World of Warcraft: Current Year

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Cybsled

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Which is different from LFR how? You killed a "noob" version of Naggy. Our server killed him with probably 75% of the raid under level cap and equipped in bronze/finesteel (and maybe the rare piece of ruby!). If you killed him with everyone at 50 you did it noob mode. I'm sorry, your whole EQ1 career was LFR and you didn't know it.
 

Draegan_sl

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We've already covered this. You make stuff up to prove a point. Most people have you on ignore anyways, clearly your point means nothing.
It's not very far to think that A LOT of people do that same thing. That's not to say some people think that LFR is nothing and it's all about Heroics. But we're talking about the larger population here.
 

kudos

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Which is different from LFR how? You killed a "noob" version of Naggy. Our server killed him with probably 75% of the raid under level cap and equipped in bronze/finesteel (and maybe the rare piece of ruby!). If you killed him with everyone at 50 you did it noob mode. I'm sorry, your whole EQ1 career was LFR and you didn't know it.
I love how every single WoW fan goes right to assumptions and generalizations about any EQ players. You guys are so delusional it's hilarious to an outsider.
 

Abefroman

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I love how every single WoW fan goes right to assumptions and generalizations about any EQ players. You guys are so delusional it's hilarious to an outsider.
LOL. Seriously fucking lol.

WoW must be doing something right since Dumar buys every single expansion and goes to Blizzcon.
 

BoozeCube

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I am always amazed at the amount of ferver and drive that goes into defending Blizzards design from some of the posters. I know most of you can't even fathom the idea of "Risk vs. Reward" but when you get all the reward from LFR and the only thing left is a couple of ilvl and a different color armor it just isn't worth it. It might even be better to say "Effort vs. Reward" is it so hard to belive that people don't give two fucks about doing the same content 4-5 different ways? Really?

Trying to compare it to single player games would almost be fucking pathetic if WoW wasn't a single player game these days. Yes some of you guys who might be lucky enough to have a guild of friends you have played with for years and years I can see why you might log in out of habit and to keep in touch but the reality thats very few and fucking far between. Most people who started around EQ days or even Vanilla aren't around anymore and forget the idea of an entire guild of these people staying.

Instead most of you guys log in daily to grind your fucking hamster pellets and have forgotten log ago why you even played to begin with. I enjoyed MMORPG's for the whole "You are in our world now" type of experience and WOW lost that somewhere over the last 8 years. You can see it by how many people are longing for that in almost every new MMORPG thread on this forum. But keep telling yourself that Version_04 of RehashedMob_8 is the real game and everyone else is missing the point.
 

Cybsled

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Instead most of you guys log in daily to grind your fucking hamster pellets and have forgotten log ago why you even played to begin with. I enjoyed MMORPG's for the whole "You are in our world now" type of experience and WOW lost that somewhere over the last 8 years. You can see it by how many people are logging for that in almost every new MMORPG thread on this forum. But keep telling yourself that Version_04 of RehashedMob_8 is the real game and everyone else is missing the point.
But at its core, this is what most MMO design was even going back to EQ1: Carrots/pellets that you follow pretty much forever and without end. New expansion, restart the grind. Eventually it starts to feel more like a job than a game. While some people get off on it, it removes the fun factor. It happened with EQ1, FFXI, WOW, etc.

Granted some people played for the "community", but at the end of the day, if you were raiding it was primarily for epeen (a factor of the quality of raid loot).
 

Dumar_sl

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LOL. Seriously fucking lol.

WoW must be doing something right since Dumar buys every single expansion and goes to Blizzcon.
Maybe Dumar gets into Blizzcon for free? And I told you before I liked early Cataclysm. It gave me hope, albeit hope that was ran into the mud again.
 

BoozeCube

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But at its core, this is what most MMO design was even going back to EQ1: Carrots/pellets that you follow pretty much forever and without end. New expansion, restart the grind. Eventually it starts to feel more like a job than a game. While some people get off on it, it removes the fun factor. It happened with EQ1, FFXI, WOW, etc.

Granted some people played for the "community", but at the end of the day, if you were raiding it was primarily for epeen (a factor of the quality of raid loot).
I agree that were is some of that present and every MMO, but the case with WoW and probably even the most recent expansions from EQ,EQ2 and damn near every other MMO is that they have swung the pendulum to far in the direction of really turning the whole thing into easy bite sized single player experience. This is great for some games but not for MMO's at least for not me personally. No game ever hit the reset button as often as WoW or really made the effort put into a character as worthless as WoW. I mean really in like what 2-3 weeks you can go from a new character to having seen everything in game. Everything is pretty much on rails, you can't lose at WoW,

I mean really think about that for a second.Could you lose at World of Warcraft if you even tried?
From the worst player to the very best player in the game the only difference is the color scheme of the latest tier set.
 

kudos

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If a game has to reset how you fucking play it every expansion then something is wrong with your game.
 

Vulg

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For a lot of people, when you trivialize content, with easier difficulty levels (i.e. LFR, Normal, Heroic) then those people fell less inclined to see the challenge or really care about it. Part of the exclusivity is seeing and doing the content that other people might not be able to.

It's different than a single player game. In a single player game, you are essentially competing by yourself against yourself. You only compare individual experiences with friends. However in a shared online space, where you doing this with others, compare experiences with not only your friends but with strangers and the community at large in a single server and in the game as a whole, make content easier for those "who just want access" takes a way the importance of the raid.
I suppose it comes down to what you get out of the game. If I cared about my 'standing' amongst the general population in the game, what you describe might be important to me ... but what keeps me subbed is VERY simple and what I alluded to earlier - I very much enjoy beating tough raid encounters with a group of people I like. For that, there isn't anything that comes close atm (Rift came closest in terms of quality of raiding).

I get that there are people who feel their accomplishments are diminished because the plebes get access to easy-mode versions of the content, but I'm just completely apathetic to their experiences or even their opinion of guilds like mine.
 

BoozeCube

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I'm just completely apathetic to their experiences or even their opinion of guilds like mine.
Trust me nobody has an opinion of your guild or any other like it. Was there ever even a guild site like FoH that people gave a shit about during the height of WoW's golden era? To think that most people even know you on your x-realm instanced server it pretty fucking egotistical in WoW's current state, outside of your guild nobody knows you or gives two fucks and they don't have to you don't influence the game. There was a time in WoW when people might know your guild on your own server but that was when you put Ony's and Nef's head up in the middle of town and everyone got a buff and you were the only one with Warrior Teir 2 trashcan armor, not MoP.
 

Titan_Atlas

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I haven't changed. I enjoyed killling big, bad dragons to see bigger, badder dragons. Instead, I got the same dragon with a heroic label.

And with LFR, I can afk and experience the same dragons. As much effort as not killing them is required to kill them.

When that 'accessibility' was added was where I lost the connection, and the problem I'm describing.
The great thing about you is your last avatar was some socialist marxist bullshit. You sir are an idiot, you said not playing nets you the same results, no shit thats why communism doesn't work cause the guys working don't want to carry the worthless pieces of shit for the same pay. At Draegan a couple posts down yeah this is why people hate listening to this asshole Dumar, you mean people like their ability to determine their accomplishments? No shit. Also btw saying the guy who passes the 5th grade competence test is the same as the guy who passes the bar exam is a retarded analogy.
 

BoozeCube

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The great thing about you is your last avatar was some socialist marxist bullshit. You sir are an idiot, you said not playing nets you the same results, no shit thats why communism doesn't work cause the guys working don't want to carry the worthless pieces of shit for the same pay. At Draegan a couple posts down yeah this is why people hate listening to this asshole Dumar, you mean people like their ability to determine their accomplishments? No shit. Also btw saying the guy who passes the 5th grade competence test is the same as the guy who passes the bar exam is a retarded analogy.
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Abefroman

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The great thing about you is your last avatar was some socialist marxist bullshit. You sir are an idiot, you said not playing nets you the same results, no shit thats why communism doesn't work cause the guys working don't want to carry the worthless pieces of shit for the same pay. At Draegan a couple posts down yeah this is why people hate listening to this asshole Dumar, you mean people like their ability to determine their accomplishments? No shit. Also btw saying the guy who passes the 5th grade competence test is the same as the guy who passes the bar exam is a retarded analogy.
You just had to fucking say communism didn't you? Wait for it.......
 

Vulg

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Trust me nobody has an opinion of your guild or any other like it. Was there ever even a guild site like FoH that people gave a shit about during the height of WoW's golden era? To think that most people even know you on your x-realm instanced server it pretty fucking egotistical in WoW's current state, outside of your guild nobody knows you or gives two fucks and they don't have to you don't influence the game. There was a time in WoW when people might know your guild on your own server but that was when you put Ony's and Nef's head up in the middle of town and everyone got a buff and you were the only one with Warrior Teir 2 trashcan armor, not MoP.
That's exactly my point - raiding for the purpose of having people masturbate over your T2 armor was stupid in the first place. Is this really what motivates people? If so, praise allah for my lucking into a place that raids because, oh I don't know, it's good fucking fun to beat bosses after smashing your head against them for a bunch of nights.

"There was a time" ... bullshit, there was never a time when anybody mattered online. If you're getting your MMO high out of this pseudo recognition instead the actual path that led you to those boss kills and the laughter and drama along the way, you're doing it wrong.