Weight Loss Thread

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chaos_sl said:
I don't want to be discouraging or anything because I'm really happy for you that you're taking initiative and doing something. But real talk, you didn't get where you are overnight, you got there from poor lifestyle choices. No judgement, I have done the same thing. But I think you're fooling yourself if you think a few months of discipline outweighs years, decades even, of poor choices. It's better to be aware of the failure rate and why that happens. The data says that your way has a higher failrue rate, and that doesn't mean you will fail, and I 100% understand the "fuck this shit, no more" attitude. I have it myself in a way.

Don't look at it as saving you time. If you were to lose this weight, get surgery, and then gain it back within 5 years, did you save any time? How demoralizing would that be? These are things worth pondering. Ultimately yeah, you get the one life, and imo we should be looking at this more as "how do I live the rest of my life to where this never happens again" rather than "how do I get from X to Y the quickest."
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Hahaha. I get it, I really do. I could write 4000 words explaining to you why I am beyond this, but I'll refrain. Let's just say I've seen rock bottom, I know what actual hopelessness is, and I got through it. Maintaining a healthy calorie intake for the rest of my life would rank about 143rd on the list of difficult shit I've had to do in the last three years. The changes I had to make internally to stop being the person who hovered around 500 lbs have already happened. This last however many pounds is the only thing connecting me to that person and the psychological bullshit that held that person back. Professionally and personally it was much easier to make drastic change right away, which I have done. This can't work on that constricted timeline unfortunately. Mentally the weight is already gone, it's just a matter of time lapsing in the interim before reality catches up to that fact.

But yes, I will take the diet suggestions to heart. There is always room for improvement. I happen to think those Voila meals from birdseye are pretty healthy and they are super convenient(they are just frozen veggies and meat for the most part), but I honestly think Keto may speed things up so I may go 100% and see how that goes.
 
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Voila aren't horrible for frozen food (depending on type and your portion control; if you are downing the whole thing in one sitting like I like to do then they are terrible for you) but the carbs are too high and the salt is insanely high. I always standby, fuck all diets, just eat baked chicken with no sauce for every meal. It sucks but you really can't eat cleaner.

No matter what method you decide, good luck Gilg, kickass and achieve your goals.
 
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Gilgamel_sl said:
Hahaha. I get it, I really do. I could write 4000 words explaining to you why I am beyond this, but I'll refrain. Let's just say I've seen rock bottom, I know what actual hopelessness is, and I got through it. Maintaining a healthy calorie intake for the rest of my life would rank about 143rd on the list of difficult shit I've had to do in the last three years. The changes I had to make internally to stop being the person who hovered around 500 lbs have already happened. This last however many pounds is the only thing connecting me to that person and the psychological bullshit that held that person back. Professionally and personally it was much easier to make drastic change right away, which I have done. This can't work on that constricted timeline unfortunately. Mentally the weight is already gone, it's just a matter of time lapsing in the interim before reality catches up to that fact.

But yes, I will take the diet suggestions to heart. There is always room for improvement. I happen to think those Voila meals from birdseye are pretty healthy and they are super convenient(they are just frozen veggies and meat for the most part), but I honestly think Keto may speed things up so I may go 100% and see how that goes.
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(Disclaimer to make Ossoi happy: This isn't advice, only stuff that I'm basing off my own experiences)

Good luck with it brother, feel free to IM me since I'm also on Keto if you want any ideas. Ideally, even though those meals might be healthier than fast food and very convenient, you need to be careful that a lot of those things simply substitute salt to make up for lack of inate flavor, and generally have less overall nutrients than you'd normally get. While someone on Keto generally needs a lot of salt, I don't think getting it that way is a good way to do it personally. There's really no easy way to say it but doing your own cooking on this diet is a very important part of keeping weight off, IMO. Otherwise, you're simply going to be used to the convenience of buying prepared food and then you'll gradually start going back to shit like frozen pizzas.

I'm a cook, so I've been doing some creative cooking trying to get things to taste good and still fall within a reasonable diet. I've always hated mushrooms, but I made some amazing crab stuffed portobellos the other day that were just delicious. Hollar if you want some recipes.
 
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Gilgamel_sl said:
Two reasons:

1) I haven't been under 200 since I was like 11 and I want to do it, just to do it.

2) I will probably have to have some excess skin removed in my stomach and I want to lean out entirely before doing so. I think 230 or so will be my final cruising weight the rest of my life. I was over 450 at my highest, still 150 lbs or so to go to hit 200. I want to do it in 8 months if possible.
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Losing all that weight in 8 months is a ridiculous expectation, and probably very unhealthy because it took you YEARS to gain that weight. If you actually reach your goal, it's not probably, but YOU WILL have excess skin that needs to be removed. You want to do it the natural way without surgery AND guarantee you won't get it back in the long run? Change your life style and do this over a few years. That's what I did. At my heaviest, I was at 38 inch waist. I'm now at 28-29 inch waist with no excess skin.
 
Khane

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I lost 100 lbs in 10 months (size 44 waist to size 32 waist) and had no excess skin. I was 22 years old though so I was still young and supple.

I always have to laugh when I hear people saying losing weight too fast is unhealthy. As if after all these years of being severely obese you're suddenly worried that losing the weight too fast is what's going to send you to an early grave.
 
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10lbs a month vs. 20lbs a month is a pretty significant difference. Same with 11 days and 21lbs. AlAf and Gilg are clearly big guys who have a lot to lose, but I think what people are mostly questioning is the number (150 in 8 months is a -BIG- difference from 100 in 10) and how one could conceivably lose that much safely in the given time frames. I don't think anyone is legit saying that losing weight fast is generally unhealthy, but there's definitely a difference between rates of weight loss and how healthy they theoretically can be. Both guys have said they were fat for 20 years or so, so most definitely in their 30s or older. Skin flaps are definitely an issue. Especially when one is targeting almost 20lbs a month and the other has lost 20lbs in 11 days. You lost a healthy chunk in a pretty decent timeframe, but doubling that in a smaller timeframe would have most likely lead to extra skin on you as well.

I'm legit curious how AlAF's next doctor visit is going to go, because I have literally never heard of anyone losing 20lbs in 11 days that wasn't doing some insane cut to get there. And in every similar case, it was 100% among the least healthy activities ever in any of those people's lives.
 
Khane

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20 lbs in 11 days is not out of the ordinary at all considering his starting weight. A lot of people in this thread have had similar results their first 2 weeks, especially on ketogenic diets.
 
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So I fucked up yesterday and forgot to say "unwich" at Jimmy Johns. Was too pussy to refuse and make them remake it , and didn't want to pay for another sandwich so I ate it. I forget exactly what their website says, but its like 60-80g carbs. Holy damn it fucked my guts up bad. Then this morning, my piss has the typical "smell" , you guys know, and I hop on the scale and I'm down 2 lbs.

So getting the shits pays off .... lol. I'm sure it'll come back today and tomorrow when things normalize. Cool thing was, when I ate it, I wasn't like omg I've missed this so much, this bread is so amazing. I was like meh? So that's good.
 
Khane

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Why didn't you just take all the meat and veggies out of the bun and eat it that way?
 
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Khane_sl said:
Why didn't you just take all the meat and veggies out of the bun and eat it that way?
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Thought about that, and in hindsight would have been the better choice. In my mind, at the time, I felt it would be too huge a mess, and probably more the reason, I felt I would lose most of the good condiments on the bread, and it would be a shit sandwich.
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Gilgamel

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Curious what you guys think about watermelon. I've enjoyed the shit out of it while losing the last 40 lbs or so. You can eat a lot with low calories and get that little bit of sweetness. Has carbs but whatever. I feel like it's a great option.
 
Caliane

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god awful. I was going to comment on that being mentioned the other day.
water and sugar. Unless you are eating a tiny bit. Sugar content on any satisfying amount of watermelon is very very high.
I love watermelon, but that was seriously one of the first things I cut out. had to throw out a quarter just yesterday.

if you want fruit. blueberries, cherries. antioxidant, vit c, etc at least.

edit:

Blueberries, raw Nutrition Facts & Calories

Stand corrected. more Vit a and C then I thought.
Watermelon, raw Nutrition Facts & Calories

The problem is the serving size. 1 cup of blueberries is alot of blueberries and likely more then enough.
1 cup of watermelon is like 1 mouthful. A wedge is likely 1.5-3 cups.
 
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If it fills you up, hey it is doing its job. It's like, 80 calories or so per cup, which is only like 30 calories more than a cup of veggies. I wouldn't subsist on it, but you can easily do worse when it comes to "fruits."

edit for Caliane:

Not sure what you're trying to show. A cup of blueberries are double the calories of a cup of watermelon (I question that 46 calories shit though) and double the carbs. Theoretically, you could eat double the amount of watermelon as you would blueberries and get the same nutritional value (way more vitamin C) and that's 2 cups in your belly vs. 1.

Edit for your edit:

Gorging on anything is going to be a bad idea. If you're consuming a cup of watermelon per mouthful, you might want to talk to Guinness about world record mouth sizes and what not. If you're eating half a watermelon in a sitting, you're doing -everything- wrong if a diet is your end goal. But if you eat a couple of cups full as a snack/dessert (according to Caliane's links, that would be 92 calories. I think this number is way low) it isn't even a blip on the overall radar.
 
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That's the sweet thing about having kids. I can take a couple bites, and give the rest to my kids to go eat out on the patio!
 
Caliane

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yeah, I said it was horrible. Then looked up nutrition, and changed my mind. however, I am still concerned on "serving size" for it. pretty sure I would consider 3-5 cups a "serving size" for watermelon. (at least 2 wedges)
Its like the "serving size" of ice cream being 1/2cup. Who the fuck is eating that little? what is even the point? that will just make you crave more. I would rather no icecream, then 1/2c of ice cream.


3 servings imho. maybe 4. not 16 1 cup servings.
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that said, all sorts of websites raving about watermelon as best for diets.
 
Gilgamel

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Down 3.6 lbs this week. Right at 39 for the last 10 weeks. If I can do this 4 more times I'm right where I want to be.

Gonna finish the watermelon in my fridge(usually they last about a week) and then go full keto and see what I can do.
 
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