Ark, your contention (along with the links you posted) seems to be that a person's general size, weight, and body composition are unrelated to hormones and entirely dependent on Calories in/Calories out. This is totally, patently, and demonstrably false.
To continue along this line of reasoning is to ignore vast quantities of knowledge about many aspects of biology including the existence of the entire
sympathetic nervous systemwhich uses hormones to govern a person's energy expenditure at a completely unconscious level.
It ignores the existence of
Zucker Rats, a rat with a genetic flaw in its
leptinwhose
food intake does not fully their overall body composition(
Link1Link2). This is not even remotely new information, and has been known since the 90s.
Your disparagement of hormones as "magic" ignores how incredibly powerful they are for signaling in biological organisms. Hormones are largely responsible for creating
sexual differentiationin humans, they can "magically" turn males into females.
Furthermore you also ignore the
most well known "magic" hormone of all,
Anabolic steroids, which have an unbelievably clear and very measurable effect on a human's body composition and how it processes food.
There plenty of nonsense out there (I again refer to
nutritionism), but you were the one who decided to resort to personal attacks, at which point you clearly signaled the conversation was over. I responded in kind.
I am not familiar with Alan Argon, but I am with Lyle McDonald (I own, have read, and use several of his books), I will assume they line up philosophically. Lyle at least is an excellent technician at treating the symptom that is excess accumulation of adipose tissue, but this does nothing to address the root cause of the
underlying disease. They deal with already eager, curious, and especially motivated individuals offering great advice to help them get results
but this does absolutely nothing to obesity as a public health issue and population level disease.
If you want to be an adult, and have an actual conversation I am more than willing to do that. If you instead want to spew hate and be an all-around asshat (which is why I avoid the lifting thread like the plague) then I'll just add you to my ignore list. I have few qualms about that as it exists for a reason.