Weight Loss Thread

ubiquitrips

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I think it depends on the program. I am sure there are sessions that are more about stretching / flexibility. The DDP Yoga ones get my heart rate into the aerobic zone for a majority of the workout, so I think so? Some of them will spike my heart rate into anaerobic for 5 minutes or more at a time depending on what is going on.
 

Khane

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I would say Yoga most definitely promotes weight loss, especially things like Vinyasa yoga which are short duration pose holds with lots of activity.

I sweat like a pig when I do even beginner Vinyasa and I feel amazing afterwards. I don't do it nearly as much as I should because it really... really hurts while I'm doing it (both my shoulders are pretty fucked up) but when I'm done I feel tired yet relaxed and energized (if that makes any sense at all).
 

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It's stuff like that that makes me think Ossoi is just a troll. 14 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, unless you're taking GH or steroids.

Even ignoring the outlandish claims, plans like that irritate me. 6 weeks, 12 weeks, 18 weeks. Whatever. It's basically for people who want a get fit quick scheme. And there's no such thing. If you're in this for change, you're in it for the long haul.

That said, I'd like Ossoi to post his results. Measurements, pictures, lifts, everything.
Gaining 14 pounds in 6 weeks period is pretty extreme, nevermind 14 pounds of muscle. I think even with d-bol 14 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks is impossible.
 

Ossoi

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It's stuff like that that makes me think Ossoi is just a troll. 14 pounds of muscle in 6 weeks is PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE, unless you're taking GH or steroids.

Even ignoring the outlandish claims, plans like that irritate me. 6 weeks, 12 weeks, 18 weeks. Whatever. It's basically for people who want a get fit quick scheme. And there's no such thing. If you're in this for change, you're in it for the long haul.

That said, I'd like Ossoi to post his results. Measurements, pictures, lifts, everything.
How am I trolling by posting a link to a book which is marketed on someone elses results? As it's someone elses results then I don't know why my results are relevant. And I love how you guys continually bash stuff without even reading it.

What's wrong with a 12 week plan with a structured workout program, diet guide and supplement regime? You guys can read the first chapter of the 12wbp here12 Week Body PlanThe 12wbp raison d'etre was to get someone from out of shape to covermodel condition in 12 weeks, again the collection of results I've posted already confirms this is possible.

Regardless, I've never shied away from full disclosure on this thread and here's my before/after pic, taken in Feb 2013 and end of August 2013. I wasn't ready when he took the pic (as should be obvious if you compare my hair in each picture) and I wasn't particularly tensing...that's why I uploaded a different pic taken at home a few months ago
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I don't have details of lifts and stuff because my PT logged all that for me and the movements he had me doing changed every 3 weeks so that's a lot of stuff to try and recall

Best thing I can tell you is that I couldn't do one chinup on my first session and had to be lifted to the top of the movement in order to do a negative motion only and even then I could barely hold on, I can now do 12. You should also know that before I signed up I told him "I only care about getting lean, I don't care about strength and don't want to get muscular" so the first 6 months were focused on fat loss as opposed to strength/hypertrophy. It was only for the third and final program I worked with him that we switched to hypertrophy focus, and even the first 6 weeks of 12 was spent cutting down to 10%.

I've been training on my own for the last 2 weeks using the 12wbp and eating at a deficit...Once I hit 10% I started too bulk too quickly and used it as an excuse to eat rubbish food so quickly went back up to 12% body fat. I've been eating at a deficit to cut back down and using the 12wbp to kill time until the 6wbp by same author is released. I have full confidence in the author and his methods


And as for a 60kg individual putting on 6kg of muscle in 6 weeks. Do you really think it's that impossible if that individual is training constantly under the supervision of one of the best PT's in Europe, if not the World and has the funds to take every single supplement prescribed and follows the training regime and diet 100% of the way? Now factor in that 60kg individual is a lanky beanpole with probably a high metabolism who struggles to put fat on and probably dicked around in the gym before starting the plan, and who all of a sudden starts training properly with full intensity - then 6kg of muscle doesn't sound too unrealistic does it
 

McCheese

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And as for a 60kg individual putting on 6kg of muscle in 6 weeks. Do you really think it's that impossible if that individual is training constantly under the supervision of one of the best PT's in Europe, if not the World and has the funds to take every single supplement prescribed and follows the training regime and diet 100% of the way? Now factor in that 60kg individual is a lanky beanpole with probably a high metabolism who struggles to put fat on and probably dicked around in the gym before starting the plan, and who all of a sudden starts training properly with full intensity - then 6kg of muscle doesn't sound too unrealistic does it
It still sounds unrealistic.

Then again, I don't know anyone who actually takes the claims about results from body building and weight loss programs seriously. It's common knowledge that even if the results aren't outright lies, they are heavily exaggerated or filled with misleading information.

I don't see anything wrong with either of those plans (6 or 12 week body plans) because any exercise and diet plan, if followed strictly and consistently, will show positive results. In fact, I don't think anyone is saying that the plans won't get results, it's just that anyone who follows these plans should keep in mind that the optimal results being advertised by the program are highly unlikely, if not impossible.

That said, I tend to agree with Elurin about these "X week plans". They're fine in theory, but I'd rather do/find something that lasts my entire life and not a specified amount of time. I feel the same way about P90x and similar programs, as well as "diets" (meaning temporary, limited food intake) rather than "a diet" (as in the food you eat in general to stay alive).
 

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I don't have details of lifts and stuff because my PT logged all that for me and the movements he had me doing changed every 3 weeks so that's a lot of stuff to try and recall
I meant I'd like for you to log, in this thread, your results from the 12 week plan. So it's something you could do still. I'm just curious what the actual results would be.

And as for a 60kg individual putting on 6kg of muscle in 6 weeks. Do you really think it's that impossible if that individual is training constantly under the supervision of one of the best PT's in Europe, if not the World and has the funds to take every single supplement prescribed and follows the training regime and diet 100% of the way? Now factor in that 60kg individual is a lanky beanpole with probably a high metabolism who struggles to put fat on and probably dicked around in the gym before starting the plan, and who all of a sudden starts training properly with full intensity - then 6kg of muscle doesn't sound too unrealistic does it
When I said physically impossible, I meant it. The body just can't synthesize protein into muscle that quickly. GH and testosterone allow the body to do that quicker, which is why it might be possible on one of them.

Read this link. It's even from your best friend Lyle McDonald.

What's My Genetic Muscular Potential?
 

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I purchased the whole shebang of DDP Yoga from the website. I like DDP so I figured I would give him my money.

I completed the 13 week beginner Yoga program 2 weeks ago and I have started on the Intermediate. The beginner program is perfect for beginners (duh I guess). I started the program at over 250 lbs and I was still able to progress nicely. There is a moderate amount of falling, mouth breathing, and swearing in the beginning.

For me, I noticed an increase in flexibility (can touch my toes again, success) and my muscles are...harder? Basically, instead of being soft when I flex, they are actual muscles now. This is noticed the most in the legs where a large majority of the work is focused around. Balance is another area this has helped with. The workouts can be very frustrating in the beginning when you lose your balance all the time.

After completing the 13 week program I was able to do 3 of the 4 workout sessions at 100% and the final workout (Diamond Cutter!) was about 70%. That one is a 50 minute workout that you only do as the last workout of the last day of beginner, it is tough. The intermediate program starts working that particular work out in half way through every Friday. The other workouts are around 25 minutes long. There is a core workout that I am just horrible at that is added on to the end of some of the workouts.

I checked out the diet plan in the workout booklet and I decided not to go with it. The diet has 3 phases, I would describe them as Keto > Paleo > and super Paleo or something like that. Basically, the first phase has you cut carbs (sugar, bread,etc). The second phase removes dairy and...something else. I don't remember much of the third phase, it was probably gluten removal or something.

If you have seen the video of Arthur on his website, he did a custom workout with phase 3 of the diet with really impressive results.

I would recommend this program to anyone as it has been a great benefit to me. The novelty factor wears off, but by that time a habit has formed.
Thanks for the info... What package did you get? seems like you grabbed the first one? Something like $60?
 

Ossoi

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I meant I'd like for you to log, in this thread, your results from the 12 week plan. So it's something you could do still.]
Well as soon as the 6wp comes out my plan is to purchase that and start using that. They've said it will be in the next fortnight so happy to log everything beginning to end, I'll probably get my PT to caliper me on day 1 and at the end. If you guys are nice enough to me I might even get DEXA scanned
 

Ossoi

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It still sounds unrealistic.

Then again, I don't know anyone who actually takes the claims about results from body building and weight loss programs seriously. It's common knowledge that even if the results aren't outright lies, they are heavily exaggerated or filled with misleading information.
Well the 12wbp has a whole section devoted to prepping for a photoshoot, specifically in the week leading up to the shoot: carb depletion then carb loading, excessive water drinking (6-7litres a day then stopping water intake at 6pm the day before), waxing your chest and getting a fake tan, then a high carb high fat high sodium meal on the morning of the shoot and finally maximising of the pre-shoot pump.

So yes, any physical improvement is highlighted as much as possible via rather extreme methods but the same methods are probably followed by any cover model and that was the raison d'etre of the book
 

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Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a low or 0 calorie sauce similar to ketchup / BBQ? I love putting BBQ sauce on my chicken breasts but after looking at the label (2 tablespoons a server with 100 calories per serving) that won't be happening anymore.
 

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Try making your own sauce. Those storebought sauces are basically a sugar solution with some salt in them. Try some different mustards, or vinegar sauces.
 

ubiquitrips

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Vinegar is the way to go. I will see if I can find the recipe. My wife made some crock pot ribs a couple of months ago and it was largely a vinegar type 'bbq' sauce.
 

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Does anyone have any recommendations on what to use for a low or 0 calorie sauce similar to ketchup / BBQ? I love putting BBQ sauce on my chicken breasts but after looking at the label (2 tablespoons a server with 100 calories per serving) that won't be happening anymore.
You could give the Walden Farms stuff a try. You can find at least some of the sauces in your local Cub. I've only actually tried the calorie free pancake syrup which was pretty good, all things considered. But you might want to look up reviews as I think the different stuff they have is probably hit or miss.

Walden Farms | Calorie Free Specialties
 

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Mind linking that 100 cal bbq sauce? That seems a little excessive, even for bbq sauce.

Either way, you should be making your own. It's really easy. Most sauces are that don't require fermentation(soy sauce, Worcestershire, etc) or hours upon hours of boiling and a grove(maple).
 

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100 cal for 2 TBSP? Damn yo. There are plenty of BBQ sauces out there that are 25-30 calories for 2 TBSP. Much less guilt for dousing my chicken.
 

McCheese

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BBQ sauces are one of those things that people tend to forget about when factoring in their calories, or at the very least they severely underestimate it. I just checked the random BBQ sauce I've got in the fridge (Sweet Baby Ray's) and it has 70 calories per 2 tbsp. I can easily imagine some of the super sweet and thick BBQ sauces getting over 100.

I love it when fat people order grilled chicken because it's healthier than fried, then proceed to dump half a cup or more of BBQ sauce all over it. "My genes make me fat! I eat grilled chicken and can't lose weight!" Yeah, because you're drowning it in a few hundred extra calories.
 

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Ketchup is hardly fattening lol.

So I had this "Double Down" from MMG today, I have no idea how many calories were in this thing but it was pretty fucking good for fast food. Sirloin steak, chicken, turkey bacon, reduced fat cheese (stupid), and western potatoes. Fucking delicious.