still controlled)

Legs
High Bar Back Squat: 3x3
Pin Squats: 2x8 (110% max squat weight, from pins sets mid-belly)
Bulgarian Split Squats: 3x5
Standing Calf Raises: 3x12

Shoulders/Triceps
Military Press: 3x5
Close Grip Bench Press: 3x8
Side Lateral Raises: 3x10
Skullcrushers: 3x8
Tricep Pushdowns: 2x10 (burnout sets)

Back
Deadlift: 1x5
Low Cable Rows: 3x10
Lat Pulldown: 2x8
Pullups: 1 Burnout Set
Facepulls: 3x15

I basically took Starting Strength and altered it a bunch (hence the 3x5's on compounds and 1x5 deadlift). The stuff like bench and squats where it's 3x3 is because it had been 3x5 but the shit is getting way too heavy for me to do a full set. When I start my cut I'll probably go up to 3x8's or so at a lower weight and build back up. My current best lifts are:
Squat: 285x4
Deadlift: 405x1 or 380x5
Bench: 220x4
Military Press: 140x5
EZ Bar Curl: 105x8

Looking at my lifts I always feel like the numbers are low (especially squat) but for being not quite 175, it apparently puts me at the upper end of intermediate, lower end of advanced (except squat which is firmly intermediate). I set goals for the end of the year of 1 plate military, 2 plate bench, 3 plate squat, and 385 deadlift back in like June and it's looking like I'll hit them all except squat (and I already hit 4 plate dead a month ago which exceeded my goal). I could still probably hit 3 plate squat, but it basically would require going up 5 lbs every week. And since I only squat once a week, that shit takes its toll.