TrollfaceDeux
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false rape accusations vary in reasons. From psychotic to social conditioning. Mostly, lack of one's ability to assume responsibility and dealing with fuck ups.
Woman who was getting her box munched on in public now claiming rape
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Actually tanoomba, people are capable of lying about rape BECAUSE They are human beings, not the other way around
Virginia Woman Falsely Accuses Man Of Rape And Sends Him Away For Four Years Before Recanting . . . Given Just 60 Days In Jail To Be Served On Weekends
Virginia Woman Falsely Accuses Man Of Rape And Sends Him Away For Four Years Before Recanting . . . Given Just 60 Days In Jail To Be Served On Weekends
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Most of the time, you're right. But because they are human beings, they do fucked up shit sometimes. As noted in the Duke Lacrosse case and other cases, women do falsely accuse rape knowing that everyone will rally to the "victims" side, and cause a tremendous amount of pain for the accused, regardless of the evidence.
Not that it happens all the time or anything, but it does happen.
TrollfaceDeux
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Problem is, that ain't the view most have, and it's only perpetuating more with the bullshit that spreads over the interwebs. Good luck fighting your fight, brah
And I sincerely hope you've never used the argument "dont go into that neighborhood, it's dangerous" or "don't leave your car unlocked, it'll get stolen" because it's fucking retarded that you can't use that for drinking and the risks involved - which includes being incapacitated
Does it absolve the perpetrator? Fuck no it doesn't, the guy who mugs you / steals your car is still a criminal, as is a rapist. But did the victim probably put themselves in a bad situation? Fuck yes, it did, and it's also ridiculous that people think you can't say that or else you're blaming the victim. You aren't blaming the victim - but the victim is often *responsible* for putting themselves in a bad situation. We're not talking about someone breaking into your house at gunpoint and raping you. We're talking about getting so fucked up that you can't control yourself. And if you drink alcohol but can't have the self discipline or self control to know when you've had enough, you probably shouldn't be drinking.
Nobody is forcing you to drink, it's your choice - but here again we havepeople trying to absolve themselves of their own responsibility
Eomer
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Most of that probably has to do with outright ignorance of the facts of the case, and people confusing the initial incident itself (which may or may not have been consensual, depending on who you believe) with the distribution of child pornography and/or the rampant bullying that followed and resulted in her suicide. That was certainly the case with my opinions on the matter prior to you schooling me awhile back.
But even if the sex itself was consensual, what happened to her afterward was fucking despicable.
No, there's some injustice there, just likely not in terms of rape. A girl hung herself because she made a drunken mistake at a party and dozens of people drove her to suicide. Some of those people ought to face some consequences.Haast_sl said:
Is that even true? The wording posted in the first page of this thread said "incapacitated". There's a range of mental states in between "sober as a judge" and "passed out drunk".GoingBackToCali_sl said:
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Unless I misread, they did. Two of them were charged for distributing the pic, which was the catalyst for the problem.
Is there more to it that the article didn't cover?
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Surprise! I make a comment that girls don't accuse people of rape for the hell of it, and we get people going "But look at this case!", "And this one!" as if that somehow changes my point. I guess I should have said "generally", since yes, it's absolutely true that women, like men, can do exceptionally shitty things and be exceptionally shitty people. But how much of your daily life do you spend worrying about people doing shitty things to you? I don't worry about the convenience store clerk screwing me out of my change (although I'm sure there are cases of that happening), I don't worry about the driver ahead of me slamming on the brakes for no reason (that's happened to plenty of people), and I don't worry about a girl I picked up at a bar accusing me of raping her. Acting as though this is some kind of epidemic is retarded, especially when actual rape is a far, far bigger problem that affects many more people. You want to stop false rape accusations? Aces, brothers, so do I. Stricter punishments for false accusers, programs to help people who have been falsely accused, better education about responsible partying and the potential consequences of drinking too much, all of these are potentially productive ideas. Villainizing people who are fighting for a worthy cause because it's fun to insult them does more harm than good, and certainly does nothing to stem the "false rape accusations" problem.
People are legally allowed to drink as much as they want as long as they don't cause a disturbance. People are not legally allowed to rape. To say that someone who drinks should take responsibility for being raped is fucking retarded. That's basically the same thing as saying that if a girl gets drunk at a party, she should assume she's going to be raped (otherwise she shouldn't have gotten drunk, right?). Now who's perpetuating the weak woman and the big bad man stereotype? Shouldn't anybody be able to drink and not have to worry about getting raped, regardless of gender? Sounds to me like you're arguing that guys should be allowed to, evenexpected torape if the girl is drunk enough, since she's at least partly to blame, right? Idiot.
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"The video is 1:27 in length. The male was clearly providing oral sex to the female. Generally speaking, the two appeared to be willing participants who were, frankly, enjoying themselves. At one point in the video, the female put her right hand on the back of the male's head while he was engaged. This lasted about eight seconds. Two different times in the video, the male looked around at different onlookers and exchanged words with them. This was in response to jeers they hurled at the couple. His words were unintelligible."
"The video is 1:27 in length. The male was clearly providing oral sex to the female. Generally speaking, the two appeared to be willing participants who were, frankly, enjoying themselves. At one point in the video, the female put her right hand on the back of the male's head while he was engaged. This lasted about eight seconds. Two different times in the video, the male looked around at different onlookers and exchanged words with them. This was in response to jeers they hurled at the couple. His words were unintelligible."
Eomer
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The harassment extended a lot further than just the two guys who took and sent the pic out. Again, dozens of people taunted her mercilessly long after the incident, to the point that she attempted suicide multiple times. Finally she got close enough when she hung herself that the family pulled the plug because of brain damage.
Suicide of Rehtaeh Parsons - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Also, were it not for the huge public backlash after she died, the two wouldn't have been charged. The RCMP had previously investigated the incident and declined to press charges until after she killed herself and the story went nuclear. That's an injustice in and of itself. But again, the harassment extended far past just those two boys.
The only good thing to come out of that whole mess was new legislation in that province to crack down on cyberbullying/harassment:N.S. cyberbullying legislation allows victims to sue - Nova Scotia - CBC News
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Drinsic
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I got a handy against my will from some butterface I tried hooking my old roommate up with once. I was passed out drunk as fuck, woke up to her going to town with 5 other people sleeping around us. My lawyer friends told me this is sexual battery. Wasn't a big deal, not sure what all these broads are whining about.
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Criminal harassment and distribution of child pornography, for a couple.
264. Criminal harassment | Criminal Code of Canada
She was getting dozens of requests for sex through text, Facebook, and other social media. This is a 15 year old girl, at the time.
264. Criminal harassment | Criminal Code of Canada
She was getting dozens of requests for sex through text, Facebook, and other social media. This is a 15 year old girl, at the time.
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