Weight Loss Thread
- Thread starter Sean_sl
- Start date
-
Guest, it's time once again for the massively important and exciting FoH Asshat Tournament!
Go here and give us your nominations!Who's been the biggest Asshat in the last year? Give us your worst ones!
Yeah. When I reach 190, I'm not going to care, because it'll be my normal weight and I'll stop.
Jim Russel
Lord Nagafen Raider
- 509
- 50
Fifey
Trakanon Raider
- 2,898
- 962
I've had no experience with a HRM but I know a good chunk of cyclists use them to monitor training and a lot of people are going to low intensity base training like you mentioned.
Heart rate monitor training for cyclists - BikeRadar
chaos
Buzzfeed Editor
- 17,324
- 4,839
Meh, I like working out. It is relaxing and gives me a feeling of accomplishment when I do something.So, back down to 226. Still dropping like a stone.
And no fancy diets or exercises needed. Suck it, all of you.
I end up spending about 1.5 hours in the gym when I go. But that includes getting my kids in and settled in the child care, putting my shit up, weights, cardio, cooldown, and picking my kids up. I occasionally have to go change a dirty diaper mid-workout also because my kids are fucking HILARIOUS. I switch between legs/core and arms/chest/back days. I am sure I could split it up more and I probably will as time goes on, but this works for me right now.
Noodleface
A Mod Real Quick
- 38,359
- 16,249
Is fasted cardio a new fad? I only ask because I've seen 6000 people talking about it on facebook. That's usually a sign that it's really gay.
- 17,879
- 8,779
Don't know if it's a fad, it's definitely controversial and not a training method suitable for everyone. Naturally skinny people or highly stressed people can find it too demanding on their system, exercising fasted can raise cortisol levels too high and eat away at muscle gains. That's why using BCAAs beforehand is highly advisable, I guess it depends on how quickly one wants to shed body fat.
Convo
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
- 8,775
- 640
I feel like the bcaa part was just created by industry. People have been doing fasted cardio for years on programs like bfl and have great results. Plus they still have strength gains. I haven't really dug into it tho. Just using what I know from other successful programs and it's a non issue.
Daelos
Guarding the guardians
- 219
- 58
Recipe for getting in shape with weights for a beginner is so simple and proven.
1) Squats, deadlifts, bench- and OHP-presses with a barbell
2) Train 3 times each week, 50-70 minutes. Always squats, most days bench and OHP, some days deadlifts
3) Add on weights regularly, keep it in the 5x rep range
4) Eat, sleep
Do that for 12-18 weeks, and then you can begin consider doing body splits, vanity curls and other rep ranges.
Always use free weights, preferably the barbell. Never machines.
1) Squats, deadlifts, bench- and OHP-presses with a barbell
2) Train 3 times each week, 50-70 minutes. Always squats, most days bench and OHP, some days deadlifts
3) Add on weights regularly, keep it in the 5x rep range
4) Eat, sleep
Do that for 12-18 weeks, and then you can begin consider doing body splits, vanity curls and other rep ranges.
Always use free weights, preferably the barbell. Never machines.
Convo
Ahn'Qiraj Raider
- 8,775
- 640
Doesn't mean he's right. Could just be part of the machine. I'd really have to read up on it. Admittedly I don't know all the actual science. Just when you look at a program like body for life that is setup to workout on an empty stomach and you see all the gains people make, you question people saying you need shit like bcaa
- 16,947
- 7,965
McCheese
SW: Sean, CW: Crone, GW: Wizardhawk
- 6,922
- 4,324
Stuff like BCAAs might be useful for optimizing your results, but I honestly think for normal people (i.e., everyone other than athletes and bodybuilders) the difference between using something like BCAAs and not using them is going to be pretty damn negligible even if it technically is providing a benefit.
I just assume that anyone advising the use of supplements for normal people is either a) selling them directly or b) involved somehow in the supplement industry.
I just assume that anyone advising the use of supplements for normal people is either a) selling them directly or b) involved somehow in the supplement industry.
McCheese
SW: Sean, CW: Crone, GW: Wizardhawk
- 6,922
- 4,324
You probably won't like my response since it's purely anecdotal and not supported by research studies, but free weights (especially barbell) seem to give the best workout. I know I feel it more when I do overhead press with a barbell as opposed to dumbbells, and much, much more than when I do the overhead press machine. All free weights are better than machines because they're more natural movements and you're not stuck in a single, repetitive track that you can't deviate from during the motion. Plus, using free weights helps your balance and other parts of your body. For example, doing a barbell overhead press is going to help your core muscles whereas doing a sitting overhead press machine you won't get that benefit.
- 16,947
- 7,965
So use a machine that will get those muscles, whatever "core" muscles are. I won't disagree that free weights are better, they probably are. But it's not worth the safety risk. None of you see the irony of weight lifting to get in shape or be healthier, but half of you have long term injuries from the same actions?
chaos
Buzzfeed Editor
- 17,324
- 4,839
I assume that free weights are better because it requires more muscle involvement. For instance, doing barbell squats you have to balance yourself and use a whole host of core muscles that you probably don't when doing leg press/squat machine. That said, I still use the machine mostly. My gym only has one squat rack and I am not confident enough to do something like bench press with free weights and would rather have the machine even if I get a less min/maxed workout. The trainers at my gym still use machines along with free weights so I am pretty sure that they are fine, and certainly better than not lifting at all.
McCheese
SW: Sean, CW: Crone, GW: Wizardhawk
- 6,922
- 4,324
You're not going to injure yourself by lifting moderate dumbbells or doing bench press with moderate weight. The people who get injured are the ones who are pushing their strength limits by squatting several hundred pounds and whatnot.
I understand not wanting to do things that can mess up your back, such as deadlifts and squats, but avoiding free weights entirely because you think you're going to get injured is just ridiculous.
iannis
Musty Nester
- 31,351
- 17,657
I have no doubt it's for safety. Because there are going to be people that lose muscle doing it. That's just gonna happen. And then you'll have the faddy backlash that "if you don't eat before you work out YOU MIGHT DIE".
You can avoid all that bullshit by just reminding people to not be retarded in the first place.
But I mean we never would have lived long enough to make it out of the trees if we were THAT fragile. But you get a few thousand or a few hundred thousand people doing this -- it is acertaintythat some of them will experience adverse effects. And it won't always be the same ones.
- 17,879
- 8,779
I'm specifically talking about using BCAA's in the context of fasted exercise, the theory is this is necessary to avoid muscles being broken down to fuel said activity.
McCheese
SW: Sean, CW: Crone, GW: Wizardhawk
- 6,922
- 4,324
I know, and I still think the benefits are negligible for the vast majority of people. I've been doing fasted workouts for 2 years now; I wake up, drink a cup of black coffee, and hit the gym 5 days a week. In that time I've made huge gains in fat loss and muscle growth and strength. Is it possible my benefits might have been a bit better if I had been using BCAAs all this time? Sure, maybe, but I doubt it would be so dramatic that it would be noticeable.