Weight Loss Thread
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Did you even read my post again, as I asked you to?
We agree that overweight people shouldn't be allowed near carbs.
You keep coming here and banging the carbs are evil, sugar is poison drum.
I am trying to point out that once someone has lost enough weight, there is no reason to restrict carbs.
As for sugar is poison - the fact that fitness sites sell a complete range of high/low GI carbs, completely invalidates that stance.
Err having the goal of losing 50lbs is no different to wanting to get from 25% body fat to 12% - the optimal way to do that is going to be lifting weights and watching what you eat - high protein, low carbs until leaner. Even if it's getting from 25% to 15% or from 25% to 10%. The methodology is the same
Ambiturner
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I don't think you even know what you're saying at this pointFive minutes on google and it's obvious you're wrong.
USDA
Department of Health and Human Services
Center for Disease Control
I could keep going. None of these trusted sources agree with you.
USDA guidelines.
Fruit: High Sugar and Low Fiber
Grains: High Sugar and Low Fiber
Milk: Sugar Water with Fat and Protein
Vegetables: Low Sugar and high fiber
Meat: The good stuff. Fat and Protein.
That's the USDA dietary guidelines. Let's look at some others. Department of "Health" and Human Services
Jesus, just look at the fucking cover! What do they show off as healthy food? Fruit and Bread!
FRUIT
and
BREAD
That's sugar and fiber.
Center for Disease Control
According to the Dietary Guidelines for Americans 2010, a healthy eating plan:
?Emphasizes fruits, vegetables, whole grains, and fat-free or low-fat milk and milk products(EAT SUGAR WITH FIBER)
?Includes lean meats, poultry, fish, beans, eggs, and nuts
?Is low in saturated fats, trans fats, cholesterol, salt (sodium), and added sugars(FAT IS BAD cut back on extra sugar)
?Stays within your daily calorie needs
Itlan
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Lol I don't mean I have man tits, just it seems the last bits of fat to be there, as there's clear separation of muscles at the shoulders, arms, my back, legs, etc. When I flex you can see striations in my chest but naturally there's still a little jiggle jiggle at the bottom of the pec. Since changing to a more hypertrophy styled workout its become better, though.
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Today is... the last day of this years' diet! 10 kgs down in 3 months (96,5->86,5 (at 194cm height)), and I'm looking forward to hitting the gym again next week after upping calorie and carb intake starting tomorrow.
I've always been thin and scrawny, but I'm aesthetically pretty much in the best shape I've ever been at the moment. Looking forward to filling out some now.
PR's before the diet (5RMs); squat @ 105kg, dl @ 125kg, bench @ 77,5kg. I know these are fairly low, so there's plenty of room for improvement (especially now, as I haven't been to the gym for 4-5 weeks)
First goal: 350kg in combined 5RM. Hoping to get there by late November.
I've always been thin and scrawny, but I'm aesthetically pretty much in the best shape I've ever been at the moment. Looking forward to filling out some now.
PR's before the diet (5RMs); squat @ 105kg, dl @ 125kg, bench @ 77,5kg. I know these are fairly low, so there's plenty of room for improvement (especially now, as I haven't been to the gym for 4-5 weeks)
First goal: 350kg in combined 5RM. Hoping to get there by late November.
Daelos
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Oops, sorry. Height-wise, I'm guessing I'm about 67 little pebbles and 3 wooden branches tall, and weight-wise I've dropped approximately the weight of a fat cat, going from a decent sized tree root to the equivalent of about 90 ostrich eggs.
Noodleface
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You can't just tell people to boycott Gold's Gym without giving a single reason.
That's almost as much of a cocktease as when the news goes "What are you eating everyday that could KILL YOU IN A MATTER OF SECONDS! Find out at 10:00"
I hate watching UFC in England and they use the stone shit, makes no fucking sense.
That's almost as much of a cocktease as when the news goes "What are you eating everyday that could KILL YOU IN A MATTER OF SECONDS! Find out at 10:00"
I hate watching UFC in England and they use the stone shit, makes no fucking sense.
Himeo
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Reversing insulin resistance is a higher priority for those with 50+ lbs to lose. You keep saying it's the same priority at all weight levels when it's not. Giving 200g of carbs to someone with insulin resistance because DEM GAINZ BRO is diet suicide. Diet first, GAINZ second until you get to a healthy body weight.
Do you understand why this is alogical fallacy, or do I have to walk you through it?
Himeo
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Qhue
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I had a massive internal infection and as a result dropped 40 lbs in a little over two weeks and have kept it off, so yeah there are all sorts of ways to lose weight but that does not equate to health.
(Though I will say during the post surgery recovery period my body fat % has steadily decreased so there are still things going on even if the overall mass is constant)
(Though I will say during the post surgery recovery period my body fat % has steadily decreased so there are still things going on even if the overall mass is constant)
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I don't think Himeo can read.
I have genuinely lost count of how many times I've quoted myself and he still doesn't seem to realise that we both agree that fatties shouldn't go near carbs.
I said 200g of sweet potato, not 200g of carbs. 200g of sweet potato has 40g carbs.
Honestly, just stop posting. I'm probably one of the posters who was most inclined to partially agree with your stance. I dropped a lot of body fat last year via low carb and then carb cycling, and even now at roughly 10% body fat my carb intake is still low-medium compared to most people, even on training days. Plus I never eat bread or pasta. But having to keep quoting myself because you can't take anything in, is getting frustrating
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Why are you bashing on wanting to add muscle?
Do you not realise that people with no/little weightlifting experience can burn fat and gain muscle at the same time? Do you really think just burning fat is preferential to burning fat whilst gaining muscle?
Ambiturner
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My point of view isn't too far from yours which is why your crusade is so bizarre.
Cutting carbs is one of the best ways to lose fat. As far as I know nobody in this thread has disputed that. There are people who can diet while still eating carbs, though not as quickly or efficiently and they're ok with that. This is pretty common knowledge and there's no big conspiracy to hide the truth. Also when you're done losing weight there's nothing wrong with a sensible amount of carbs and your body will run much better than being low carb 24/7
Himeo
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I definitely misread that. Carry on, no disagreement if it's only 40g of carbs.
When I see all this talk about "calories in, calories out" it TRIGGERS me.
But, seriously, implying low carb dieting is common knowledge is flat wrong. When people ask me how I lost all the weight and I tell them, I get shit like "Won't all that fat clog your arteries and kill you?" or "Stop, that's dangerous!" or "You're lying. Just tell me the truth."
Common knowledge is locked in shit science from the 1950's.