Weight Loss Thread

Holy shit at 1300 calories. I nearly eat that before I walk out of the door for work. I'd seriously lose my mind if I tried going a day on that.

You guys are so ridiculous. "1300 calories? Lol! As soon as you start eating 1800 calories again you're going to gain 40 lbs... in 2 weeks probably!!". Most of you are usually way better at critical thinking.

I'm doing this for like 3-4 weeks max just to check results. Calm down.

Well I have no idea how that would effect your metabolism which is why I made no comment on that. You may have posted them before, but what are your stats atm?

5'10"
198lbs
36" waist (measured by an actual tailor, I buy 34" waist pants off the rack for jeans and such)
31 years old

I don't know my chest and shoulder measurements

As far as what I was lifting before I tried this... I've been out of the gym for 4 months with a separated shoulder and this is my second week back. Before the injury my lifting stats were


Today was chest day and I could barely get 225 up twice.

I eagerly await your new title of Zombie Khane when you die of starvation yet still post on the boards

Haha, the separated shoulder happened while snowboarding.

I separated it in February snowboarding, and then I re-injured it in August doing yoga of all things (although I did tweak it trying to push myself on chest day). So yes it's possible that I could re-injure it again but it won't be because of my calorie intake. It will be because I have fucked up shoulders and a pre-existing condition. Shoulder feels pretty good right now. It'll be a day to day assessment. I like how you guys act like I couldn't possibly know anything about this. I'm not some noob coming here asking for weight loss advice for the first time in my life. This is an experiment to see how ludicrous the calorie intake suggestions on MyFitnessPal are and because I am genuinely curious. I appreciate all the concern but I am not trying to power lift or gain strength, I'm easing into it. Today I did 135 as a warm up then 185 (shoulder felt fine so I went up) -> 205 (again shoulder felt fine) -> 225 (First rep felt a little heavy and second rep my body said "that's about it dude" so I racked it and moved on). And yes... I had a spotter.

Anyway. Got my digital scale. Goddamn was my analog scale way off. Official weigh in of 194.4 (and I weighed myself 3 times and got the same exact reading all three times).

I went over my calorie limit by 300 today. I went out on a date and had 254 calories to spare so I got a beer. One beer. It was a Goose Island Bourbon County Stout (so goddamn good). I figured "well maybe it will be a little over 254 calories". Came back, put it in MyFitnessPal... 594 fucking calories. Hahaha, What the fuck?!? Totally worth it though.

Khane_sl said:

I went over my calorie limit by 300 today. I went out on a date and had 254 calories to spare so I got a beer. One beer. It was a Goose Island Bourbon County Stout (so goddamn good). I figured "well maybe it will be a little over 254 calories". Came back, put it in MyFitnessPal... 594 fucking calories. Hahaha, What the fuck?!? Totally worth it though.

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Was it on tap? It would be less, pretty sure they're taking the caloric value from the specialty bottle.

Yes it was on tap. But Google says a 12oz bottle of it is 475 calories so it seems it's accurate.

Just because this article reflected my own experiences, especially this part:

If you consider yourself a healthy eater, chances are you've accidentally done some variation of paleo before. You cut processed food, then filled up on meat, vegetables, and the occasional fruit. Before paleo, old school bodybuilders, wrestlers, and fighters trying to make weight just called it "cutting starches."

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But of course there's more to it than that. I suppose most people who consider themselves healthy eaters AND weight lifters or bodybuilders know this way of eating. But there are people who eat bean sprouts, tofu, whole grain breads and cereals and avoid any saturated fats especially animal fats who think that is health eating too.

T NATION | Paleo: The Good, Bad, and the Ugly

The Good

Have no doubt, if North Americans followed even a relaxed form of paleo, we'd have no obesity problem. We'd be a leaner, healthier society, one less dependent on prescription meds, Spanx, and Photoshop. Paleo, and all its ancestral varieties, taught us to question conventional wisdom that came from many doctors, dietitians, and health officials.

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The Bad

Eating full-on paleo is inadequate for part of the population: our part ? iron lifters, strength seekers, and athletes. Here's why: Our workouts and physique goals require more than what's allowed on paleo ? more carbs, advanced workout nutrition, and fast-digesting protein.

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The Ugly

We like boundaries and structure. We want to hear someone say "don't eat that." Because then there's certainty, no hemming and hawing about the fudge. Clear boundaries give us a sense of control because then we know what to eat and what to avoid.

But when a fit person feels guilty about "indulging" in beans there's a problem, and it's not the beans. It involves becoming hyper-restrictive and taking a sometimes-useful strategy too far.

Paleo can get ugly with its boundaries, especially if those boundaries make you freak out over things that never caused you problems in the first place. If you eliminate something from your diet for an extended period of time and notice no benefits, then add it back and notice no pitfalls, it's not worth worrying about. Especially if you're already fit.

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Big Phoenix_sl said:

Eating bread or rice doesnt make you unhealthy. Eating frozen pizzas or boxes of twinkies makes you unhealthy.

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Eating a lot of white bread and white rice has almost no nutritional benefit, especially white bread which is made with refined white flour (which is one of the worst things for your health on the planet). So actually yes, depending on what kind of bread you are eating it absolutely does make you unhealthy.

How Bread with Refined White Flour Affects Your Health

White bread taste like shit.

Unless it's a nice slice of Italian bread. That shit is delicious.

But yeah, multrigrain ftw.

Tuco_sl said:

I don't think our nation could feed itself on a paleo diet anyway. It's too expensive.

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This is and isn't true. Dollar menus, canned foods and frozen entrees are indeed cheaper than fresh produce and meat. However, not by so much that you can't feed yourself on a very tight budget. It's really an excuse. I used to feed myself on about $25-$50 per week in college while I was doing Atkins (the correct way). My 3 roommates and I chipped in for a BJ's membership and bought in bulk. Buying chicken breast cutlets, big bags of broccoli, spinach and bell peppers, eggs and occasionally some pork sausage and red meat from any of those club stores is actually quite inexpensive. Not to mention that the butcher shops tend to be alot better than your local grocery chain. It's a misconception that doing a low carb diet like paleo is expensive. It helped that I drink nothing but water and we had a filtered pitcher. Not buying drinks saves you a TON of money.

The funny thing is your hunger will be managed and sated much better doing paleo than eating the cheap food and in turn you will eat less. You will also lose weight and in turn continue eating even less. You will end up spending far less eating appropriately than eating the cheaper shit. The problem is education in health. Most people still have no idea what eating healthy really entails and still buy into the farce that is low fat ideology. Also, poor people tend to not care about what is and isn't healthy and can't think in terms of sustainability over a long period of time. They see that they can feed their family for 12 dollars at McDonalds and compare that to the 20 it's going to cost them for chicken cutlets and veggies and just choose the dollar menu ignoring the fact that the 20 dollar meal will be more satisfying, much healthier, and probably leave them with leftovers.