Why was the Civil War fought?

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Was taught in elementary school that it was about state's rights and the North was trying to crush the life out of the South with tariffs and shit. Had nothing to do with slavery.

In actuality, it was only about state's rights as far as the South wanted the right to own people as slaves.
 

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Slavery. Revisionist southern history would like you to believe it was about states rights, but that's patently untrue. One of the states even said it was because of slavery directly in their secession statement.

Myth #1: The Civil War wasn't about slavery.

The most widespread myth is also the most basic. Across America, 60 percent to 75 percent of high-school history teachers believe and teach that the South seceded for state's rights, said Jim Loewen, author of "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" (Touchstone, 1996) and co-editor of "The Confederate and Neo-Confederate Reader: The 'Great Truth' about the 'Lost Cause'" (University Press of Mississippi, 2010).

"It's complete B.S.," Loewen told LiveScience. "And by B.S., I mean 'bad scholarship.'"

In fact, Loewen said, the original documents of the Confederacy show quite clearly that the war was based on one thing: slavery. For example, in its declaration of secession, Mississippi explained, "Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery - the greatest material interest of the world . a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization." In its declaration of secession, South Carolina actually comes out against the rights of states to make their own laws - at least when those laws conflict with slaveholding. "In the State of New York even the right of transit for a slave has been denied by her tribunals," the document reads. The right of transit, Loewen said, was the right of slaveholders to bring their slaves along with them on trips to non-slaveholding states.

In its justification of secession, Texas sums up its view of a union built upon slavery: "We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable."

The myth that the war was not about slavery seems to be a self-protective one for many people, said Stan Deaton, the senior historian at the Georgia Historical Society.

"People think that somehow it demonizes their ancestors," to have fought for slavery, Deaton told LiveScience. But the people fighting at the time were very much aware of what was at stake, Deaton said.

"[Defining the war] is our problem," he said. "I don't think it was theirs."
6 Civil War Myths, Busted | 150th Anniversary of Civil War | Slavery, Race Relations Battlefield Medicine | LiveScience
 

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Was taught in elementary school that it was about state's rights and the North was trying to crush the life out of the South with tariffs and shit. Had nothing to do with slavery.

In actuality, it was only about state's rights as far as the South wanted the right to own people as slaves.
it wasn't just about slaves. North and South lived different type of life, which included slavery. North was the land of immigrants, opportunity, and industry. South was the land of agrarian society, farmers and wut not. Consider these criteria and see why the South was racist. Blacks in North was often separated and lived sparingly, which means faster assimilation. South had too many blacks and integration evolved differently from the whites and the North.

Two distinctive way of life that contradicted each other and the politic naturally followed.
 

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Because working class southern males were too dumb to realize how bad slavery was for their own wage levels. So much so that they chose to DIE for the plantation owners' rights to have slaves.

So the real answer is just plainly: Ignorance.
 

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except you're a dumbass. States that had similar economies to northern states and weren't even remotely southern in culture had slavery. (Maryland, Delaware and D.C.)
 

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except you're a dumbass. States that had similar economies to northern states and weren't even remotely southern in culture had slavery. (Maryland, Delaware and D.C.)
How can a worker compete with slave labor? Work for 0 dollars?
 

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How can a worker compete with slave labor? Work for 0 dollars?
White plantation owner did hire white workers and they were treated fairly better and was lenient. Cost of slave maintenance was not cheap for a lot of plantations.

so slavery is not exactly 0 wage.

Jefferson had to sell his slaves to pay off his debt, incurred between his slave transactions and maintenance of his extravagant lifestyle.
 

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Cost of slave maintenance was not cheap for a lot of plantations.

so slavery is not exactly 0 wage.




Citation fucking needed. Also
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Hey faggots,

I'm doing a historical research project and if any of you dumbasses would kindly partake in this I would appreciate it.

So yeah, why was the Civil War fought? Either your own formulated opinion or whatever you were taught in school, by your parents, etc.

This would actually help me out a ton if you guys would participate before it gets rickshawed.
The chances of a request for knowledge or assistance being productive is increased exponentially when preceded by the greeting "Hey faggots".

It is known.
 

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Cost of slave maintenance was not cheap for a lot of plantations.

so slavery is not exactly 0 wage.




Citation fucking needed. Also
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Slave owners had to feed, house, and care for their slaves. Some slaves received special treatments, and those were often of skilled slave labour.
We are talking about slaves that have worth. These are properties that you can sell, buy and trade. If you waste them without care, value of your slave goes down. You can't sell them for jackshit.
 

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except you're a dumbass. States that had similar economies to northern states and weren't even remotely southern in culture had slavery. (Maryland, Delaware and D.C.)
Pretty sure all three axed slavery well beforethe schism. I know of a few MD landmarks with misinformation on plaques and such if not. (Also wasn't DC established postcivil war?)