Don't put words into my mouth.What's the problem? They should both "take responsibility" for their actions, right? They both got drunk and made stupid decisions that led to their lives potentially being ruined. It would be a double standard to say a girl should take partial responsibility for being raped, but a guy shouldn't for being accused of rape. Rape and false accusations of rape are both heinous acts that have a victim. Is anybody trying to say that a guy falsely accused of rape did nothing wrong, but a girl who was raped did do something wrong? Please clarify.
At no point was I referring to genuine rape victims. The ones who need to take responsibility are the ones who get drunk, hook up with someone of their own free will, feel embarrassed the next morning and try to save face by claiming they were raped. And that's not even touching on false accusations lodged for revenge, attention, etc. I know feminists like to throw everyone who's ever claimed to have been raped, ever, into some nebulous 'rape victim' category, but in the real world we distinguish between people to whom something actually happened, and those who just claim it happened to them for their own personal benefit. If you're going to try and engage people in debate, don't try and twist everything they say.It would be a double standard to say a girl should take partial responsibility for being raped
Let's take it a step further for accuracy. The definition of rape does not include "Woman who was drunk and allowed a drunk guy to have sex with her."I think what people are trying to say is that the definition of rape does not include "woman who was drunk and decided to have sex with someone."
The correct term is "legitimate" rape victims.Don't put words into my mouth.
At no point was I referring to genuine rape victims.
Nicely put.Don't put words into my mouth.
At no point was I referring to genuine rape victims. The ones who need to take responsibility are the ones who get drunk, hook up with someone of their own free will, feel embarrassed the next morning and try to save face by claiming they were raped. And that's not even touching on false accusations lodged for revenge, attention, etc. I know feminists like to throw everyone who's ever claimed to have been raped, ever, into some nebulous 'rape victim' category, but in the real world we distinguish between people to whom something actually happened, and those who just claim it happened to them for their own personal benefit. If you're going to try and engage people in debate, don't try and twist everything they say.
The irony is that women who lodge false rape accusations do more to harm real rape victims than anyone except for actual rapists. By lodging false accusations for their own personal gain, they not only diminish the very real suffering that genuine victims have undergone, but also ensure that real victims have to go to a much greater effort to be believed. If you really care about rape victims, you should be coming down on false accusers as hard as possible.
Give me a fucking break."The stereotype of the ugly, unfuckable feminist exists for a reason - because it's still the last, best line of defence against any woman who is a little too loud, a little too political. Just tell her that if she goes on as she is, nobody will love her. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I've always believed that part of the point of feminist politics - part of the point of any sort of radical politics - is that some principles are more important than being universally adored, particularly by the sort of men who would prefer women to smile quietly and grow our hair out."
women 101 "whatever we say,is not what we want to say.you have to figure it out"what are we, God?
why do you even have a tumblr, apart from porn?Give me a fucking break.
Ladies and gentlemen, the problem.Do youfeellike the sex happened without your consent?
you need to check up on Politic Thread sometimes. Zero troll.Tanoomba wins Troll of the Month.
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