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Lambourne

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Not quite ready to throw rocks at either party without more context. This looks (and sounds) like it's in Italy or maybe Spain. All of continental Europe drives on the right, so the damage is on the wrong side of the cars for it to have been a head on/side swipe.

I have some friends in the classic car rally circuit. The car's outfitted for it and the two guys in green are dressed up in period dress, as is common in the classic car rally circuit during events. The 40 year old BMW that's stopped in the background is probably part of the event too. Rallies held on public roads aren't supposed to be about speed but it probably won't surprise anyone that not everyone sticks to the rules at all times.

It's not all that uncommon for cars to get badly damaged during events and still get fixed up again. That classic car world has an entire cottage industry built up around it, it has a ton of skilled DIY'ers too. Classic cars are in many ways easier to repair than modern cars because the entire construction is so much simpler and tolerances larger.

Frankly, there's just a ton of extremely rich people in that world too. I've chatted to more than a few people that owned literally dozens of cars. They'll drop $100k on a repair like it's nothing, even if it doesn't make any economic sense.
 
Burns

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Lambourne said:
Not quite ready to throw rocks at either party without more context. This looks (and sounds) like it's in Italy or maybe Spain. All of continental Europe drives on the right, so the damage is on the wrong side of the cars for it to have been a head on/side swipe.

I have some friends in the classic car rally circuit. The car's outfitted for it and the two guys in green are dressed up in period dress, as is common in the classic car rally circuit during events. The 40 year old BMW that's stopped in the background is probably part of the event too. Rallies held on public roads aren't supposed to be about speed but it probably won't surprise anyone that not everyone sticks to the rules at all times.

It's not all that uncommon for cars to get badly damaged during events and still get fixed up again. That classic car world has an entire cottage industry built up around it, it has a ton of skilled DIY'ers too. Classic cars are in many ways easier to repair than modern cars because the entire construction is so much simpler and tolerances larger.

Frankly, there's just a ton of extremely rich people in that world too. I've chatted to more than a few people that owned literally dozens of cars. They'll drop $100k on a repair like it's nothing, even if it doesn't make any economic sense.
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Analyzing the scene from the video:

They sound Italian and have Italian stickers, she sounds American, but didn't say enough to be certain of accent. If she is American, it's probably a rental car. Her left side door is open, so it's also set up as left-hand drive (probably), best guess is they are indeed in Italy.

It looks like you can see a skid mark coming out of his correct lane (right) as he (maybe) locked them up at then end or it's from the front tire dragging after being disabled in the collision. She was coming around a bend that, if distracted and not making the turn tight enough, would put her heading into the grass on his side of the road.

So it's highly probable she was all the way into his lane, possibly riding the far white line and he tried to swerve at the last moment into the only open area, which was the opposite lane to him. That would certainly be a last resort as it is just as dangerous, or even more so, if she had looked up once and took proper action to correct her driving. There is no sign she tried to avoid them or brake. It doesn't look like they were speeding, as the vehicles don't look to have traveled very far after the collision.

As an aside, we can all learn an Italian cuss word:
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Sludig

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Times come, new tires coming, so while they are off time to maybe change the wheels. Here's the wheels i have, actually a more expensive I believe forged option. I hate the gray body clashes with darker gray of car. And silver rim already some imperfections and also just doesn't seem right.

The carbon is removable and I'll add back, not sure if I want gloss black, some kinda brown/bronze, or can even go full chrome like in the attached pic.

Also a gallery of others Powder Coated Wheels | Project Gallery | Prismatic Powders

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Mine is this color. Blacked out except for the wheels above. Would like to possibly mimic this car with the wheels and gold accents.
 
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Palum

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Yikes gold and chrome

Probably would look cool with bronze wheels though
 
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Burns

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Palum said:
Yikes gold and chrome

Probably would look cool with bronze wheels though
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I'm not a wheels person and thought they looked fine until I read this. Now I cant unsee...

...obviously the car needs gold rims too! Just like my old GTA:
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Sludig

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$1600 set.... Though that's trying to get into a 265/305 width setup. Might have to try Conti DWS 06+ seem to cross shop very well and can get way cheaper. Car is on 255/295 right now, I had wanted to go up to 265/305' though a tiny chance they dont actually fit my wheel but should.

Better prices at different stores. (costco/discount/tirerack)
Looks like I can get oem size 255/295 DWS for 1025 from Tirerack + having friend install them for I dont know how much.
$1076 for same installed at Discount pre buying certificates. (saved my ass heavily in my VW, but hadn't needed em since but mostly truck tire time)
PS AS4 for 1200 installed at costco 255/295
PS AS4 ~1550 for the 265/305's. costco (1322 dws06 Fatties at tire rack)
 
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Burren

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Sludig said:
Edit for simplicity

$1600 set.... Though that's trying to get into a 265/305 width setup. Might have to try Conti DWS 06+ seem to cross shop very well and can get way cheaper. Car is on 255/295 right now, I had wanted to go up to 265/305' though a tiny chance they dont actually fit my wheel but should.

Better prices at different stores. (costco/discount/tirerack)
Looks like I can get oem size 255/295 DWS for 1025 from Tirerack + having friend install them for I dont know how much.
$1076 for same installed at Discount pre buying certificates. (saved my ass heavily in my VW, but hadn't needed em since but mostly truck tire time)
PS AS4 for 1200 installed at costco 255/295
PS AS4 ~1550 for the 265/305's. costco (1322 dws06 Fatties at tire rack)
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Almost zero chance anything will go wrong if wheel diameters match (or are very close) front to back. Going wider is fine as long as it fits within the wheel well and doesn’t run suspension or body pieces.

I go wider on tires over OEM every time.
 
Sludig

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Burren said:
Almost zero chance anything will go wrong if wheel diameters match (or are very close) front to back. Going wider is fine as long as it fits within the wheel well and doesn’t run suspension or body pieces.

I go wider on tires over OEM every time.
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Been ages since I ever had to replace a brake pad.... think I'm crazy to not do rotors at same time? Cars only got 28k miles though last guy drove it somewhat hard on the street. Pads were at 12/10 mm

Re Tire size, just $500 or 50% more again almost is just tough and I'm scared of the small chance they wont go on the wheel, they had like 15 wheel models so hard to find firm examples.
Cant recall my first F's sizes, but it slung dirt up the sides of tyhe car way worse.
 
Burren

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Sludig said:
Been ages since I ever had to replace a brake pad.... think I'm crazy to not do rotors at same time? Cars only got 28k miles though last guy drove it somewhat hard on the street. Pads were at 12/10 mm

Re Tire size, just $500 or 50% more again almost is just tough and I'm scared of the small chance they wont go on the wheel, they had like 15 wheel models so hard to find firm examples.
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Not sure I’m the best one to answer that because I’d suggest some StopTech, Willwood, or GiroDisc upgrades and grippy pads. I consider tires and brakes to be two things that you absolutely do not skimp on.

Also, depends how long you intend to keep the car.
 
Sludig

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Burren said:
Not sure I’m the best one to answer that because I’d suggest some StopTech, Willwood, or GiroDisc upgrades and grippy pads. I consider tires and brakes to be two things that you absolutely do not skimp on.

Also, depends how long you intend to keep the car.
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Was just going to get simple EBC Yellow stuff, but if I'm doing rotors, that's a whole new level of research to do all over. FWIW from previous discussions, I dont track here, just mild maniac on the highway so it's probably all fine.
 
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Sludig said:
Been ages since I ever had to replace a brake pad.... think I'm crazy to not do rotors at same time? Cars only got 28k miles though last guy drove it somewhat hard on the street. Pads were at 12/10 mm

Re Tire size, just $500 or 50% more again almost is just tough and I'm scared of the small chance they wont go on the wheel, they had like 15 wheel models so hard to find firm examples.
Cant recall my first F's sizes, but it slung dirt up the sides of tyhe car way worse.
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Get some calipers and measure your rotor thickness. Rotors are just a big heat sink and friction material, they wear down just like pads do. If the rotors are thick enough (and still straight) they're fine and don't need be replaced. If they aren't thick enough, they need to be replaced.

For some cars replacing rotors makes the brake job a lot harder (if the pads come out the top of the calipers, changing pads is literally a 5 minute job). If its not necessary and its not a track car, I wouldn't replace them just because.
 
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Fucker

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Burren said:
I consider tires and brakes to be two things that you absolutely do not skimp on.
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...and they are the things most people completely skimp on, at least for normal use. I might as well toss car manufacturers on the "most people" heap, too. They are putting genuine shit on vehicles these days. Poor traction, noisy, dead at 20k miles.

When I do brakes, it is new top quality rotors with new matching pads 100% of the time. New calipers if needed, and complete brake fluid flush every 3 years. Best tires for the application = cheapest insurance money can buy.

Life is too short to put up with long stopping distances and getting stuck in bad weather.
 
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Lambourne

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If there was still 12mm of pad left at 28k miles I can't imagine them having been run hard enough to wear down the rotors to the point they need replacing. But as above, measuring is knowing.

Stopping distance is entirely dependent on tire traction, even basic factory brakes are powerful enough to lock the wheels/hold them in ABS slip. Only once you start tracking and need to deal with heat dispersion does an upgrade start to make sense.

Tires is one of those things where the more you look into it, the less you realize you know because it gets all kinds of complicated and it's compromises all the way down. Just going wider on tires doesn't necessarily add traction under all circumstances though, and it can actually throw off alignment because the contact patch changes shape and moves around, both statically and dynamically.

In short, don't just get wider tires because you think it's "better". But, if you like the look of them more, than can be reason enough. Just accept that there's a trade-off somewhere.
 
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Burren

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That’s why you get a fresh alignment after. And wider is sometimes because it just looks better. Compound makes the most difference. Like, 90% of the difference. I run 4s on all the dailies and cup2 on all the toys. But, there are tons of great options out there.
 
Sludig

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Lambourne said:
If there was still 12mm of pad left at 28k miles I can't imagine them having been run hard enough to wear down the rotors to the point they need replacing. But as above, measuring is knowing.

Stopping distance is entirely dependent on tire traction, even basic factory brakes are powerful enough to lock the wheels/hold them in ABS slip. Only once you start tracking and need to deal with heat dispersion does an upgrade start to make sense.

Tires is one of those things where the more you look into it, the less you realize you know because it gets all kinds of complicated and it's compromises all the way down. Just going wider on tires doesn't necessarily add traction under all circumstances though, and it can actually throw off alignment because the contact patch changes shape and moves around, both statically and dynamically.

In short, don't just get wider tires because you think it's "better". But, if you like the look of them more, than can be reason enough. Just accept that there's a trade-off somewhere.
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Whats funny my dealer said 10/12, but when inspected in Feb by the sellers dealer, they said 9/8. So dunno, for me at least, I baboon fast around but mostly highway I'm very rarely on the brakes much. I've never replaced my pads on any car in my life actually, except on the mustang just hunting for better bite.
 
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So I have a story about my car battery... it's got a positive and negative side to it.

Positive : The OEM battery in my car has lasted almost 8 years. (2017-current)
Negative : Nowhere that offers the "buy a battery here and we'll install it" options will touch my car as the battery is in the trunk. Dealership will, but apparently that's a $300 premium to have them do it.. literally more than the cost of the battery.

So cheap ass me is about to do it himself. I used only the best of guidance to make sure this was within my skillset.. (Youtube)
 
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Swapping a battery is easy as hell. 12V batteries aren't particularly dangerous as long as you don't like connect the terminals with a wrench or something. Be sure to get the restraints in the battery box put back right, the battery is restrained for a very good reason.
 
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