Weight Loss Thread

Convo · Jul 22, 2014

Himeo_sl said:
I listened to my body, my body told me to eat.

Stomach: Yo, Himeo BRO, I'm fucking starving here. EAT SOMETHING
Himeo: Damn, okay. Not really sure what to get.
Cravings: That pizza looks pretty fucking good right now.
Himeo: Stomach, you good with pizza bro?
Stomach: I could fuck with some pizza. GIVE IT TO ME.

I got fat. So I listened to "the experts" and took their calorie counting method of weight loss.

Stomach: Yo, Himeo BRO, I'm fucking starving here. EAT SOMETHING
Himeo: I gave you 2,000 calories bro. I can't eat anything else today.
Stomach: I don't give a fuck. EAT SOMETHING.
Himeo: No.
Stomach: EAT SOMETHING.
Himeo: NO
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING.
Craving: Oh lawd, is that a donut shop?
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING.
Himeo: Oh fuck.
Craving: Just have a donut, what's the problem?
Himeo: I, dude I ate 2K calories today. I can't.
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING
Craving: Stomach's hurting bro, stop being a faggot and have a donut.
Himeo: What about the calories?
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING
STOMACH: EAT SOMETHING
Himeo: Christ. Okay fine.

I couldn't stick to it.

Then I heard that sugar was the problem and stopped eating sugar.

Craving: Himeo bro, that donut shop looks pretty fucking good right now.
Himeo: Hell yea it does. Hey Stomach, you have room for some donuts?
Stomach: Are you out of your goddamn mind? I don't have any room for that shit. I'm full.
Craving: But you haven't eaten anything all day.
Himeo: Yea, wtf Stomach. I haven't eaten anything all day.
Stomach: No room man, shit sucks.
Himeo: Okay, that's cool I guess.
Craving: That pizza looks pretty tempting.
Himeo: Shit yea it does. Got some room for pizza stomach?
Stomach: Na bro, no room.
Himeo: Oh well.

I lost a lot of weight.

Pointing this out makes me a zealot.

That sounds like the typical trial and error people go thru in regards to weight loss. You were successful at that approach, so now sugar is the devil. I don't think large amounts of sugar is good either, but there are plenty of people who just count calories and live a 80/20 lifestyle and still lose plenty of weight. I ate so clean at one time that just looking at pizza made me sick. Your body does adjust once you get past those first hard weeks, so what you're eating starts to be preferred over the old junk food. The new food always tends to be on the healthier, more nutritional side.

Ambiturner · Jul 23, 2014

Nobody thinks eating a ton of sugar is good for weight loss, that's one of the biggest reasons his zealotry is mocked.

Ossoi · Jul 23, 2014

he also completely ignored my post about carbs being an important tool for muscle building.

If carbs are so bad then why do fitness supplement sites sell so many carb powders?http://www.myprotein.com/our-range/b...ohydrates.list

Fury · Jul 23, 2014

Convo_sl said:
...there are plenty of people who just count calories and live a 80/20 lifestyle and still lose plenty of weight. Your body does adjust once you get past those first hard weeks, so what you're eating starts to be preferred over the old junk food. The new food always tends to be on the healthier, more nutritional side.

80/20? Can you explain this please?

I'm also not sure what you mean by the body adjusting, can you explain more on that. After 8 months into my weight loss and calorie control, pretty much all I think about is food, how much it will cost me, and when I can next eat. I have not been a very happy guy for 8 months.

Itlan · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
80/20? Can you explain this please?

I'm also not sure what you mean by the body adjusting, can you explain more on that. After 8 months into my weight loss and calorie control, pretty much all I think about is food, how much it will cost me, and when I can next eat. I have not been a very happy guy for 8 months.

80% clean, 20% dirty.

And your body eventually stops craving shit like donuts, ice cream, etc. If you don't pump ridiculous amounts of sugar into your body, you won't crave that shit anymore like you used to.

As for carbs being evil, it's not that simple. Are they evil for obese people? Yes. For bodybuilders? Absolutely not. My body deals with carbs a lot better post-keto weight loss than it ever had before.

Ambiturner · Jul 23, 2014

As long as I don't smell the food, I'm good

Convo · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
80/20? Can you explain this please?

I'm also not sure what you mean by the body adjusting, can you explain more on that. After 8 months into my weight loss and calorie control, pretty much all I think about is food, how much it will cost me, and when I can next eat. I have not been a very happy guy for 8 months.

Itlan summed it up nicely. I think a big reason why weight watchers is so successful is they don't restrict anything from the diet. It's really just moderation, but for good health, 80/20 is a solid approach. Making better choices isn't that hard and you can still eat good stuff. You just need to exercise self control. I tend to lose all control when drinking so I keep drinking to 1-2 times a week. Preferable 1 lol.

Also, have you been consistently losing weight for 8 months?

McCheese · Jul 23, 2014

That shit about cravings eventually disappearing is complete bullshit. That might happen for some people, but I can understand what Fury's talking about with the "all I think about is food" bit.

Noodleface · Jul 23, 2014

Himeo doesn't sound like an AA member, he sounds like one of those born again Christians.

Warmuth · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
80/20? Can you explain this please?

I'm also not sure what you mean by the body adjusting, can you explain more on that. After 8 months into my weight loss and calorie control, pretty much all I think about is food, how much it will cost me, and when I can next eat. I have not been a very happy guy for 8 months.

It's harder for some people than it is for others, unfortunately there's just no way around it. Takes time to undo years of your system expecting to get fed the best tasting food ever created, and a lot of it.

ubiquitrips · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
80/20? Can you explain this please?

I'm also not sure what you mean by the body adjusting, can you explain more on that. After 8 months into my weight loss and calorie control, pretty much all I think about is food, how much it will cost me, and when I can next eat. I have not been a very happy guy for 8 months.

This is specifically why Keto worked so well for me. Sure you have to give up sweets, pasta, and bread (among other things), but eating really fatty food feels good. Once you drop sugar for a while, if the cravings don't go away, they are usually deadened. Even if you do get a craving for sugar there are still good ways to address it (berries or pumpkin for me). i end up downing packages of raspberries and blackberries almost every week.

Itlan · Jul 23, 2014

McCheese_sl said:
That shit about cravings eventually disappearing is complete bullshit. That might happen for some people, but I can understand what Fury's talking about with the "all I think about is food" bit.

All I think about is food as well. Can't say I ever crave a donut, though.

McCheese · Jul 23, 2014

A few weeks ago I was travelling, and I had just eaten a large meal at Red Robin (big burger, a few refills of their unlimited fries, an onion rings appetizer). My mouth literally started watering as we waited for the check and started talking about the next morning's continental breakfast at the hotel. I had just finished an enormous meal, and I was already prepared to start downing sugary sweets like donuts and cinnamon buns.

I ended up eating 5 cinnamon buns (about the size of vending machine honey buns), 3 or 4 donuts, 2 plates of scrambled eggs, and 4 banana nut muffins (with 2 pats of butter, each) at breakfast.

Convo · Jul 23, 2014

Cravings are different for everyone...I try to find a healthier alternative to my cravings or just eat it in moderation. I know someone who replaced thier sweet tooth with strictly fruit. It really depends on the person. I've always thought if you have goals, it's better to give the bad food up till you hit those goals then go moderation and maintain.

Gravel · Jul 23, 2014

McCheese_sl said:
That shit about cravings eventually disappearing is complete bullshit. That might happen for some people, but I can understand what Fury's talking about with the "all I think about is food" bit.

I found that to be the case as well. I still craved shit like ice cream and shit all the time.

I'm back on a bulk now and eating all of it again though, so crisis averted.

Convo · Jul 23, 2014

Elurin_sl said:
I found that to be the case as well. I still craved shit like ice cream and shit all the time.

I'm back on a bulk now and eating all of it again though, so crisis averted.

Not for me. When I was really into eating clean. I grew up on pizza and love it. Probably my favorite food and the site of it made me sick. I was just so in the zone. I'm back to eating pizza again, but I went a good 8 months without it.

Deathwing · Jul 23, 2014

McCheese_sl said:
A few weeks ago I was travelling, and I had just eaten a large meal at Red Robin (big burger, a few refills of their unlimited fries, an onion rings appetizer). My mouth literally started watering as we waited for the check and started talking about the next morning's continental breakfast at the hotel. I had just finished an enormous meal, and I was already prepared to start downing sugary sweets like donuts and cinnamon buns.

I ended up eating 5 cinnamon buns (about the size of vending machine honey buns), 3 or 4 donuts, 2 plates of scrambled eggs, and 4 banana nut muffins (with 2 pats of butter, each) at breakfast.

How are you not dead? Or at the very least, morbidly obese?

Fury · Jul 23, 2014

Convo_sl said:
Also, have you been consistently losing weight for 8 months?

Yeah, set calorie intake for 2lbs a week (Myfitnesspal), and I've been losing at a pretty regular pace. I'm 6'1" and started out at 246lbs on 11/11, and weighed in at 199.7lbs last Friday 7/18. So 46lbs in 8 months. It's just not falling from my belly, which is quite frustrating. I'm not looking for the famed 6 pack abs, but some loss that would get me into smaller jeans would be cool. I figure I've got another 20 - 25lbs to go.

Convo · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
Yeah, set calorie intake for 2lbs a week (Myfitnesspal), and I've been losing at a pretty regular pace. I'm 6'1" and started out at 246lbs on 11/11, and weighed in at 199.7lbs last Friday 7/18. So 46lbs in 8 months. It's just not falling from my belly, which is quite frustrating. I'm not looking for the famed 6 pack abs, but some loss that would get me into smaller jeans would be cool. I figure I've got another 20 - 25lbs to go.

sounds like you're getting there. Most people gain weight in the belly first so tend to lose it there last. The slow rate you're losing at is actually a good thing, assuming you're strength training. It sucks now, but when you hit your target weight, you'll have a lot less loose skin.

Curious.. what are your cravings? I tend to want shit like pizza or sweets. To get around sweets, I drink a chocolate ice cream protein shake or eat cocoa/peanut PB2 on a rice cake. I fucking love PB2. I'll throw a banana on top as well.

Ambiturner · Jul 23, 2014

Fury_sl said:
Yeah, set calorie intake for 2lbs a week (Myfitnesspal), and I've been losing at a pretty regular pace. I'm 6'1" and started out at 246lbs on 11/11, and weighed in at 199.7lbs last Friday 7/18. So 46lbs in 8 months. It's just not falling from my belly, which is quite frustrating. I'm not looking for the famed 6 pack abs, but some loss that would get me into smaller jeans would be cool. I figure I've got another 20 - 25lbs to go.

That's pretty common in guys. Lower abdomen and love handles are the last place I lose fat

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