Let's be fair here: Some of the behaviour on these raids, and I don't mean the boss tuning, has given cause for complaint. Multiple deaths to the same shit every pull? Check. Not flasking/eating on progression? Check. Showing up after weeks of hiatus and instantly talking about loot? Check.
I just want to make shit dead, so I try to ignore that stuff and do my part, but you're not the only one muttering about those damn kids on the lawn. Some of these things are the reason that we took so long on Helya, though.