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Kuro · Nov 4, 2013

You obviously need more Mages killing themselves/the raid with Alter Time to spice things up sir

This raid's heroic mode feels much more Execution-Skill-Based than some of the prior tiers' heroics. There are considerably fewer instances of "Three effects line up to insta-gib you" or random bad luck shit causing excess wipes (Although when Thok decides to ignore how he's supposed to work and chases the same person forever that's certainly "fun"). If your raid group is proficient at handling rote tasks, the heroics fall over pretty quickly.

Embarassingly, the Heroic that took the longest for us to down was Immerseus, because our DPS are bloody derps. They handle the puddles fine when spread around the boss, but once they consolidate onto one or two planks they seem to forget to not stand in shit.

Juvarisx · Nov 4, 2013

Heroic Siegecrafter is ridiculous, but yes I agree its less random and if you have people who are not retarded its probably easier then ToT. Individually I would say the fights are "harder" however but there is no heroic Primordious where you wipe because your mages and locks get the wrong buffs constantly due to RNG.

Falstaff · Nov 4, 2013

Coming back to the game after 4 or 5 years (quit right after Icecrown came out), it's like an entirely new game. Paladin changes were confusing at first so I just said forget it and rolled a goblin rogue on Area 52 since I'm only doing the 10 day trial until MoP hopefully goes on sale Black Friday.

Dandai · Nov 4, 2013

Gorehack_sl said:
So...not sure if Siege of Orgrimmar heroics are easier....or my guild is just getting better. Or this is the first tier in MoP we haven't had a faggot leave and had to switch classes around and gear up new people.

But we're 7/14 and US 342nd 10 man...which is...weird. Our item level puts us at US 902 and we've been downing new heroics in like an hour. Fuckin' twilight zone and shit man.

I need a new meme:

I [wish I knew] that feel bro.

Caeden · Nov 4, 2013

I'm getting pumped about Blizzcon. Need to pull up my predictions post and see how it does. For whatever reason, I'm genuinely excited for what's coming. I just don't think the big time travel retcon shit is happening. Instead I think it's going to be a future Outland with said "warlords" coming back. I also think they might have some COT based raids/zones and have another new zone that's in the twisting nether.

Guzrog · Nov 4, 2013

Caeden_sl said:
I'm getting pumped about Blizzcon. Need to pull up my predictions post and see how it does. For whatever reason, I'm genuinely excited for what's coming. I just don't think the big time travel retcon shit is happening. Instead I think it's going to be a future Outland with said "warlords" coming back. I also think they might have some COT based raids/zones and have another new zone that's in the twisting nether.

Pretty pumped myself. The whole warlords of draenor thing sounds god awful but I'm going to have faith they have something solid planned. I'd love to have the Burning Legion as the main antagonist again. Sargeras has been awfully quiet. Time travel though? Outside of some dungeons I don't really like the idea of an entire expansion based off time travel. Thinking about it though I wouldn't really be surprised with all the references to the bronze drakes last couple expansions.

Uriel · Nov 4, 2013

I wouldn't mind Medivh returning, and getting Karazhan 2.0. Time travel sounds stupid though, especially if we have to go and fight another Hellscream.

Asmadai · Nov 4, 2013

Warlords of Draenor it may be, but I highly, highly, highly doubt it will have Grom Hellscream as a final villain, or a villain at all. My money is still on Sargeras. It's time.

Cybsled · Nov 4, 2013

Time travel could be cool, but only if engineers can make a TARDIS or Deloreon. Bonus points if the engi malfunction sends you to the future and it's Starcraft or Warhammer 40k style lol.

GonzytheMage · Nov 4, 2013

I'm not an lolore major at wow, but didn't the legion start with with the orcs summoning demons then a floodgate kinda open thereafter leading to the corruption of orcs giving them bloodlust? I know the legion was an enforcer for the titans and said fuck you we will do things our way. So couldn't the expansion be based of going back in time to stop them from being summoned in the first place? You could then have Grom as an antagonist and savior with mini raids trying to stop/save him. I'm sure I'm paraphrasing it a great deal, if someone with more knowledge can chime in and make more sense of my gibberish.

I kinda took from the legendary questline that the end of azeroth is a sure thing at this point so we'd need to stop them from ever coming to prevent them from destroying everything in the present. If all else fails I'm sure it has a moon with snakes on it we can fuck around on.

Chris · Nov 4, 2013

Having a dead good guy be the bad guy of an expansion sounds dumb, even if it's time travel to past Draenor then surely the bad guy would be Gul'dan, Ner'zhul or Blackhand? Grom was just the chief of one clan.

GonzytheMage · Nov 4, 2013

Chris_sl said:
Having a dead good guy be the bad guy of an expansion sounds dumb, even if it's time travel to past Draenor then surely the bad guy would be Gul'dan, Ner'zhul or Blackhand? Grom was just the chief of one clan.

Yeah that was more of my point Warlords could be all the clan leaders and we are caught in the middle of stopping them from fucking everything up.

Itzena_sl · Nov 4, 2013

GonzytheMage_sl said:
I'm not an lolore major at wow, but didn't the legion start with with the orcs summoning demons then a floodgate kinda open thereafter leading to the corruption of orcs giving them bloodlust? I know the legion was an enforcer for the titans and said fuck you we will do things our way. So couldn't the expansion be based of going back in time to stop them from being summoned in the first place? You could then have Grom as an antagonist and savior with mini raids trying to stop/save him. I'm sure I'm paraphrasing it a great deal, if someone with more knowledge can chime in and make more sense of my gibberish.

I kinda took from the legendary questline that the end of azeroth is a sure thing at this point so we'd need to stop them from ever coming to prevent them from destroying everything in the present. If all else fails I'm sure it has a moon with snakes on it we can fuck around on.

Demons (specifically Kil'jaeden) found the Draenei and basically lied to the orcs, saying that the draenei were planning to kill the ever-loving shit out of all of the orcs unless they got their self-defence in first. Oh, and if they swilled down this glowing green fruit punch (demon blood) they're be all hulked out which would make taking care of the Draenei problem a lot easier.

lanludar · Nov 4, 2013

GonzytheMage_sl said:
Yeah that was more of my point Warlords could be all the clan leaders and we are caught in the middle of stopping them from fucking everything up.

You do realize if the Horde stop the orcs from coming in the first place then most if not all of the horde wouldn't even exist. Why would they do that?

bixxby · Nov 4, 2013

lanludar_sl said:
You do realize if the Horde stop the orcs from coming in the first place then most if not all of the horde wouldn't even exist. Why would they do that?

Jaina becomes time traveling Hitler.

Heylel · Nov 4, 2013

Where are all these time travel rumors coming from?

Qhue · Nov 4, 2013

Mostly because Draenor no longer exists having been blown the fuck up... so the assumption is that any Warlords of Draenor would need to involve travel back in time to when the planet existed.

joz123 · Nov 4, 2013

I'm thinking it's more like the Warlords time-traveled to Azeroth from Draenor before it blew up and have been hiding out there the whole time. Maybe they get found out so they go back to where Draenor should be and its nothing now so they get a new hide-out on some massive rock in the twisted nether somewhere.

Qhue · Nov 4, 2013

Eh. Running afoul of the Norrath syndrome here in that how many more hidden/secluded areas can there be on the planet at this point? Hence the movement into the Twisting Nether or Time Travel or something similar makes more sense.

Dandai · Nov 5, 2013

We could be looking in the wrong direction on this whole time travel bit. It could be set in the future and a vengeful Grommash Hellscream, second of his name, trueborn son of Garrosh Hellscream, and heir to the True Horde, seeks to stop the siege of Orgrimmar from ever happening and starts fucking with the timeways via the true expansion threat: Sargeras/Kiljaeden allied with the Infinite Dragonflight. Then 7.0 Twisting Nether expansion.

Ya, it's reaching, but I don't think it's more of a stretch than any of the other theories on this page =p

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