Weight Loss Thread

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Burnesto

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The only people that ever catch shit are the ones that post fads, then double down once they're proven wrong.
 

Cad

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Yea leave arkk the fuck alone. He gives good advice. Dumb people need a little berating. Especially dumb fatties.
 

Ossoi

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The only people that ever catch shit are the ones that post fads, then double down once they're proven wrong.
except that's not true, all it took for Arkk to decide that my PT is a con, a fraud, a snake oil salesman etc was for me to say that I purchased some Poliquin brand BCAA's.
 
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except that's not true, all it took for Arkk to decide that my PT is a con, a fraud, a snake oil salesman etc was for me to say that I purchased some Poliquin brand BCAA's.
No, it was because of the caliper stuff and you making statements akin to "There's no question, want fat loss, go low carb" when no ones gonna argue that it works but there definitely is a question and it isn't necessary. I gave and give you shit because you are paying someone to modify a template diet based on articles you can find for free on the Internet, and you aren't even under 15% bodyfat, and to me that's a waste of money. You could stop paying him and buying their supplements and who knows what else tomorrow and skate your way to to 10-12% in 6 weeks.

You've done enough research to do this, you are wasting money. You are the reason I rag on people because you know everything and can't possibly be wrong when you really know nothing and the ideas you are touting are ridiculous, but you are so tunnel visioned you won't even google them to see how silly you sound.
 

chaos

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Yea leave arkk the fuck alone. He gives good advice. Dumb people need a little berating. Especially dumb fatties.
Meh. Guys like Ubiquitrips, he's trying to do the right thing, which is get his shit under control. He just needs guidance. He's never going to take that guidance from someone who regards him as a piece of shit and berates him like a child. People in America are taught basic health stuff, but nutritionally we aren't taught a whole hell of a lot in school. So you grow up and get fat from eating things you thought were ok but turn out to be awful (that and sitting around on your ass) and then there is some guy who seemingly has some answers, and you do his program and see results so you think "wow, this works!" Then you go to share it and some snarling internet badass is all "SHITCOCK", so you're probably going to ignore him. If I am Ubiquitrips, that is what I do.

I mean yeah, we all need to laugh at coconut oil. But that shouldn't extend to vilifying people like him who are starting down a path and just have some bad information. And this bulletproof coffee garbage sounds like drinking sewage, why the fuck would anyone subject themselves to that?
 

Ossoi

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I gave and give you shit because you are paying someone to modify a template diet based on articles you can find for free on the Internet, and you aren't even under 15% bodyfat, and to me that's a waste of money. You could stop paying him and buying their supplements and who knows what else tomorrow and skate your way to to 10-12% in 6 weeks. .
Except that's not all there is to it you fucking moron, this is why I take such exception to your comment because you know nothing about a) The PT and the services b) Me and my own training motivation.

He designs my program and I train in a private gym with a fantastic range of equipment, there's things in there I've never even see at any other gym. I never have to wait to use a piece of equipment and I also get a weekly consultation to assess body fat and a weekly modified strongman training session. I wish I had the self motivation to go to a gym and not need a trainer but the truth is I don't...I don't even use the DDP yoga dvd's I downloaded..

You also implied my PT was a fraud, the array of strongman competitions he enters and wins indicate he knows something.
 

Ossoi

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You obviously, seeing as you're still banging that drum. And as for swear it's working, I've dropped 2 belt holes and am buying 30" waist trousers again instead of 34".. I don't need to swear anything

You also seem remarkably concerned about Ubiqs progress and methodology.

You never post about your own weight loss, so presumably your sole raison d'etre in this thread is to criticise other people. GO AWAY!
 

ubiquitrips

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The reason I enjoy these forums is that there are quite a few personalities and many of them share similar interests to myself. The reasons that I decided to post in the first place were because I was personally seeing progress and I also figure that some readers may be in a similar position to me and would like to try something else.

I fully intend to pursue this plan until I have reached my goal and then I will reassess. Whatever the name for it is, it will always be similar to Keto (that board is great, thanks), Paleo, Bulletproof, or Atkins. Whether I drink BPC or coffee with a bunch of heavy whipping cream in it, I really see no difference. It is all part of the same concept. What word does everyone despise less? Feels like Keto and Fat Bomb, I will just use that :p.

While Ark is a Jackass it doesn't mean he may not have a point. If things were reversed and everyone was gung ho about keto in this thread and berated anyone that came in with their viewpoint it would just be the same thing. This is the weight loss thread, not the you can only lose weight how we say so thread, right?
 

Dashel

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So. Breakfast this morning: ~5 scrambled eggs, 1 bell pepper cut up, handful of cherry tomatoes.

I also ordered a bunch of quest bars. Did we discuss those here? I forget. They're good shit. I mean, for a protein bar.

P.S. I cooked my eggs in coconut oil
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Noodleface

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I always had a problem with protein bars. They taste digusting, have the consistency of almost-dried glue, and sometimes have a bunch of sugar and stuff. I don't know what quest bars contain, so I'm speaking more general. I always enjoyed eating tuna straight out of the can for my protein, although I always get dirty looks when I do it.
 

Denaut

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Ark, your contention (along with the links you posted) seems to be that a person's general size, weight, and body composition are unrelated to hormones and entirely dependent on Calories in/Calories out. This is totally, patently, and demonstrably false.

To continue along this line of reasoning is to ignore vast quantities of knowledge about many aspects of biology including the existence of the entiresympathetic nervous systemwhich uses hormones to govern a person's energy expenditure at a completely unconscious level.

It ignores the existence ofZucker Rats, a rat with a genetic flaw in itsleptinwhosefood intake does not fully their overall body composition(Link1Link2). This is not even remotely new information, and has been known since the 90s.

Your disparagement of hormones as "magic" ignores how incredibly powerful they are for signaling in biological organisms. Hormones are largely responsible for creatingsexual differentiationin humans, they can "magically" turn males into females.

Furthermore you also ignore themost well known "magic" hormone of all,Anabolic steroids, which have an unbelievably clear and very measurable effect on a human's body composition and how it processes food.

There plenty of nonsense out there (I again refer tonutritionism), but you were the one who decided to resort to personal attacks, at which point you clearly signaled the conversation was over. I responded in kind.

I am not familiar with Alan Argon, but I am with Lyle McDonald (I own, have read, and use several of his books), I will assume they line up philosophically. Lyle at least is an excellent technician at treating the symptom that is excess accumulation of adipose tissue, but this does nothing to address the root cause of theunderlying disease. They deal with already eager, curious, and especially motivated individuals offering great advice to help them get resultsbut this does absolutely nothing to obesity as a public health issue and population level disease.

If you want to be an adult, and have an actual conversation I am more than willing to do that. If you instead want to spew hate and be an all-around asshat (which is why I avoid the lifting thread like the plague) then I'll just add you to my ignore list. I have few qualms about that as it exists for a reason.
 

Denaut

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I always had a problem with protein bars. They taste digusting, have the consistency of almost-dried glue, and sometimes have a bunch of sugar and stuff. I don't know what quest bars contain, so I'm speaking more general. I always enjoyed eating tuna straight out of the can for my protein, although I always get dirty looks when I do it.
Hard-boiled eggs make a good "protein snack" with the side bonus of being tasty real food.
 

ubiquitrips

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Forgot to update with yesterdays calories as well. I underestimated how much I was eating by around 20%, my fault.

Breakfast: BPC - Approx 400 calories
Lunch: lettuce wrap sandwich ham/swiss with carrots / blue cheese dressing Approx 600
Snack: half serving 2% cottage cheese - Approx 60 calories
Dinner: 2x Salmon Filet and 1.5 servings of broccoli w/ butter Approx 800 Calories

Total Calories: 1860

If low calories is a concern I can work on ways to increase them, it isn't hard to get a few extra hundred with fats.
 

apex

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I always enjoyed eating tuna straight out of the can for my protein, although I always get dirty looks when I do it.
Probably because that shit stinks like ass. I'm used to it because I used to eat tuna so damn much but I would always get looks too.

Doesn't hold a candle to sardines though. That smell makes me want to gag whenever someone pops a can.
 

Tarrant

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Meh. Guys like Ubiquitrips, he's trying to do the right thing, which is get his shit under control. He just needs guidance. He's never going to take that guidance from someone who regards him as a piece of shit and berates him like a child. People in America are taught basic health stuff, but nutritionally we aren't taught a whole hell of a lot in school. So you grow up and get fat from eating things you thought were ok but turn out to be awful (that and sitting around on your ass) and then there is some guy who seemingly has some answers, and you do his program and see results so you think "wow, this works!" Then you go to share it and some snarling internet badass is all "SHITCOCK", so you're probably going to ignore him. If I am Ubiquitrips, that is what I do.

I mean yeah, we all need to laugh at coconut oil. But that shouldn't extend to vilifying people like him who are starting down a path and just have some bad information. And this bulletproof coffee garbage sounds like drinking sewage, why the fuck would anyone subject themselves to that?
Well said sir.