Weight Loss Thread

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Ossoi posted his pictures a while ago in this thread. He's skinny as hell and has an erudite forehead.
 

chaos

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Even if Ossoi is built like fucking He-man, 15% body fat is not "fat". The weight loss he is talking about isn't really the same as what everyone else here is talking about. It is as if he was really looking for a bodybuilding thread and couldn't find it so just said fuck it and started posting in this one.
 

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Even if Ossoi is built like fucking He-man, 15% body fat is not "fat". The weight loss he is talking about isn't really the same as what everyone else here is talking about. It is as if he was really looking for a bodybuilding thread and couldn't find it so just said fuck it and started posting in this one.
You're right, my goals are different to those who just want a smaller number on the scales. but then so are Elurins, after all he was posting about his lifts and said he wants to get to 10% body fat.

My point was for anyone like Elurin and I, starting a bulk at 15% is lolz because by our standards that's already fat. I would expect that if he actually got his bf measured at start of his "bulk" and end he'd find he'd actually put on more fat and less muscle than he thinks.

If he wants to do that fine, as I said I just don't see the point in traditional bulk/cut cycles, I'd rather stay lean and healthy all year round
 

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The people here don't "just" want smaller numbers on the scale. 15% body fat is a healthy place to be, depending on other factors of course. My impression of Elurin's goal was that he was bulking only to cut later, but I don't really know much about that shit and frankly I kind of gloss over it when you guys go on about it. Either way, by any standard, 15% isn't fat.
 

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Looted a vitamix over Christmas. Thing is badass.. I'll be back preaching juicing soon...=p
 

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You'll be back preaching a terribly unhealthy way to pack a shitload of sugar into a small glass of liquid? We've had this discussion before. Eating an orange = good. Throwing 10 oranges into a Vitamix to get one 10 oz glass of orange juice = bad.
 

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Anyone doing the resolution thing?

I never really do that, but I always find it interesting to watch other people and figured reevaluating my progress is a good idea. I've made good progress (still have another 15-20ish lbs to go imo) but I am trying to identify changes I should make. Like, I have a tendency to take my nutrition less seriously on days when I don't go to the gym, so I want to stop doing that. I also have way too many cheat days and need to get that shit under control, but part of that is just the holidays lately, over the summer I was more conservative with them. I also want to get a more well-defined program going at the gym. I have looked at some programs like Nerd Fitness and stuff and they are pretty much doing what I have already been doing, just with more variation. So I want to work on that. But I'm starting all this now, not waiting for the new year.
 

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My usual recommendations would be to first make sure you're mixing up your workouts. I always enjoyed every couple of months to completely switch up some of my lifts. I always questioned if it actually did anything (muscle memory and all that), but I figured it was worth a shot and since I always saw results I just kept at it.

Additionally, blaming things on the holidays is no good. I splurge a little, but too many people go "whelp it's the holidays [eats 30 extra cookies]." My wife is that way anyways. It might be different because you have kids, but even if I am eating bad food, I still try to load up on meat and vegetables at holiday meals and eat less of the sweets.

I've always had trouble with cheat days, I can't give advice. It was far too delicious and convenient to go to Burger King than to eat chicken breasts.

A resolution is a good idea. Are you tracking food with an app like Myfitnesspal or anything? That always kept me pretty honest.
 

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You'll be back preaching a terribly unhealthy way to pack a shitload of sugar into a small glass of liquid? We've had this discussion before. Eating an orange = good. Throwing 10 oranges into a Vitamix to get one 10 oz glass of orange juice = bad.
It doesn't quite work like that.. Well I won't be throwing 10 oranges in one. This doesn't discard anything btw.. I know juicers do. There is a shit load of debate about how much fiber the body absorbs.. But most of the stuff I will do are made up of veggies and I'll get plenty of fiber from eating. I love V8 and it has a pretty good recipe in the book to make some. Normally you throw an apple or something in for sweetness. I did see this guys documentary on Netflix recently..Joe Cross Juice-Cleanse Recipes | The Dr. Oz Show.. I think his recipes are more realistic.

He could of achieved those results by just eating better but he went the juicing route. Whatever gets people healthier. I do like the idea of drinking a fuck ton of veggies then trying to always eat them but I don't think eating veggies should ever fully eliminated.. For me the point of these things are to absorb more veggies not more fruit.. Unless you're a guy like Joe Cross who is so overweight anything that keeps you constantly losing and getting healthier should be encouraged.
 

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My usual recommendations would be to first make sure you're mixing up your workouts. I always enjoyed every couple of months to completely switch up some of my lifts. I always questioned if it actually did anything (muscle memory and all that), but I figured it was worth a shot and since I always saw results I just kept at it.

Additionally, blaming things on the holidays is no good. I splurge a little, but too many people go "whelp it's the holidays [eats 30 extra cookies]." My wife is that way anyways. It might be different because you have kids, but even if I am eating bad food, I still try to load up on meat and vegetables at holiday meals and eat less of the sweets.

I've always had trouble with cheat days, I can't give advice. It was far too delicious and convenient to go to Burger King than to eat chicken breasts.

A resolution is a good idea. Are you tracking food with an app like Myfitnesspal or anything? That always kept me pretty honest.
I don't feel like blaming the holidays is no good. I mean, it is the holidays, you have your traditions and big meals and sweets you sometimes only get once a year if that. But then it ends. Like now, it is over, so there is no excuse to eat sweets all the time or huge meals or tons and tons of carbs, whatever it is. My point of view on that is that I love to cook and love traditional things around these holidays, so I should enjoy myself and have them, but should also keep in mind that holidays end and that is an exception to the rule, not a lifestyle.

I don't track food on anything. Maybe that is something I should start. I had a notebook and was writing down everything I ate and calculating the calories by hand, that lasted all of 2-3 days before I quit.
 

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I don't feel like blaming the holidays is no good. I mean, it is the holidays, you have your traditions and big meals and sweets you sometimes only get once a year if that. But then it ends. Like now, it is over, so there is no excuse to eat sweets all the time or huge meals or tons and tons of carbs, whatever it is. My point of view on that is that I love to cook and love traditional things around these holidays, so I should enjoy myself and have them, but should also keep in mind that holidays end and that is an exception to the rule, not a lifestyle.

I don't track food on anything. Maybe that is something I should start. I had a notebook and was writing down everything I ate and calculating the calories by hand, that lasted all of 2-3 days before I quit.
I thought it was all bullshit with the food tracking until I did it. MyFitnessPal is really good as long as you aren't trying to break it like certain people in this thread. If you're honest with the size of the food you eat (you might want a food scale), you'll be extremely surprised with how much food you've been eating. I used to love peanut butter m&m's until I realized I was downing about 1000 calories worth every night.

My wife took it the hardest. She pounded sweets like no one's business and now she's doing really well with it.
 

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I don't feel like blaming the holidays is no good. I mean, it is the holidays, you have your traditions and big meals and sweets you sometimes only get once a year if that. But then it ends. Like now, it is over, so there is no excuse to eat sweets all the time or huge meals or tons and tons of carbs, whatever it is. My point of view on that is that I love to cook and love traditional things around these holidays, so I should enjoy myself and have them, but should also keep in mind that holidays end and that is an exception to the rule, not a lifestyle.

I don't track food on anything. Maybe that is something I should start. I had a notebook and was writing down everything I ate and calculating the calories by hand, that lasted all of 2-3 days before I quit.
Moderation bro. And making sure youre consistently active/exercising.
 

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Yeah I have a food scale. And I think I am pretty realistic about the portions I eat. I have probably cut my portions in half from what I was eating a year ago. And I have cut out snacking in between meals for the most part. My big focus nutritionally now is adding in variety and different vegetables.

I think I'll check out the fitness pal app and see. I just have a feeling that it will be one of those things I end up blowing off so I have avoided tracking food to that level up until now.
 

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Anyone doing the resolution thing?
People who make resolutions have pretty much already failed. Honestly, if it takes waiting for a certain day to start doing something, you don't have the motivation in the first place.

I notice this all the time during the year too. "Oh, I'm going to start doing X on Monday," said on a Wednesday. Why are you waiting 4 extra days? Why not start now?

It's the reason why gym regulars make fun of resolutioners (and also hate them). We already know you're going to quit. If it took some arbitrary date to get you into the gym, you'll be gone the second it becomes inconvenient or a little hard.

That said, the new yearisa good time to reevaluate your previous goals and set new ones for something you've already been doing. And this all isn't to say there are some people who do make a change through a resolution. But I'd say at least 95% fail.

My usual recommendations would be to first make sure you're mixing up your workouts. I always enjoyed every couple of months to completely switch up some of my lifts. I always questioned if it actually did anything (muscle memory and all that), but I figured it was worth a shot and since I always saw results I just kept at it.
I can't tell if this is what you're saying, but I wanted to give you shit about it either way. It sounds like you're talking about muscle confusion, which is one of the biggest crocks of shit there is. If you're talking about switching things up so you don't get bored, that's ok I suppose. I read this a few weeks ago:

"I drive home as soon as I get to the gym and then right back to the gym to confuse the shit out of my muscles."
 

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It's the reason why gym regulars make fun of resolutioners (and also hate them). We already know you're going to quit. If it took some arbitrary date to get you into the gym, you'll be gone the second it becomes inconvenient or a little hard.
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Yes I was talking about muscle confusion and just saying I did it and saw results. No hardcore evidence with calipers (calibrated or not). Purely anecdotal.
 

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People who make resolutions have pretty much already failed. Honestly, if it takes waiting for a certain day to start doing something, you don't have the motivation in the first place.

I notice this all the time during the year too. "Oh, I'm going to start doing X on Monday," said on a Wednesday. Why are you waiting 4 extra days? Why not start now?

It's the reason why gym regulars make fun of resolutioners (and also hate them). We already know you're going to quit. If it took some arbitrary date to get you into the gym, you'll be gone the second it becomes inconvenient or a little hard.

That said, the new yearisa good time to reevaluate your previous goals and set new ones for something you've already been doing. And this all isn't to say there are some people who do make a change through a resolution. But I'd say at least 95% fail.



I can't tell if this is what you're saying, but I wanted to give you shit about it either way. It sounds like you're talking about muscle confusion, which is one of the biggest crocks of shit there is. If you're talking about switching things up so you don't get bored, that's ok I suppose. I read this a few weeks ago:

"I drive home as soon as I get to the gym and then right back to the gym to confuse the shit out of my muscles."
Yup, first of the year is the absolute WORST time of the year at the gym... ususally lasts about 6 weeks and things go back to business as usual. Makes me so glad I built a home gym....