Weight Loss Thread

McQueen_sl said:

When I started trying to put on some muscle, I did some research and started using protein powder. Around the middle of '12, I started experimenting with some other stuff (green tea, creatine, cla's, nos, different proteins). Most of it was junk, but I did feel like the creatine and nos added enough to warrant the expense.

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I am going to pick on you a little because you brought up a pet peeve of mine, but it isn't personal.

You don't take protein powder, you eat it. It isn't anything more than (processed) food. The whey powder you buy is just the whey protein leftover from making milk into cheese (which is made from the casein part of the milk). If you've ever made your own cottage cheese (it is easy, cheap, and delicious btw) you could save the "milk water" that usually goes down the drain and dry out for homemade protein powder.

You take drugs, but you eat food. Protein powder is food. This bugs me because it is another part of the bullshit supplement industry's marketing practices whereby using the word "take" implies that it is potent like a drug, rather than just something normal like milk or cheese. This mystique and non-accidental association with something you would "take" (e.g. Steroids or Growth Hormone) just exists to bilk people for money pointlessly.

There is absolutely no substitute for good food and good sleep. That is like 99% of whatever physical goal you have. Supplements (not drugs) are so far down the list of things that actually matter that the industry has to lie or mislead like crazy to actually turn a profit.

Now, that isn't to say protein powder is a waste. It is food, albeit processed food. Just try to stick to the cheap bulk whey with minimal additives if you are going to purchase it. Please don't overpay or give the unethical (pretty much all of them) supplement companies your money. Or just buy milk to drink/make your own.

I "eat protein powder" sounds so completely retarded. There's also a lot of supplements that are just concentrated parts of your daily diet, like creatine and vitamins. Someone saying they eat vitamins would sound equally retarded

So if I mix my powder up in water and drink it, I am eating it. Who knew that all those years I was actually eating chocolate milk.

It definitely counts as eating for my protein cheesecakes and pancakes.

He meant to say ingest. You ingest it! Supplements are suppositories and shots, so you don't ingest those, you take them. Take em hard.

He's right though. I love how blinded people are by the supplement industry.

One of my better friends is normally a pretty bright guy but when it comes to working out and supplements he's a fucking retard. He's overweight and has no need for protein outside of what he eats but when he actually does go to the gym he "runs" on the elliptical for about 20 minutes and then showers and gets a protein shake. Meanwhile in the morning he'll order an egg white omelette. I just want to slap him. Take out the most nutritious part of an egg which happens to be loaded with protein and then go briskly walk on an elliptical and decide you need to get some protein for that sick workout you just had.

Khane_sl said:

He meant to say ingest. You ingest it! Supplements are suppositories and shots, so you don't ingest those, you take them. Take em hard.

He's right though. I love how blinded people are by the supplement industry.

One of my better friends is normally a pretty bright guy but when it comes to working out and supplements he's a fucking retard. He's overweight and has no need for protein outside of what he eats but when he actually does go to the gym he "runs" on the elliptical for about 20 minutes and then showers and gets a protein shake. Meanwhile in the morning he'll order an egg white omelette. I just want to slap him. Take out the most nutritious part of an egg which happens to be loaded with protein and then go briskly walk on an elliptical and decide you need to get some protein for that sick workout you just had.

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Have you ever told him all of this? It sounds like he's doing what the vast majority of people do when they want to "work out" and "get in shape". i.e. they have no clue how to properly do it and therefore never see results.

I am brutal to him about it. Absolutely Brutal. He just laughs it off. He really doesn't believe me.

He just grew up that way. He drinks a 20 oz can of Monster every morning. Always gets his protein shake after a workout, and sometimes even takes some pre-workout fruit bullshit as well. He's a fiend for throwing money away and he doesn't care. After being told your whole life eggs are bad for you I can understand why he might do the egg white omelette but he's retarded when it comes to this type of shit. Literally, if the only contact you ever had with him involved health and fitness conversation you would think he was actually retarded.

My brother is the same way, believes everything he is doing is right and everyone else is wrong no matter the evidence you show him. He has tiny baby legs because he refuses to workout legs too. Fucking shithead.

Denaut_sl said:

bunch of stuff

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I said use, as in conjunction with, not "take." It's also not whey, because I've had asthma all my life and dairy makes me super congested. I would just drink whole milk if I could, but that creates problems that doctors like to fix with prednisone (sucks). The egg protein that I have now has eight ingredients, and it is cheap.

Ok, someone explain this to me:

Google has pork loin listed as 205 calories per 3oz serving (85g)

Self Nutrition Data has it listed as 122 calories per 3oz serving
Nutrition Facts and Analysis for Pork, fresh, loin, tenderloin, separable lean only, cooked, roasted [Pork, Pork tenderloin, URMIS #3358]

This marinated pork loin from High Plains Farms is listed as 150cal per 4oz serving:
High Plains Farms Portobello Mushroom & Cracked Black Pepper Pork Loin

What the hell can I trust? The problem for me is that skinless roasted chicken breast is listed as 138cal per 3 oz serving. How can chicken breast be more calories than pork loin?

I'd always go with the highest number in any calculation because then you can just be overshooting your calories.

I'm down to 166 now after not drinking, it's fucking stalled out big time though. I think my bodys natural point is in the 165-170 range though so I'm just gonna live with it.

Who was it that got deathly ill and could recommend it as weight loss a little bit ago? I am here to second that. I can start eating solid food again tomorrow, but over the last week I lost 10 lbs. Woo.

Diarrhea does wonders for the figure.

2 week check-in

Weight: 175.5 up .5
Body Fat %: 21.6% down .2

Hekotat_sl said:

2 week check-in

Weight: 175.5 up .5
Body Fat %: 21.6% down .2

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Good job. I'd say it's a win any time your weight goes up but your body fat goes down. I don't remember if you mentioned it before: how tall are you?

Make sure you keep downing the coconut oil to continue shaving off that body fat!

You can't be too careful, better put some garlic on that coconut oil.

I have been eating better (salads with grilled chicken, no snacks at night) and my weight went up like 6 pounds in one week. Not really sure what happened, but guess I'll continue this way and see what happens. Not really counting calories or anything, just trying to make smarter choices. I'm definitely feeling better, so that's what matters. Going to try to start hitting the gym this week, I keep putting it off.

Strange side effect, after switching my diet I've been doing nothing but extremely hard and big dumps, I like to call them "ass splitters". Probably need more fiber, not sure.

You may as well get whatever you want if you're going to load that salad up with bacon, cheese, and ranch dressing.

Noodleface_sl said:

You can't be too careful, better put some garlic on that coconut oil.

I have been eating better (salads with grilled chicken, no snacks at night) and my weight went up like 6 pounds in one week. Not really sure what happened, but guess I'll continue this way and see what happens. Not really counting calories or anything, just trying to make smarter choices. I'm definitely feeling better, so that's what matters. Going to try to start hitting the gym this week, I keep putting it off.

Strange side effect, after switching my diet I've been doing nothing but extremely hard and big dumps, I like to call them "ass splitters". Probably need more fiber, not sure.

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This actually doesn't make much sense if you really are eating a lot of salad. If you eat alot of lettuce (especially iceberg or romaine) you're going to have very quick loose shits. You'll even see undigested lettuce in there. You eating chicken salad or actual salad?

It's basically chicken, baby spinach, cucumbers, and a few croutons in a bowl. I use a light italian dressing and very little of it as I don't really like dressing.